-seigebreaker now has reflect? there goes the best farming spot....
-being a DH nether tentacles now only hits a target once?? they do this but dont fix the sharpshooter bug????
-they fix the IAS problem on new legendarys, but all those ashearas locks are still broken??
-the obvious IAS nerf
-shooting jars etc, dont give hardly anything anymore?? whats the point of having them in game?
-increased repairs
i dont know how the other class charges are, as i only play a DH.
-the only positives i see is the drop rates and the reduced costs for crafting...
-lowering the damage of the monsters in inferno is cancelled out by all the dps nerfs
anyone else feel this way??
SS has bugs but it doesnt actually affect it in any actual way but a slight inconvenience
Nether was too strong. and it was a bug, not a nerf
If you can still do siegebreaker, reflect doesnt make it impossible... if you can do champions with reflect and 3 other affixes, you can do siegebreaker.
Breakable objects are for environment interaction more than to be treasure chests.
There was no real changes to any class, just tooltip updates to what they actually do or damage type changes and bug fixes.
This patch is really great, but of course, allthe d3 whiners are gonna hate.
Because D2 is crap and outdated. Comparing those 2 games is like comparing Madden '97 to Madden '12.
Bad comparison as they improved the Madden games through-out the year through many various changes by learning from previous versions. Something Blizz failed to do here. Also I would play Madden 97 if say one of favorite old schools players/teams were in it that arent in the newer versions. Tell me what is better gameplay/feature-wise.
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In all due honesty - You can keep your opinion. No-one is actually flaming you for holding an opinion. People are flaming you for going out of your way to technically go to their favorite less-then-good-bar , where they relax and do w/e - to come in - scream that every single one is a sodding drunk who should stop being there - because you think bars should have "standards".
I never told anyone they shouldn't be playing Diablo 3. And surprise, some people do have standards, especially ones that don't seem too unreasonable. The fact that you think you go into the game and do whatever you want is laughable at best. I think you meant that you go into the game and play it the way Blizz wants you to play it.
The only people crying are the nubs who were rolling broken DH builds.
This patch is GREAT.
Better loot tables, direct hit to botters, harder bosses (with unique Inferno stuffs), cheaper BS/Gemcraft, and NERFED DAMAGE IN INFERNO.
All of these things are GREAT.
If your entire build is 100% reliant on IAS, your terribad.
The patch is great huh? Sugar-coating a piece of turd still makes it a piece of turd. It's sad people get so excited about patches when they totally forget that this game should not have been this broken to begin with. Sure I can forgive oversights here and there but this is the first time I have played a Blizz game that felt more broken than polished. This is 2012, not Diablo 2, which mind you came out ages ago. And don't even try to defend Blizz cause they had/still have the resources, time and blueprints from previous games to make this game awesome.
Better loot tables to get better items for what? No PvP, No end-game.
Harder bosses? Are you using the same logic as Jay Wilson? Let's use a lazy cop-out and use math to make something more challenging? Every difficulty mode the bosses do the same things pretty much?
Cheaper crafting for BS/JC? Are you still forgetting that those are the ONLY min/max options we have end-game...two freaking professions? That's it?! Soooo much end-game to be had~~~
Nerfed damage in Inferno to streamline the game more than it already is? Nerfed IAS to streamline even further. There should be the "ultimate" items that we should be farming for....or what's the point in all items being similiar? Why don't they just nerf all resist since it's something "everyone was going for" to progress in Inferno past Act 2....it seems like they are eliminating all possible "goals" for achieving anything in this game...
"No end game"
More then D2 ever had.
"No PvP"
Fair enough, but its coming, and will be more then a singular feature "hostile".
And lol, according to YOUR OWN LOGIC, then Diablo 1 and 2 were terrible games?
And yeah, everyone going for the exact same item is totally an awesome and not boring idea.
lol.
If you hate the game so much, find something else to do with your life, I hear there are plenty of other games you can play.
i love how ppl always use the "if you dont like it then don't play it deal." Yes that may be true, but it's not that simple. The fact that a consumer, you, has such low expectations from a gaming company that prides itself on the quality of their games is pretty indicative of how low your standards are. If you can honestly say you think this is a quality game for the year that we live in, you are delusional.
Forgive me for expressing an opinion I feel I have a right to, not only as a consumer but a long time Blizz gamer.
You can also use D1 and D2 all you want, it came out years and years ago. They had plenty of time to learn from their mistakes and improvements through the 100s of patches that D2 saw. Welcome to the 21st century. With that said, you would expect D3 to be at least on par if not better that it's predecessor. So tell me why one should play D3 over D2:LoD?
BS
I happen to LIKE D3.
I dont have "low standards"
I openly challenge you to find me a better ARPG game released in the last 5 years. Cant find one? Hmmmmmmmm, guess that aint to "low" on the list.
The combat in D3 is better, the visuals are better, the boss fights are better, the skills system is better, etc, etc, etc.
Just because YOU dont like the way D3 has gone, does NOT make you any kind of authority on the quality of the game, I personally LIKE it.
I could go out and make blanket generalizations just like you;
"Only people with completely unrealistic expectations are dissapointed by D3"
The simple fact of the matter is this, the game has been out over a month, you either like it, or you dont, find something productive to do with your life.
This patch is really great, but of course, allthe d3 whiners are gonna hate.
where are your supporting facts?? all you people have something to say about mine and others negative opinions, but dont support your own? all you say is "this patch is great"....youd be all over my S^*t if all i said was "this patch is terrible" other than for the melee classes who will take less damage, (now they can stop crying) how is this patch good for the game?
If you can honestly say you think this is a quality game for the year that we live in, you are delusional.
Forgive me for expressing an opinion I feel I have a right to, not only as a consumer but a long time Blizz gamer.
Am I the only one who finds those two sentences back to back amazingly hypocritical? In one sentence you generalize all people who disagree with you by saying if you like D3 you are "delusional" and in the second sentence you attempt to garner sympathy for your opinion by being insincerely apologetic about your opinion. You aren't sorry you think the game is crap. If you are genuinely sorry about anything it's that people don't mindlessly pander to your specific point of view. You don't like something while other people do. Except your opinion is "right" and deserves to be heard while anyone who disagrees is "delusional" Well played, Troll. Well played.
I held incredibly high hopes for this patch and now find myself immensely disappointed. As a monk, I lost 11k dps, going from 46k to 35k, I have Wizard friends who lost nearly 30k dps, and many of my Dhunt friends lost 20-30k dps.
Nerfing enemy damage then making us attack them with severely reduced stats isn't fun. Its just tedious.
Also, with the nerf of magic find on environments, we have completely lost the ability to chest run or swap gear if we feel the need to.
Blizzard stated it wanted to encourage variety in farming, and now it has made it so that the only viable way once more, is to kill champion/elite and bosses with, once again, severely reduced stats.
Honestly, yes, this patch is pretty terrible. The game hasn't been super fun the last few days and this might just be the nail in the coffin for me. I can't believe they didn't fix the legendary/set items that have had broken IAS for forever.
Except they did fix those... It's in the notes under Items > Bug Fixes:
Legendary items with the +Attack Speed bonus will now correctly provide a bonus to attack speed
Please note that this fix will only affect new Legendary drops. Existing Legendary items will be addressed in future patch.
But hey, good work on the reading.
OT: Overall this patch seems fine to me. Rebalancing Inferno in-line with their design goal, instead of the near-insurmountable brick wall that it was, is a good change (sorry to all the elisits who feel that it is their entitled playground that nobody else can come in to... we paid the same for the game, our luck with gear has just been worse).
They fixed NEW items, not the ones we have already. Good work on the reading.
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The question isn't why do I kill. The question is, why I don't kill everybody.
If you can honestly say you think this is a quality game for the year that we live in, you are delusional.
Forgive me for expressing an opinion I feel I have a right to, not only as a consumer but a long time Blizz gamer.
Am I the only one who finds those two sentences back to back amazingly hypocritical? In one sentence you generalize all people who disagree with you by saying if you like D3 you are "delusional" and in the second sentence you attempt to garner sympathy for your opinion by being insincerely apologetic about your opinion. You aren't sorry you think the game is crap. If you are genuinely sorry about anything it's that people don't mindlessly pander to your specific point of view. You don't like something while other people do. Except your opinion is "right" and deserves to be heard while anyone who disagrees is "delusional" Well played, Troll. Well played.
I didn't state that if you liked the game you are delusional. I said if you think this is a quality game, considering Blizz track record, the time they had for development, the resources in man-power, $$ and blueprints from other successful games, then you are delusional. Hope that clarifies.
Also, if you understand that it's a personal opinion there is no need to get so bent out of shape.
I openly challenge you to find me a better ARPG game released in the last 5 years. Cant find one? Hmmmmmmmm, guess that aint to "low" on the list.
The combat in D3 is better, the visuals are better, the boss fights are better, the skills system is better, etc, etc, etc.
Just because YOU dont like the way D3 has gone, does NOT make you any kind of authority on the quality of the game, I personally LIKE it.
I could go out and make blanket generalizations just like you;
"Only people with completely unrealistic expectations are dissapointed by D3"
The simple fact of the matter is this, the game has been out over a month, you either like it, or you dont, find something productive to do with your life.
Simple matter, people expected a game developed for 10 years. They got a game that was made in about 3 years and delayed till wow died. Hence it feels like the game is outdated. Now everyone got a old game that is massively sub-par by blizzard standards we got used to in all these years.
While the gameplay is "reasonable", there are plenty of posts explaining why it is far from what it was supposed to be.
Storyline is A JOKE, you can read this post http://us.battle.net...opic/5836595552
Also the game feels like a lot of the neat features that were in the early beta/promo videos were cut/removed.
And while yes, experience will vary on your expectations and even what class you play at what difficulty. For example it is a lot more "fun" to kill everything and progress through inferno. Rather than hitting a brick wall and having to farm for a week just to buy gear to advance further. Some classes need to do that, others don't.
So balance is out of the window too.
This game is enjoyable, but nowhere near as good as it could have been if the right people worked at it.
And to find another game, like you said, you are not interested in a game with better combat or loot or skills etc.
You are interested in a game called diablo - just better.
There are plenty of games with better combat system, better visuals, better concept, better storyline.
None of them is Diablo.
Want amazing boss fights:
Want amazing concept of perma-death mmo-rpg game?
realm of the mad god
want an amazing skill system that is actually 10 times as customizable as diablo promised it would be
path of exile has that.
Those are just the latest games I was exposed to. I can name a lot more to every category.
Thank you...you worded it much better than myself. And I am glad i am not the only person that feels this way. +1
Anyway...i will ask a real question to everywhere, the qq'ers, the fanboys, and the neutral-guys.
The whole point in the Diablo 3 franchise was doing certain builds work under certain conditions...(Infinity sorc come to mind in d2).....why they didn't make the other stats more appealing rather than nerfing ias to the ground ?. I don't want to "Balance" everything in my character, i want to make the build i want. Be it 50%+ crit, 500%+ crit dmg, insane IAS, etc. Why i can't have my little sandbox of stats to play with ?
FFS
IAS is still REALLY, REALLY GOOD.
its like you guys cannot think at all.
Again, IAS is STILL A REALLY GOOD STAT.
Just not a completely broken must have.
.
it's still a must have for almost every class, especially for monks/barbs with life on hit which means their goal of IAS not being a mandatory stat failed right on its face.
If you can honestly say you think this is a quality game for the year that we live in, you are delusional.
Forgive me for expressing an opinion I feel I have a right to, not only as a consumer but a long time Blizz gamer.
Am I the only one who finds those two sentences back to back amazingly hypocritical? In one sentence you generalize all people who disagree with you by saying if you like D3 you are "delusional" and in the second sentence you attempt to garner sympathy for your opinion by being insincerely apologetic about your opinion. You aren't sorry you think the game is crap. If you are genuinely sorry about anything it's that people don't mindlessly pander to your specific point of view. You don't like something while other people do. Except your opinion is "right" and deserves to be heard while anyone who disagrees is "delusional" Well played, Troll. Well played.
I didn't state that if you liked the game you are delusional. I said if you think this is a quality game, considering Blizz track record, the time they had for development, the resources in man-power, $$ and blueprints from other successful games, then you are delusional. Hope that clarifies.
Also, if you understand that it's a personal opinion there is no need to get so bent out of shape.
Right, I do understand it's a matter of personal opinion. It certainly would not be considered factual for one person to say that they think a game is quality. So to clarify what you said, twice now, if a person has an opinion about the game other than what you believe, they are delusional.
Existing Legendary items will be addressed in future patch.
They fixed NEW items, not the ones we have already. Good work on the reading.
Which means i don't have any understanding of time.
Derp?
I take back the question mark, you're pretty thick. A "future patch" means nothing, that could be in 6 months. They said the bugged items would be fixed in this patch and they lied, nowhere did they say the fix wouldn't be retroactive until today. This issue could have been hotfixed weeks ago.
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The question isn't why do I kill. The question is, why I don't kill everybody.
I take back the question mark - I have no patience or understanding of time, so i will perpetually whine like a under-developed child screaming for ice cream until this matter is fixed!
Patience? Are you serious? I've been patient for a month, how much longer am I expected to be patient for? And you call me an underdeveloped child when you can't even make your own posts.
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The question isn't why do I kill. The question is, why I don't kill everybody.
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"The changes they made nerf my playstyle that I selected because it was overpowered and EZ-mode, therefore the changes suck."
As a barbarian, I am overwhelmingly looking forward to this patch. It couldn't come soon enough.
Yep. Delicious QQ.
SS has bugs but it doesnt actually affect it in any actual way but a slight inconvenience
Nether was too strong. and it was a bug, not a nerf
If you can still do siegebreaker, reflect doesnt make it impossible... if you can do champions with reflect and 3 other affixes, you can do siegebreaker.
Breakable objects are for environment interaction more than to be treasure chests.
There was no real changes to any class, just tooltip updates to what they actually do or damage type changes and bug fixes.
This patch is really great, but of course, allthe d3 whiners are gonna hate.
Bad comparison as they improved the Madden games through-out the year through many various changes by learning from previous versions. Something Blizz failed to do here. Also I would play Madden 97 if say one of favorite old schools players/teams were in it that arent in the newer versions. Tell me what is better gameplay/feature-wise.
I never told anyone they shouldn't be playing Diablo 3. And surprise, some people do have standards, especially ones that don't seem too unreasonable. The fact that you think you go into the game and do whatever you want is laughable at best. I think you meant that you go into the game and play it the way Blizz wants you to play it.
BS
I happen to LIKE D3.
I dont have "low standards"
I openly challenge you to find me a better ARPG game released in the last 5 years. Cant find one? Hmmmmmmmm, guess that aint to "low" on the list.
The combat in D3 is better, the visuals are better, the boss fights are better, the skills system is better, etc, etc, etc.
Just because YOU dont like the way D3 has gone, does NOT make you any kind of authority on the quality of the game, I personally LIKE it.
I could go out and make blanket generalizations just like you;
"Only people with completely unrealistic expectations are dissapointed by D3"
The simple fact of the matter is this, the game has been out over a month, you either like it, or you dont, find something productive to do with your life.
where are your supporting facts?? all you people have something to say about mine and others negative opinions, but dont support your own? all you say is "this patch is great"....youd be all over my S^*t if all i said was "this patch is terrible" other than for the melee classes who will take less damage, (now they can stop crying) how is this patch good for the game?
Am I the only one who finds those two sentences back to back amazingly hypocritical? In one sentence you generalize all people who disagree with you by saying if you like D3 you are "delusional" and in the second sentence you attempt to garner sympathy for your opinion by being insincerely apologetic about your opinion. You aren't sorry you think the game is crap. If you are genuinely sorry about anything it's that people don't mindlessly pander to your specific point of view. You don't like something while other people do. Except your opinion is "right" and deserves to be heard while anyone who disagrees is "delusional" Well played, Troll. Well played.
Nerfing enemy damage then making us attack them with severely reduced stats isn't fun. Its just tedious.
Also, with the nerf of magic find on environments, we have completely lost the ability to chest run or swap gear if we feel the need to.
Blizzard stated it wanted to encourage variety in farming, and now it has made it so that the only viable way once more, is to kill champion/elite and bosses with, once again, severely reduced stats.
50% was far too much.
They fixed NEW items, not the ones we have already. Good work on the reading.
Which means they didn't fix them.
Derp?
I didn't state that if you liked the game you are delusional. I said if you think this is a quality game, considering Blizz track record, the time they had for development, the resources in man-power, $$ and blueprints from other successful games, then you are delusional. Hope that clarifies.
Also, if you understand that it's a personal opinion there is no need to get so bent out of shape.
Thank you...you worded it much better than myself. And I am glad i am not the only person that feels this way. +1
Existing items are harder to fix than all those new ones?
They are aware, and we'll see THIS fixed before 1.1.
So glad I never had the money to buy a bunch of Attack Speed gear, and feel my DPS get smacked down.
^^^ Exactly this. Thank you sooooo much.
Right, I do understand it's a matter of personal opinion. It certainly would not be considered factual for one person to say that they think a game is quality. So to clarify what you said, twice now, if a person has an opinion about the game other than what you believe, they are delusional.
Got it. Thanks for clarifying kiddo
I take back the question mark, you're pretty thick. A "future patch" means nothing, that could be in 6 months. They said the bugged items would be fixed in this patch and they lied, nowhere did they say the fix wouldn't be retroactive until today. This issue could have been hotfixed weeks ago.
absolutely NOT cancelled out
mobs not having as much spike (i.e. constant one-shots) is NOTHING compared to taking longer to kill them
Patience? Are you serious? I've been patient for a month, how much longer am I expected to be patient for? And you call me an underdeveloped child when you can't even make your own posts.