With swapping only my weapon I already go over 400% with my templar and valor because I worked my arse off to get this gear that capable of farming end game content.
I sold all my high end DPS gear to put together this act 3/4 MF farming set and now your telling me that even with zero paragon level im about to lose MF?!?!?
I dont get how this stops gear swapping, i dont swap gear, i farm act 3 with 350+% MF because I worked my arse of for 500 hours in game and probably another 200 hours on the Auction house selling and trading gear.
So blizzard, damn....i actually wanna cry coz I invested so much of my time into making the perfect MF act 3/4 farming set and you go and ruin it as im already at the cap and gain nothing from your paragon system.
Solution: Remove the cap, let us go to 700% MF if we want to. Why stop your loyal/dedicated and possibly a little hardcore fans from playing the game at the 'level' that they want to?
ive spent over 250M on MF gear, and i don't care....
sell a couple pieces so you sit at 300MF with NV, and be happy.
you realize reaching 100 paragon is going to take months and months if not a year+, right?
your MF is going to be extremely useful on your way there, as you'll be getting phat lewt the guys without MF will not be receiving.
i know when i first read it i was slightly bummed, but it's really not a huge deal, trust me. it's still good that you have MF gear, i'm sure having it will more than pay for the cost of not having it on your way to 100 paragon.
and slowly as you level week by week you can sell off a piece. MF gear is far from useless, it may drop a smidge in value, but it won't drop much.
the sky is not falling old chap, don't worry about it.
I don't see why you'll have to swap out anything. Your gear is good enough as it is. Over time the MF that you've acquired will lose its power, but all your other stats on that gear are still very useful. You're in a perfect situation for having max MF from the very beginning and at the Paragon max you'll still have great gear.
You're not losing anything. The cap is 300% without NV. You have 282%. You won't start losing until you get to Paragon level 7. Then, you can start upgrading a piece at a time.
I'm not quite as high as you, but I'm in the same boat.
Since your mf gear is great wouldn't 250mil be easy to obtain for u? After all, you do farm act 3/4 so that shouldn't be a problem. I see people without mf gear farm about 100mil in a few hours, I think you'll be alright. xD
ive spent over 250M on MF gear, and i don't care....
sell a couple pieces so you sit at 300MF with NV, and be happy.
you realize reaching 100 paragon is going to take months and months if not a year+, right?
your MF is going to be extremely useful on your way there, as you'll be getting phat lewt the guys without MF will not be receiving.
i know when i first read it i was slightly bummed, but it's really not a huge deal, trust me. it's still good that you have MF gear, i'm sure having it will more than pay for the cost of not having it on your way to 100 paragon.
and slowly as you level week by week you can sell off a piece. MF gear is far from useless, it may drop a smidge in value, but it won't drop much.
the sky is not falling old chap, don't worry about it.
They said I wouldnt see inferno for months and I was in there by week 2 im pretty sure..Not to mention I legitimately leveled my witchdoctor from 1-60 in less than 24 hours with just +exp gear.
I guess all I can hope for is either they come to their sense and remove the cap off MF so players like me can go to 700% if they want to -or- just hope that paragon system really will take more than 1000 hours to reach max level, although I seriously doubt anything made by blizzard in 2012 would. Will be very happy to hear im wrong.
But still...
Already at the MF cap and havent even reached level 1 paragon....how is that fair.....it only rewards item swapping.
I plan to just swap in all my MF gear now, AutohotKey here I come /wrists /sarcasm
ive spent over 250M on MF gear, and i don't care....
sell a couple pieces so you sit at 300MF with NV, and be happy.
you realize reaching 100 paragon is going to take months and months if not a year+, right?
your MF is going to be extremely useful on your way there, as you'll be getting phat lewt the guys without MF will not be receiving.
i know when i first read it i was slightly bummed, but it's really not a huge deal, trust me. it's still good that you have MF gear, i'm sure having it will more than pay for the cost of not having it on your way to 100 paragon.
and slowly as you level week by week you can sell off a piece. MF gear is far from useless, it may drop a smidge in value, but it won't drop much.
the sky is not falling old chap, don't worry about it.
They said I wouldnt see inferno for months and I was in there by week 2 im pretty sure..
I guess all I can hope for is either they come to their sense and remove the cap off MF so players like me can go to 700% if they want to -or- just hope that paragon system really will take more than 1000 hours to reach max level, although I seriously doubt anything made by blizzard in 2012 would. Will be very happy to hear im wrong.
But still...
Already at the MF cap and havent even reached level 1 paragon....how is that fair.....it only rewards item swapping.
I plan to just swap in all my MF gear now, AutohotKey here I come /wrists /sarcasm
this is simple math, inferno was because of the difficulty.
you can't compare the two.
have you kill 8 million monsters so far? no?
ive killed like 500k monsters, 24,000 elites, which is a ton for most people. and i'd be like what level 8 paragon or some shit with that ? lol
Whats the harm in letting players like me try and obtain 700-800% MF if we want to earn & spend hundreds of millions on gear?
If there is no cap, some people will still swap gear... and blizz wants to stop that from happening. As a gamer who found swapping way too tedious to actually do, I feel they are wasting resouces on the wrong problems.
Whats the harm in letting players like me try and obtain 700-800% MF if we want to earn & spend hundreds of millions on gear?
You guys all get to keep your paragon system and we get to get a benefit from it too.
i think 700MF would be absolutely ridiculous
we all knew MF changes were coming for a LONG time, and we still invested in the MF gear, we took the risk.. and frankly the end result isn't that big of a deal, it could be a lot worse.
I don't see why you'll have to swap out anything. Your gear is good enough as it is. Over time the MF that you've acquired will lose its power, but all your other stats on that gear are still very useful. You're in a perfect situation for having max MF from the very beginning and at the Paragon max you'll still have great gear.
This ^
Also, You can sell that gear to me if you think it's going to be less useful after patch 1.0.4 awesome set you have there
I don't see why you'll have to swap out anything. Your gear is good enough as it is. Over time the MF that you've acquired will lose its power, but all your other stats on that gear are still very useful. You're in a perfect situation for having max MF from the very beginning and at the Paragon max you'll still have great gear.
This ^
Also, You can sell that gear to me if you think it's going to be less useful after patch 1.0.4 awesome set you have there
Hehe thanks, i suppose it just "enrages" me that they are rewarding gear swapping so highly.
I know warden doesnt detect autohotkey gear swapping as soooooo many of my friends do it and now my gear is rather useless if im happy to download a program to swap in max MF pieces.
And frankly I'd rather swap in 1mil of gear than keep my 250mil of gear =P
I guess I just thought the new MF system would be anti-swapping, not pro till max paragon.
All apologetics aside, i feel for the OP. I dont care if hes not at the cap yet or if hes got 6mos to worry about it. Its the long slow death of magic find as i see it. I played D2 for around 10 years, with the intent to play this game as long as possible, so yes, maybe its going to be a few months or a year before all MF is equal among top end game players, but thats like the first 1/10th of my future D3 carrer. So potentially the overwhelming majority of my D3 life will have been spent MF capped. Im not cool with that, sorry.
dont forget OP, white mobs are having their drop rates increased x4, which was already pretty high in the first place. big packs of whites are gonna be loot pinatas with high MF, can't gear swap for that.
dont forget OP, white mobs are having their drop rates increased x4, which was already pretty high in the first place. big packs of whites are gonna be loot pinatas with high MF, can't gear swap for that.
But a WW barb can get to the next elite faster than i can id and sell an item to a merchant.
My farm groups have no more than 60 seconds between elites in act 3 due to very high MS gear swapping barbs that we all TP onto when an elite is found.
It pulls in more rares per hour than anything at the moment(to the point we dont even bother rolling most loot or selling it to merchant as it takes away time, and there is basically no time between elites lol) but yea maybe trash might b worth it in 1.04, fingers crossed.
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With swapping only my weapon I already go over 400% with my templar and valor because I worked my arse off to get this gear that capable of farming end game content.
I sold all my high end DPS gear to put together this act 3/4 MF farming set and now your telling me that even with zero paragon level im about to lose MF?!?!?
I dont get how this stops gear swapping, i dont swap gear, i farm act 3 with 350+% MF because I worked my arse of for 500 hours in game and probably another 200 hours on the Auction house selling and trading gear.
So blizzard, damn....i actually wanna cry coz I invested so much of my time into making the perfect MF act 3/4 farming set and you go and ruin it as im already at the cap and gain nothing from your paragon system.
Solution: Remove the cap, let us go to 700% MF if we want to. Why stop your loyal/dedicated and possibly a little hardcore fans from playing the game at the 'level' that they want to?
sell a couple pieces so you sit at 300MF with NV, and be happy.
you realize reaching 100 paragon is going to take months and months if not a year+, right?
your MF is going to be extremely useful on your way there, as you'll be getting phat lewt the guys without MF will not be receiving.
i know when i first read it i was slightly bummed, but it's really not a huge deal, trust me. it's still good that you have MF gear, i'm sure having it will more than pay for the cost of not having it on your way to 100 paragon.
and slowly as you level week by week you can sell off a piece. MF gear is far from useless, it may drop a smidge in value, but it won't drop much.
the sky is not falling old chap, don't worry about it.
Ha. Bagstone.
I'm not quite as high as you, but I'm in the same boat.
The cap is 300 WITHOUT NV.
Even if you cap yourself at 300 with a few paragon levels you can stop swapping your weapon... then you can start stacking dps gear again after that.
All the while you're going to be getting the best possible drops, including new legendaries faster than literally anyone else.
Profit, profit, profit.
The sky isn't falling.
They said I wouldnt see inferno for months and I was in there by week 2 im pretty sure..Not to mention I legitimately leveled my witchdoctor from 1-60 in less than 24 hours with just +exp gear.
I guess all I can hope for is either they come to their sense and remove the cap off MF so players like me can go to 700% if they want to -or- just hope that paragon system really will take more than 1000 hours to reach max level, although I seriously doubt anything made by blizzard in 2012 would. Will be very happy to hear im wrong.
But still...
Already at the MF cap and havent even reached level 1 paragon....how is that fair.....it only rewards item swapping.
I plan to just swap in all my MF gear now, AutohotKey here I come /wrists /sarcasm
this is simple math, inferno was because of the difficulty.
you can't compare the two.
have you kill 8 million monsters so far? no?
ive killed like 500k monsters, 24,000 elites, which is a ton for most people. and i'd be like what level 8 paragon or some shit with that ? lol
Whats the harm in letting players like me try and obtain 700-800% MF if we want to earn & spend hundreds of millions on gear?
You guys all get to keep your paragon system and we get to get a benefit from it too.
If there is no cap, some people will still swap gear... and blizz wants to stop that from happening. As a gamer who found swapping way too tedious to actually do, I feel they are wasting resouces on the wrong problems.
i think 700MF would be absolutely ridiculous
we all knew MF changes were coming for a LONG time, and we still invested in the MF gear, we took the risk.. and frankly the end result isn't that big of a deal, it could be a lot worse.
Also, You can sell that gear to me if you think it's going to be less useful after patch 1.0.4 awesome set you have there
Hehe thanks, i suppose it just "enrages" me that they are rewarding gear swapping so highly.
I know warden doesnt detect autohotkey gear swapping as soooooo many of my friends do it and now my gear is rather useless if im happy to download a program to swap in max MF pieces.
And frankly I'd rather swap in 1mil of gear than keep my 250mil of gear =P
I guess I just thought the new MF system would be anti-swapping, not pro till max paragon.
Blizz made themselves very publically known over the last 2 months that they did not like the idea of gear swapping and wanted to change the system.
They then went on to ask us for our advice and their was a big discussion on it.
//read the main site more often buddy
But yea then they did a 360 and now promote it with a system that rewards swapping in bad max MF items untill ur at max paragon level.
current system was wrong and now they are fixing
But a WW barb can get to the next elite faster than i can id and sell an item to a merchant.
My farm groups have no more than 60 seconds between elites in act 3 due to very high MS gear swapping barbs that we all TP onto when an elite is found.
It pulls in more rares per hour than anything at the moment(to the point we dont even bother rolling most loot or selling it to merchant as it takes away time, and there is basically no time between elites lol) but yea maybe trash might b worth it in 1.04, fingers crossed.