People just assume that because it's in D2 it'll be in D3. Just sayin'
It's on items as a stat in some videos and pictures, recent and old. Nothing's been said about it, though.
My conclusion to all of this is ; there are way too many factors that make a game great. If you haven't played the game and are basing your opinions on pictures only, you will be missing a lot of what makes the game great. A still picture shows the graphics of the game and nothing more, gameplay, story, sfx will be out of the picture. I can compare this to a cake :
What do you need to make a great cake?
-Flour
-Salt
-Baking powder
-Eggs
-Water
-Lots of love and attention
alright, if you take out the salt, baking powder and eggs.... you'll end up with just flour and water... and love. While it may satisfy you for a few minutes, plain dough has it's backdraws. It tends to get tasteless pretty fast and can't keep up with my insatiable hunger for more Cakezz.
So now, how does this succulent cake apply to diablo 3 will you say? Beside the fact that it tastes looks and smells great, it proves that you can't pass judgement on a still picture as it misses most of the games core features and so it seems... tasteless. Making pictures/movies using 3D with a nice setting is easy. They've made countless movies using such techniques (Final Fantasy, Pixar movies, Dreamworks...), they all look great but they are not games. Making a movie is not equal to making a game and the same thing applies to pictures. I know some of you guys pointed that out (scybedragon for instance), but I just wanna add my grain of salt.
Also, on the same optic, photoshopped pictures. WTH is the problem with you guys? I've been using photoshop for 6 years now and I've also made textures for my 3D projects. Changing a picture and making a texture is not the same thing and it also doesn't look the same. What you are all doing is change a picture's lightning setting and nothing more. I'd like to see you change the actual character, in game, and make him look like that... it's hard as hell and it will always depend on the environment. In a dark setting he won't stand out, in a light setting he'll look like a shadow. A balance must be made here and it really takes time to do it. Also I find it funny how people change the pictures... a couple of ovelays, drop lightning and some painting. I can do that also :
Normal bland picture______________________Super cool pimped out picture .My vision of what a civic SHOULD look like
Seriously though, stop doing it and leave it be.
As for the other points, I think that every point has been discussed extensively for the past 2-3 years, I therefore have nothing else to add.
Finally, graphics are fine the way they are. Too much details and there isn't enough room for your imagination to fill up the blanks, not enough details and there is nothing more to see. Diablo 3 is right in the middle of all this and exactly where it should be. Whine, cry, kick all you want, diablo 3 is gonna remain as it is now and this is how it will be. It's inspired after WOW, FINE what isn't nowadays? It takes stuff from other successful games? So what, if it works why change it? The nature does it...look at the evolution of species and you'll know what I mean. SO if mother earth does it...why shouldn't her 4th son, Jay Wilson the 4th, do it also?
As a closing argument, oncology recapitulates phylogeny. Diablo 3 is the proud successor of diablo 1 and 2, it's an evolution in gaming. It takes from his 2 brothers to make a new unique entity capable of living on his own as a standalone title.
People just assume that because it's in D2 it'll be in D3. Just sayin'
It's on items as a stat in some videos and pictures, recent and old. Nothing's been said about it, though.
My conclusion to all of this is ; there are way too many factors that make a game great. If you haven't played the game and are basing your opinions on pictures only, you will be missing a lot of what makes the game great. A still picture shows the graphics of the game and nothing more, gameplay, story, sfx will be out of the picture. I can compare this to a cake :
What do you need to make a great cake?
-Flour
-Salt
-Baking powder
-Eggs
-Water
-Lots of love and attention
alright, if you take out the salt, baking powder and eggs.... you'll end up with just flour and water... and love. While it may satisfy you for a few minutes, plain dough has it's backdraws. It tends to get tasteless pretty fast and can't keep up with my insatiable hunger for more Cakezz.
So now, how does this succulent cake apply to diablo 3 will you say? Beside the fact that it tastes looks and smells great, it proves that you can't pass judgement on a still picture as it misses most of the games core features and so it seems... tasteless. Making pictures/movies using 3D with a nice setting is easy. They've made countless movies using such techniques (Final Fantasy, Pixar movies, Dreamworks...), they all look great but they are not games. Making a movie is not equal to making a game and the same thing applies to pictures. I know some of you guys pointed that out (scybedragon for instance), but I just wanna add my grain of salt.
Also, on the same optic, photoshopped pictures. WTH is the problem with you guys? I've been using photoshop for 6 years now and I've also made textures for my 3D projects. Changing a picture and making a texture is not the same thing and it also doesn't look the same. What you are all doing is change a picture's lightning setting and nothing more. I'd like to see you change the actual character, in game, and make him look like that... it's hard as hell and it will always depend on the environment. In a dark setting he won't stand out, in a light setting he'll look like a shadow. A balance must be made here and it really takes time to do it. Also I find it funny how people change the pictures... a couple of ovelays, drop lightning and some painting. I can do that also :
Normal bland picture______________________Super cool pimped out picture .My vision of what a civic SHOULD look like
Seriously though, stop doing it and leave it be.
As for the other points, I think that every point has been discussed extensively for the past 2-3 years, I therefore have nothing else to add.
Finally, graphics are fine the way they are. Too much details and there isn't enough room for your imagination to fill up the blanks, not enough details and there is nothing more to see. Diablo 3 is right in the middle of all this and exactly where it should be. Whine, cry, kick all you want, diablo 3 is gonna remain as it is now and this is how it will be. It's inspired after WOW, FINE what isn't nowadays? It takes stuff from other successful games? So what, if it works why change it? The nature does it...look at the evolution of species and you'll know what I mean. SO if mother earth does it...why shouldn't her 4th son, Jay Wilson the 4th, do it also?
As a closing argument, oncology recapitulates phylogeny. Diablo 3 is the proud successor of diablo 1 and 2, it's an evolution in gaming. It takes from his 2 brothers to make a new unique entity capable of living on his own as a standalone title.
And soon, IT shall be born.
+1
Only because you +1'd a ridiculous post...
1. I'm basing all information and points that I'm making based on all information they have so far released. I can't speculate any more than that on what I don't have and what I do have. I never said the game would be bad, merely what others have voiced and what I have voiced as concern from what we have seen so far. Again I'll say, if no one voiced any concerns on the information they have released some things wouldn't have been changed. Refer to my points that I already made.
2. I am not basing what I have seen on pictures only. There are several gameplay trailers that show the game in action and blizzcon demo footage as well.
3. As for your cake reference I'm not even going there because I find it absolutely ridiculous and based on the fact that I find it absolutely ridiculous I cannot even acknowledge it to be honest.
4. There is nothing wrong with this photoshopped picture. It looks amazing. As for your lighting references. It isn't just the "lightning" or "lighting" not sure if you are miss typing there. But what simply looks better. As for shadows and lighting itself, I see no relevance to that at all. It's a game, they can create an infinite light radius or a smaller one or base shadows off of certain static and//or moving light elements in the game or create specific dark areas. I really don't see what you are trying to say at all. The photoshopped picture was merely what I myself had imagined D3 to look like. Not the stylized style, not even a realistic style, just what looked overall better. I had no reference to lighting at all. "glowing effects" and "lighting" are two different things. They already said there was no light radius I believe. So "lighting" isn't even relevant, it's just what you think looks better in the end and what I had PERSONALLY envisioned Diablo 3 to look like. I did not even create this image. I found it and when I saw it my jaw dropped on how amazing it looked. I wish I could say the same about diablo 3's visuals that I have seen so far but I haven't seen anything that has made my jaw drop.
5. Everyone knows Diablo 3 is the successor of diablo 1 and 2. It wouldn't be called diablo 3 if it wasn't.
6. Your car reference, I see no point to it at all. And it really looks like a bad troll attempt.
7. As for the guy who quoted this post, why would you quote such a ridiculous post that doesn't even bring 1 real argument to the table and seems more like a vulgar angry women's outcry and/or troll attempt for very real concerns about what they have showed us this far and does not even give one good point. I do not know. It seemed completely illogical to me. I'm still in awe that you quoted and +1'd it. But too each his own.
4. There is nothing wrong with this photoshopped picture. It looks amazing. As for your lighting references. It isn't just the "lightning" or "lighting" not sure if you are miss typing there. But what simply looks better. As for shadows and lighting itself, I see no relevance to that at all. It's a game, they can create an infinite light radius or a smaller one or base shadows off of certain static and//or moving light elements in the game or create specific dark areas. I really don't see what you are trying to say at all. The photoshopped picture was merely what I myself had imagined D3 to look like. Not the stylized style, not even a realistic style, just what looked overall better. I had no reference to lighting at all. "glowing effects" and "lighting" are two different things. They already said there was no light radius I believe. So "lighting" isn't even relevant, it's just what you think looks better in the end and what I had PERSONALLY envisioned Diablo 3 to look like. I did not even create this image. I found it and when I saw it my jaw dropped on how amazing it looked. I wish I could say the same about diablo 3's visuals that I have seen so far but I haven't seen anything that has made my jaw drop.
Blizzard already said that Light Radius wont be on everywhere, but in special places only. And lighting isnt light radius, its about how the light used in the game (you need light to see around you, its not just the light radius) in comparison to your gear changes the way you and the environment looks. that was the point overall. Everyone can make it darker after all, just adjust your monitor settings accordingly
5. Everyone knows Diablo 3 is the successor of diablo 1 and 2. It wouldn't be called diablo 3 if it wasn't.
then why do people cry about the way it evolves from the first 2 games to what it is now? (rhetorical question, no need to reply to that)
People expect it to be "just like" Diablo 2. It isnt and "some" are frustrated. The normal people that just watch the development and like evolution are slowly getting annoyed by it (yes, since the announcement we keep hearing the same arguements, its boring).
6. Your car reference, I see no point to it at all. And it really looks like a bad troll attempt.
irony is fun, i liked the horny civic.
P.S. they said they removed the light radius for performance reasons and to make the game's environments more important overall. there will be dungeons where light radius is used to make sure there's a creepier/darker feeling, but its not for everywhere.
1. I'm basing all information and points that I'm making based on all information they have so far released
So is most of the opposition to your points. We're basing our arguments on what Blizzard's told us, what we've seen so far, and our own opinions, no different from you. The difference is we're actually citing a credible source. A game company. We're not just finding or making random photoshopped pictures.
2. I am not basing what I have seen on pictures only. There are several gameplay trailers that show the game in action and blizzcon demo footage as well.
I can't say that any of the recent videos show much of any of your complaints, but maybe I missed some of yours.
3. As for your cake reference I'm not even going there because I find it absolutely ridiculous and based on the fact that I find it absolutely ridiculous I cannot even acknowledge it to be honest.
I think you only find it ridiculous because, in simple and very approachable terms, it highlights the fundamental problem with fighting the style and graphics of a game with a photoshopped image of the game. The two are completely incomparable. It's like trying to disprove the artistry of a movie or a drama performance with a picture. They're different art forms, and photoshopping an image just takes about ten minutes of clipping, desaturating, and pasting.
4. There is nothing wrong with this photoshopped picture. It looks amazing.
The inherent problem here is that, as has been said countless times and is continually ignored, we've seen barely two acts of the game, and only the overworld for most of it: a world coming out of an era of peace and prosperity. An era where everything isn't burned to the ground, where every castle wasn't made into a labyrinth of ghosts and demons, and where the populace was not raped, skinned, and stuck on wooden stakes. Of the dungeons we have seen: 1) the demo from the WWI, which was the first dungeon they finished and was only done for the announcement (will not be in the game), 2) the old Tristram cathedral dungeons, which look awesome, are filled with eerie light, darkness, the Undead, and ruin, and 3) the desert tombs, which were a bit brighter, but still looked both awesome and unique. I think the argument could best combat the last dungeon there, but that's it.
I can understand your confusion and opinion, but it simply is not applicable yet. Once we get through the story, then yes, I'll take your argument more seriously, specifically regarding lighting and artistic style. So far, I see no concern for light radius. It's superfluous in the overworld and, I believe, was confirmed for dungeons.
5. Everyone knows Diablo 3 is the successor of diablo 1 and 2. It wouldn't be called diablo 3 if it wasn't.
No, it's the successor of Diablo II. Diablo II and Diablo I are completely different in geographic scope, style, and gameplay.
6. Your car reference, I see no point to it at all. And it really looks like a bad troll attempt.
It makes a very good point without wasting precious minutes of my time to read through six paragraphs of text.
7. As for the guy who quoted this post, why would you quote such a ridiculous post that doesn't even bring 1 real argument to the table and seems more like a vulgar angry women's outcry and/or troll attempt for very real concerns about what they have showed us this far and does not even give one good point. I do not know. It seemed completely illogical to me. I'm still in awe that you quoted and +1'd it. But too each his own.
Actually, based on your attitude, how you refer to his argument, and how that poster did not call your arguments ridiculous, vulgar, or trolling, I would say you're the troll here. And I am Magistrate. Please remember that.
1. I'm basing all information and points that I'm making based on all information they have so far released
So is most of the opposition to your points. We're basing our arguments on what Blizzard's told us, what we've seen so far, and our own opinions, no different from you. The difference is we're actually citing a credible source. A game company. We're not just finding or making random photoshopped pictures.
2. I am not basing what I have seen on pictures only. There are several gameplay trailers that show the game in action and blizzcon demo footage as well.
I can't say that any of the recent videos show much of any of your complaints, but maybe I missed some of yours.
3. As for your cake reference I'm not even going there because I find it absolutely ridiculous and based on the fact that I find it absolutely ridiculous I cannot even acknowledge it to be honest.
I think you only find it ridiculous because, in simple and very approachable terms, it highlights the fundamental problem with fighting the style and graphics of a game with a photoshopped image of the game. The two are completely incomparable. It's like trying to disprove the artistry of a movie or a drama performance with a picture. They're different art forms, and photoshopping an image just takes about ten minutes of clipping, desaturating, and pasting.
4. There is nothing wrong with this photoshopped picture. It looks amazing.
The inherent problem here is that, as has been said countless times and is continually ignored, we've seen barely two acts of the game, and only the overworld for most of it: a world coming out of an era of peace and prosperity. An era where everything isn't burned to the ground, where every castle wasn't made into a labyrinth of ghosts and demons, and where the populace was not raped, skinned, and stuck on wooden stakes. Of the dungeons we have seen: 1) the demo from the WWI, which was the first dungeon they finished and was only done for the announcement (will not be in the game), 2) the old Tristram cathedral dungeons, which look awesome, are filled with eerie light, darkness, the Undead, and ruin, and 3) the desert tombs, which were a bit brighter, but still looked both awesome and unique. I think the argument could best combat the last dungeon there, but that's it.
I can understand your confusion and opinion, but it simply is not applicable yet. Once we get through the story, then yes, I'll take your argument more seriously, specifically regarding lighting and artistic style. So far, I see no concern for light radius. It's superfluous in the overworld and, I believe, was confirmed for dungeons.
5. Everyone knows Diablo 3 is the successor of diablo 1 and 2. It wouldn't be called diablo 3 if it wasn't.
No, it's the successor of Diablo II. Diablo II and Diablo I are completely different in geographic scope, style, and gameplay.
6. Your car reference, I see no point to it at all. And it really looks like a bad troll attempt.
It makes a very good point without wasting precious minutes of my time to read through six paragraphs of text.
7. As for the guy who quoted this post, why would you quote such a ridiculous post that doesn't even bring 1 real argument to the table and seems more like a vulgar angry women's outcry and/or troll attempt for very real concerns about what they have showed us this far and does not even give one good point. I do not know. It seemed completely illogical to me. I'm still in awe that you quoted and +1'd it. But too each his own.
Actually, based on your attitude, how you refer to his argument, and how that poster did not call your arguments ridiculous, vulgar, or trolling, I would say you're the troll here. And I am Magistrate. Please remember that.
I find your attempt to insult my intelligence lacking in effort and I find you hilarious to take the other poster seriously. You can't make good arguments and points so you quote cake and cars and will go down any road to try and make some kind of insane point but its hitting a brick wall and we both know that.
I don't care if you are bashiok, magistrate, the pope, news reporter or god himself. I have some dignity to know when I'm being trolled upon. I suggest closing the thread if you think I am trolling. I honestly thought YOU were the troll with a (+1) on one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever seen lol. Either way I suggest you stop quoting ridiculous points and outrageous references that make zero sense. It gets under my skin. Then again you are the magistrate so I guess you will do what you want, just don't expect me to sit there and take it.
If you have this many concerns about the game, then why do you even bother coming to read about it? If I saw a game where I said "Oh, I don't like the art style. I don't like the mechanics. Nothing is original. This game just isn't very good.", then I probably wouldn't continue to come to a website and read about the game.
You can come in and post "Why didn't they do this or make it look like this!" all that you want... In the end, that isn't going to change anything about the game, because most of it is already done.
To me you kind of come off as just trying to provoke because you are saying you don't like the direction they are taking with the game, yet you come and discuss it when it isn't even out yet. If you don't think it's going to be good, then stop paying attention to the game and don't buy it.
I can list a few things I am concerned about, I think everyone has their concerns... But if I could make a massive list of things I thought sucked or made me worried about the game... Then I probably wouldn't follow the game or purchase it when it came out.
And to PvP. First, Blizz knows that most people who will play the game (maybe not most people who frequent forums about it, though) don't like the way PvP worked. If you liked joining someone elses game and forcing them to play to your idea, especially if they are lower level, you're a jackass and I don't care how much you dislike the Blizz won't let you grief in D3. Please, don't buy it.
I never picked on people that were lower levels. Generally they were lvl 60-99. A lot of people did pick on low level chars though, which isnt surprising.
Also, when I was a HC player, I never PKed a single person or started any type of trouble that would lead to that. Getting killed in SC meant you lost some gold. Getting killed in HC meant you lost all of your progress. I've only died twice in HC with high level chars. Both were due to people using hacks and exploits to kill me.
I guess the "hunt" ~ for whoever, is over in the diablo world. oh well!
Gheed is a troll. Blizzard aren't trying to de-emphasize multiplayer or leveling, they are taking a new approach. Please don't listen to that big fat troll. Ban him, if possible.
I think shell is always respectful and comes up with solid arguments. Magistrate's post looks like a big ego masturbation. And scyberdragon you seem to skip all arguments without getting the particular point and keep saying same shit over and over again. I have never said that dungeons should be completely dark, I was just saying that it shouldn't look like a lame horror theme park for kids with colorful shiny green lights everywhere, because thats exactly how it looks. I've said it before but unless Blizzard changes their style, you will never agree, because you don't have the intelligence to set your own standarts, you would consume whatever ugly big greasy idea they would force down your brain with your so-called 'free mind'.
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Diablo hates Jay Wilson.
Diablo thanks God for creating obesity and ugliness.
Gheed is a troll. Blizzard aren't trying to de-emphasize multiplayer or leveling, they are taking a new approach. Please don't listen to that big fat troll. Ban him, if possible.
I think shell is always respectful and comes up with solid arguments. Magistrate's post looks like a big ego masturbation. And scyberdragon you seem to skip all arguments without getting the particular point and keep saying same shit over and over again. I have never said that dungeons should be completely dark, I was just saying that it shouldn't look like a lame horror theme park for kids with colorful shiny green lights everywhere, because thats exactly how it looks. I've said it before but unless Blizzard changes their style, you will never agree, because you don't have the intelligence to set your own standarts, you would consume whatever ugly big greasy idea they would force down your brain with your so-called 'free mind'.
Why the triangle? You would do much better if keep your fantasy for your imaginery boyfriend, you know, coz I'm a heterosexual male. Keep trying though, there might be many around here that would like it.
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Diablo hates Jay Wilson.
Diablo thanks God for creating obesity and ugliness.
Get real, folks, the diablo you all knew is dead, a few years ago i said right here in this forum that D3 had a pretty good chance of being blizzard first bust (i was flamed to death ofc), and what you know, its not even beta and its already looking that way.
Shelledfade, see my PM. As for this thread, because of the obvious immaturity that now and has taken it, it will now be closed. My condolences to everyone who made good attempts at logical, mature, and constructive discussion.
It's on items as a stat in some videos and pictures, recent and old. Nothing's been said about it, though.
+1
Only because you +1'd a ridiculous post...
1. I'm basing all information and points that I'm making based on all information they have so far released. I can't speculate any more than that on what I don't have and what I do have. I never said the game would be bad, merely what others have voiced and what I have voiced as concern from what we have seen so far. Again I'll say, if no one voiced any concerns on the information they have released some things wouldn't have been changed. Refer to my points that I already made.
2. I am not basing what I have seen on pictures only. There are several gameplay trailers that show the game in action and blizzcon demo footage as well.
3. As for your cake reference I'm not even going there because I find it absolutely ridiculous and based on the fact that I find it absolutely ridiculous I cannot even acknowledge it to be honest.
4. There is nothing wrong with this photoshopped picture. It looks amazing. As for your lighting references. It isn't just the "lightning" or "lighting" not sure if you are miss typing there. But what simply looks better. As for shadows and lighting itself, I see no relevance to that at all. It's a game, they can create an infinite light radius or a smaller one or base shadows off of certain static and//or moving light elements in the game or create specific dark areas. I really don't see what you are trying to say at all. The photoshopped picture was merely what I myself had imagined D3 to look like. Not the stylized style, not even a realistic style, just what looked overall better. I had no reference to lighting at all. "glowing effects" and "lighting" are two different things. They already said there was no light radius I believe. So "lighting" isn't even relevant, it's just what you think looks better in the end and what I had PERSONALLY envisioned Diablo 3 to look like. I did not even create this image. I found it and when I saw it my jaw dropped on how amazing it looked. I wish I could say the same about diablo 3's visuals that I have seen so far but I haven't seen anything that has made my jaw drop.
5. Everyone knows Diablo 3 is the successor of diablo 1 and 2. It wouldn't be called diablo 3 if it wasn't.
6. Your car reference, I see no point to it at all. And it really looks like a bad troll attempt.
7. As for the guy who quoted this post, why would you quote such a ridiculous post that doesn't even bring 1 real argument to the table and seems more like a vulgar angry women's outcry and/or troll attempt for very real concerns about what they have showed us this far and does not even give one good point. I do not know. It seemed completely illogical to me. I'm still in awe that you quoted and +1'd it. But too each his own.
Blizzard already said that Light Radius wont be on everywhere, but in special places only. And lighting isnt light radius, its about how the light used in the game (you need light to see around you, its not just the light radius) in comparison to your gear changes the way you and the environment looks. that was the point overall. Everyone can make it darker after all, just adjust your monitor settings accordingly
then why do people cry about the way it evolves from the first 2 games to what it is now? (rhetorical question, no need to reply to that)
People expect it to be "just like" Diablo 2. It isnt and "some" are frustrated. The normal people that just watch the development and like evolution are slowly getting annoyed by it (yes, since the announcement we keep hearing the same arguements, its boring).
irony is fun, i liked the horny civic.
P.S. they said they removed the light radius for performance reasons and to make the game's environments more important overall. there will be dungeons where light radius is used to make sure there's a creepier/darker feeling, but its not for everywhere.
The irony is palpable.
So is most of the opposition to your points. We're basing our arguments on what Blizzard's told us, what we've seen so far, and our own opinions, no different from you. The difference is we're actually citing a credible source. A game company. We're not just finding or making random photoshopped pictures.
I can't say that any of the recent videos show much of any of your complaints, but maybe I missed some of yours.
I think you only find it ridiculous because, in simple and very approachable terms, it highlights the fundamental problem with fighting the style and graphics of a game with a photoshopped image of the game. The two are completely incomparable. It's like trying to disprove the artistry of a movie or a drama performance with a picture. They're different art forms, and photoshopping an image just takes about ten minutes of clipping, desaturating, and pasting.
The inherent problem here is that, as has been said countless times and is continually ignored, we've seen barely two acts of the game, and only the overworld for most of it: a world coming out of an era of peace and prosperity. An era where everything isn't burned to the ground, where every castle wasn't made into a labyrinth of ghosts and demons, and where the populace was not raped, skinned, and stuck on wooden stakes. Of the dungeons we have seen: 1) the demo from the WWI, which was the first dungeon they finished and was only done for the announcement (will not be in the game), 2) the old Tristram cathedral dungeons, which look awesome, are filled with eerie light, darkness, the Undead, and ruin, and 3) the desert tombs, which were a bit brighter, but still looked both awesome and unique. I think the argument could best combat the last dungeon there, but that's it.
I can understand your confusion and opinion, but it simply is not applicable yet. Once we get through the story, then yes, I'll take your argument more seriously, specifically regarding lighting and artistic style. So far, I see no concern for light radius. It's superfluous in the overworld and, I believe, was confirmed for dungeons.
No, it's the successor of Diablo II. Diablo II and Diablo I are completely different in geographic scope, style, and gameplay.
It makes a very good point without wasting precious minutes of my time to read through six paragraphs of text.
Actually, based on your attitude, how you refer to his argument, and how that poster did not call your arguments ridiculous, vulgar, or trolling, I would say you're the troll here. And I am Magistrate. Please remember that.
Sigh...
All I saw was invalid arguments, some that have even been answered, and a bunch of personal opinions based on your objective taste.
corrected
I don't care if you are bashiok, magistrate, the pope, news reporter or god himself. I have some dignity to know when I'm being trolled upon. I suggest closing the thread if you think I am trolling. I honestly thought YOU were the troll with a (+1) on one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever seen lol. Either way I suggest you stop quoting ridiculous points and outrageous references that make zero sense. It gets under my skin. Then again you are the magistrate so I guess you will do what you want, just don't expect me to sit there and take it.
If you have this many concerns about the game, then why do you even bother coming to read about it? If I saw a game where I said "Oh, I don't like the art style. I don't like the mechanics. Nothing is original. This game just isn't very good.", then I probably wouldn't continue to come to a website and read about the game.
You can come in and post "Why didn't they do this or make it look like this!" all that you want... In the end, that isn't going to change anything about the game, because most of it is already done.
To me you kind of come off as just trying to provoke because you are saying you don't like the direction they are taking with the game, yet you come and discuss it when it isn't even out yet. If you don't think it's going to be good, then stop paying attention to the game and don't buy it.
I can list a few things I am concerned about, I think everyone has their concerns... But if I could make a massive list of things I thought sucked or made me worried about the game... Then I probably wouldn't follow the game or purchase it when it came out.
Also, when I was a HC player, I never PKed a single person or started any type of trouble that would lead to that. Getting killed in SC meant you lost some gold. Getting killed in HC meant you lost all of your progress. I've only died twice in HC with high level chars. Both were due to people using hacks and exploits to kill me.
I guess the "hunt" ~ for whoever, is over in the diablo world. oh well!
I think shell is always respectful and comes up with solid arguments. Magistrate's post looks like a big ego masturbation. And scyberdragon you seem to skip all arguments without getting the particular point and keep saying same shit over and over again. I have never said that dungeons should be completely dark, I was just saying that it shouldn't look like a lame horror theme park for kids with colorful shiny green lights everywhere, because thats exactly how it looks. I've said it before but unless Blizzard changes their style, you will never agree, because you don't have the intelligence to set your own standarts, you would consume whatever ugly big greasy idea they would force down your brain with your so-called 'free mind'.
Diablo thanks God for creating obesity and ugliness.
Diablo thanks God for creating obesity and ugliness.
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