I've played a wizard since release, but I recently decided that I wanted a change of pace and that I was going to switch over to my barb. I sold all my wizard's gear and now have around 400mil in the bank to upgrade. I want to spend it efficiently though, so I'm probably going to wait until after the patch when prices should come down. That said, I'm trying to plan out what I want to buy to upgrade the most efficiently, and I have some questions.
Right now, I am not having any trouble farming act 3 with this current gear... I'm able to do an alkaizer run in about 12-15 minutes, which is kind of slow due to my lowish DPS but its not too bad, getting about 30mil xp/hour. Obviously, I'm going to want to upgrade nearly all of my gear after the patch though.
Questions:
1) Is more than 2 pc IK worth it? I think upgrading by boots and chest to IK pieces would be worthwhile, as I'd get a large strength and resist all boost, but after that I'm not so sure. My current rare belt is basically as good as a cheap IK belt, at least to the point that it wouldnt be a huge upgrade, and the gloves and helm are absurdly expensive if you want all resist, to the point that it really seems like getting rares in those slots would be more worthwhile. My only question though is whether the reduced melee damage stat on the gloves/helm/3pc bonus is strong enough to make it worth losing that all resist.
2) Mighty weapon vs axe/mace. I know this is kind of an eternal debate. Right now I am using the mighty weapon because it makes it easier for me to keep WOTB up 100% of the time on live, but based on the little I've played on the PTR I won't be able to do that anymore even with the mighty weapon. If 100% WOTB uptime is no longer possible, is using an axe/mace just a better choice now? Is 100% WOTB uptime possible with 50%+ crit AND a mighty weapon?
3) Tyrael's might. Any thoughts on using this over the IK chest, which would make it much easier to pick up full crit and all resist on the bracers? Obviously it loses some strength due to the lack of sockets, but wouldn't the increased damage to demons and elites make up for it?
Any other advise, thoughts, issues etc that I ought to be aware of?
Found this on the PTR, I'd buy wep's first as they will increase your dps tremendously
Imagine if that rolled with CD on it also =( still wep's dropping on the PTR are beautiful and they are dropping fairly often even on mp4 which is what I farm
Honestly if I were you, I wouldn't even drop money on upgrades, upgrades are dropping from mobs now, at least, much more than on live. Try farming a1 with some MP when 1.05 goes live and see what you get
1) I think there's 2 options here, either go with 2 or 5 pieces of IK gear. I don't think the 3-set bonus is worth going for. 5-set is awesome tho, I like the fact that I don't lose fury overtime.
2) I'd go with mace/axe, due to 10% crit. When you're spinning on bosses / packs in MP10, you gain more fury than you spend, which drops your WotB. You can also spam sprint / battlerage to spend fury, which helps you have the infinite WotB when you have mobs around you. With mace, IK 5-set and 50,5% crit, I didn't drop WotB on uberbosses / key wardens (1 target).
3) IK chest all the way. Tyrael's Might has low bonus dmg against elites. If you want to get bonus dmg against elites, get a 30% SoJ with something like WW or frenzy. And since the mobs take longer to kill, I don't personally value 24% MS that much.
Anyways, on MP10, I don't have any trouble surviving with following stats: 6kish armor, 600ish AR, 400 LoH, 8% LS and around 100k dps with SoJ. Playing with overpower with reflect rune and no warcry. Only problem is that packs take couple minutes to kill :<
Thanks for the input, it's very helpful. Good point about the movement speed being less important on high monster power.
5 pc Immortal King is a must. I've been farming to get myself the last 2 pieces that I need (the most expansive ones... Chest and Helm). Personally, I would go with a mighty weapon. Crit % is very easy to come by with Immortal King's Irons and Triumph, good bracers, plus the upcoming 1.0.5 jewelry, rings are going to go up to 6% crit each and amulets up to 10%. With a mighty weapon, rage generation is crazy and more importantly, it's STEADY. Axes and Maces rely too much on proc % (with Into the Fray) which is getting nerfed a lot.
My goal is to get 5 Immortal King pieces, a high dps Blade of the Warlord with a socket for MH and anything with a socket, LoH, LL and Crit Dmg for offhand.
As one of the previous posters stated above, 24% movement speed is nice, but 12% from boots is enough
dont bother with 5 pieces of IK set, with 400mil you have barely enough for good chest (and perhaps head, not sure what the prices are on US AH) so the only way to get 5 pieces with that amount of money is to buy the crappy rolled ones and at that point you can get a lot better stats by investing those 400mil into rare items
For about 100mil you can get ones with about 140 str and 100 vit. 300mil gets ones that's about 150 str and 150 vit, so I guess that's what you mean by a good rolled one?
This is the one slot where it doesn't seem like you can find rares that really compare. When I search for chest pieces with say 120+ str, 90+vit, 70+ all resist and 3 sockets the only ones that come up are IK chests. When I go the other way and search 90+str, 120+ vit, 70 AR and 3 sockets I get some blackthorne's surcoats for like 50mil or so, but still no rares.
I have the 5 piece IK, but If I found Move speed Ice Climbers and Good trifecta gloves I'd ditch it. Its nice, but not necessary. My observations from the ptr...on high MP, melee hits start to hurt. The 3 pc is probably not a bad idea. Right now, you dont feel it but on the PTR spinning through a pack of tremors or Colossal golger mobs can result in you getting basically 1 shot. I have 10.3k armor and 1k all resists with 50k HP on live to give you an idea of what kind of dmg that is.
don't swap classes..ww/sprint and barbs overall will be nerfed soon, so you gotta switch again..i foresee a lot of drama!
Just FYI, completely untrue. Actually if anything there's a couple buffs to WW barbs. I'm now able to effectively WW barb on the PTR with a 2 hander, which is pretty sweet because I replace my wrath with rend/bloodlust and just keep that up on some champs while I WW, makes it pretty awesome =D
I've played a wizard since release, but I recently decided that I wanted a change of pace and that I was going to switch over to my barb. I sold all my wizard's gear and now have around 400mil in the bank to upgrade. I want to spend it efficiently though, so I'm probably going to wait until after the patch when prices should come down. That said, I'm trying to plan out what I want to buy to upgrade the most efficiently, and I have some questions.
Right now, I am not having any trouble farming act 3 with this current gear... I'm able to do an alkaizer run in about 12-15 minutes, which is kind of slow due to my lowish DPS but its not too bad, getting about 30mil xp/hour. Obviously, I'm going to want to upgrade nearly all of my gear after the patch though.
Questions:
1) Is more than 2 pc IK worth it? I think upgrading by boots and chest to IK pieces would be worthwhile, as I'd get a large strength and resist all boost, but after that I'm not so sure. My current rare belt is basically as good as a cheap IK belt, at least to the point that it wouldnt be a huge upgrade, and the gloves and helm are absurdly expensive if you want all resist, to the point that it really seems like getting rares in those slots would be more worthwhile. My only question though is whether the reduced melee damage stat on the gloves/helm/3pc bonus is strong enough to make it worth losing that all resist.
2) Mighty weapon vs axe/mace. I know this is kind of an eternal debate. Right now I am using the mighty weapon because it makes it easier for me to keep WOTB up 100% of the time on live, but based on the little I've played on the PTR I won't be able to do that anymore even with the mighty weapon. If 100% WOTB uptime is no longer possible, is using an axe/mace just a better choice now? Is 100% WOTB uptime possible with 50%+ crit AND a mighty weapon?
3) Tyrael's might. Any thoughts on using this over the IK chest, which would make it much easier to pick up full crit and all resist on the bracers? Obviously it loses some strength due to the lack of sockets, but wouldn't the increased damage to demons and elites make up for it?
Any other advise, thoughts, issues etc that I ought to be aware of?
Thanks very much for the help!
I had 5 IK pieces, replaced them a day after i got them, its not worth it, price wise or stats wise in my opinion, Witching Hour adds so much DPS, its not worth having the 5 set bonus over it, I was using IK chest + Helm until a few days ago, since i had enough life i decided to switch to tyraels might for run speed instead of boots, and get a high str pair of ice climbers instead.
When patch 1.0.5 hits i will evaluate things a bit differently though, since Mempo Twilight drops with the correct main stat value there, which means it will be an awesome helm if you buy one with crit as well.
I have been going back n forth between axe/mace and mighty weapons, cant really decide which i like the most, i will probably go back to mighty mainhand when the patch hits (if i drop war cry for overpower).
I had a high DPS Blade of the Warlord with socket and its quite overrated in my opinion, it doesn't heal for much compared to a weapon with LL, no matter the scenario its a bad choice in my opinion, if you decide to keep the IK belt i suggest you get the highest damage 1 hander u can get with a socket, if you ditch the IK belt and go for TWH belt, i suggest going for a weapon with LL+socket.
High DMG tornado barbs don't really kite with tornados, i am always in the middle and use WW almost as much as i use tornados, WW benefits greatly from LoH, so a fast offhand with LoH,LL,socket is quite helpful in my opinion.
But then again, its all relative, it comes down to which MP level you will be playing at, the sweet spot for me is MP 5 or 6, and i wont be doing those without at least 5% LL and some LoH.
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First off, for reference, this is my barb's current gear: http://us.battle.net...5/hero/19237630
Right now, I am not having any trouble farming act 3 with this current gear... I'm able to do an alkaizer run in about 12-15 minutes, which is kind of slow due to my lowish DPS but its not too bad, getting about 30mil xp/hour. Obviously, I'm going to want to upgrade nearly all of my gear after the patch though.
Questions:
1) Is more than 2 pc IK worth it? I think upgrading by boots and chest to IK pieces would be worthwhile, as I'd get a large strength and resist all boost, but after that I'm not so sure. My current rare belt is basically as good as a cheap IK belt, at least to the point that it wouldnt be a huge upgrade, and the gloves and helm are absurdly expensive if you want all resist, to the point that it really seems like getting rares in those slots would be more worthwhile. My only question though is whether the reduced melee damage stat on the gloves/helm/3pc bonus is strong enough to make it worth losing that all resist.
2) Mighty weapon vs axe/mace. I know this is kind of an eternal debate. Right now I am using the mighty weapon because it makes it easier for me to keep WOTB up 100% of the time on live, but based on the little I've played on the PTR I won't be able to do that anymore even with the mighty weapon. If 100% WOTB uptime is no longer possible, is using an axe/mace just a better choice now? Is 100% WOTB uptime possible with 50%+ crit AND a mighty weapon?
3) Tyrael's might. Any thoughts on using this over the IK chest, which would make it much easier to pick up full crit and all resist on the bracers? Obviously it loses some strength due to the lack of sockets, but wouldn't the increased damage to demons and elites make up for it?
Any other advise, thoughts, issues etc that I ought to be aware of?
Thanks very much for the help!
Imagine if that rolled with CD on it also =( still wep's dropping on the PTR are beautiful and they are dropping fairly often even on mp4 which is what I farm
Honestly if I were you, I wouldn't even drop money on upgrades, upgrades are dropping from mobs now, at least, much more than on live. Try farming a1 with some MP when 1.05 goes live and see what you get
Thanks for the input, it's very helpful. Good point about the movement speed being less important on high monster power.
My goal is to get 5 Immortal King pieces, a high dps Blade of the Warlord with a socket for MH and anything with a socket, LoH, LL and Crit Dmg for offhand.
As one of the previous posters stated above, 24% movement speed is nice, but 12% from boots is enough
For about 100mil you can get ones with about 140 str and 100 vit. 300mil gets ones that's about 150 str and 150 vit, so I guess that's what you mean by a good rolled one?
This is the one slot where it doesn't seem like you can find rares that really compare. When I search for chest pieces with say 120+ str, 90+vit, 70+ all resist and 3 sockets the only ones that come up are IK chests. When I go the other way and search 90+str, 120+ vit, 70 AR and 3 sockets I get some blackthorne's surcoats for like 50mil or so, but still no rares.
Is there something I'm missing here?
Just FYI, completely untrue. Actually if anything there's a couple buffs to WW barbs. I'm now able to effectively WW barb on the PTR with a 2 hander, which is pretty sweet because I replace my wrath with rend/bloodlust and just keep that up on some champs while I WW, makes it pretty awesome =D
When patch 1.0.5 hits i will evaluate things a bit differently though, since Mempo Twilight drops with the correct main stat value there, which means it will be an awesome helm if you buy one with crit as well.
I have been going back n forth between axe/mace and mighty weapons, cant really decide which i like the most, i will probably go back to mighty mainhand when the patch hits (if i drop war cry for overpower).
I had a high DPS Blade of the Warlord with socket and its quite overrated in my opinion, it doesn't heal for much compared to a weapon with LL, no matter the scenario its a bad choice in my opinion, if you decide to keep the IK belt i suggest you get the highest damage 1 hander u can get with a socket, if you ditch the IK belt and go for TWH belt, i suggest going for a weapon with LL+socket.
High DMG tornado barbs don't really kite with tornados, i am always in the middle and use WW almost as much as i use tornados, WW benefits greatly from LoH, so a fast offhand with LoH,LL,socket is quite helpful in my opinion.
But then again, its all relative, it comes down to which MP level you will be playing at, the sweet spot for me is MP 5 or 6, and i wont be doing those without at least 5% LL and some LoH.