go look it up yourself you idiot. Its the one thing they admitted that was leaked. Since they let a few extra people test it, and one of them sent it over the internet. I wont bother looking that up again. But Blizzard admitted it so shut the fuck up or look it up.
You havent provided me ANY valid argument whatsoever, let alone ANY info, ANY relevant quote, ANY logics, ANY proof of ANY crap your shitting out of your mouth.
You havent made sense with your replys to me on ANY valid argument from me whatsoever, let alone ANY info, ANY relevant quote, ANY logics, ANY so called "crap" i'm shitting out of my mouth.
You're really just selfdestructing ALL the time.
you know, i could say the exact same thing about you. Only difference is that others believe the same about you, and only you believe that about me. All you had was an interview of Rob Pardo that apparently you missunderstood. You're completely arrogant, dont look what the others point out for you and simply stick to what you want to believe. You're just pathetic. And you cant even provide a simple point. Calling people names is easy. I wont try to convince you anymore cause you have no brains to understand simple facts anyway.
Even the screenshot that you so liked to show as proof was made 1 good year after Warcraft III was OUT IN THE MARKET. And you still wont believe that, the gallery i linked says its screenshots come from the ALPHA version. And it was 2003.
Yep "almost" FUCKING TWO YEARS IN DEVELOPMENT, "almost". YOU FUCKING MORON.
WoW was in development within year 2000. Warcraft 3 from 1998. So you're saying that Blizzard decided to cut HALF A GAME and hide a fucking second team to make a completely new game out of it? And you call me a moron? You're pathetic, you know that?
never said it was an accident, what kind of dumb lame argument is that?
its perfectly simple and again you fail to understand. What you say is they planned to make Warcraft 3 more like WoW, but after 2 fucking years of development they decided to cut half the game and make 2 games out of it. So technically "WoW was an accident". Cause instead of making Warcraft 3, they made WoW from it. Will you throw the Pardo interview on me again? Nothing in there to "mean" something like that anyway.
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thats about what everyone thinks about Doppelganger. On the forums, not on this thread.
Can't you two just see, that you're in love with each other? You're runnin' around looking for something that doesn't even exist and it's tearing me up inside just watching you two fight. When everything you've ever wanted is right there in front of you. Now why can't you just admit that?
go look it up yourself you idiot. Its the one thing they admitted that was leaked. Since they let a few extra people test it, and one of them sent it over the internet. I wont bother looking that up again. But Blizzard admitted it so shut the fuck up or look it up.
you know, i could say the exact same thing about you. Only difference is that others believe the same about you, and only you believe that about me. All you had was an interview of Rob Pardo that apparently you missunderstood. You're completely arrogant, dont look what the others point out for you and simply stick to what you want to believe. You're just pathetic. And you cant even provide a simple point. Calling people names is easy. I wont try to convince you anymore cause you have no brains to understand simple facts anyway.
Even the screenshot that you so liked to show as proof was made 1 good year after Warcraft III was OUT IN THE MARKET. And you still wont believe that, the gallery i linked says its screenshots come from the ALPHA version. And it was 2003.
WoW was in development within year 2000. Warcraft 3 from 1998. So you're saying that Blizzard decided to cut HALF A GAME and hide a fucking second team to make a completely new game out of it? And you call me a moron? You're pathetic, you know that?
its perfectly simple and again you fail to understand. What you say is they planned to make Warcraft 3 more like WoW, but after 2 fucking years of development they decided to cut half the game and make 2 games out of it. So technically "WoW was an accident". Cause instead of making Warcraft 3, they made WoW from it. Will you throw the Pardo interview on me again? Nothing in there to "mean" something like that anyway.
thats about what everyone thinks about Doppelganger. On the forums, not on this thread.
Not to fuel the fire even more, or get you mad, but I do remember reading About that somewhere- quoted from a bl9izzard employee who helped maing WoW- it's true, I just cant remember the source, but, You both ought to calm down, and stop arguing over somehting that to you in inevitable, you cant chnage what Diablo 3 will be or anyhting, and you cant chnage the production of a game already made either, so stop, for the sake of all of us who want a decent discussion, not a full out war of mouth
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I just hope he gets it now, i can't explain the obvious more then i did.
Just can't believe he was debating against what Blizzard did and stated.
So let this be the end of it now.
yeah I know, thats what I meant about debating the inevitable...
Anyway, Lets just hope to God they dont fuck up Diablo by making it like WoW, or anyhting similar. Everyone says, Oh, Diablo MMO? Woweeee
No, itd be the stupidest game ever because I'd gurantee they'd start working off of a WoW graphics engine and make it darker looking- but there's another possibility
When developing WC3 They came up for the idea of WoW- part of the team finished WC3 and the other began tinkering with WoW ideas-
They ended up with a very very dark, detailed masterpeice graph9ics engine that looked somehwat realistic- somehting that wouldve fit the diablo world- they kept it but didnt use it for WoW< thinking it might ruin the game. Instead they built off of the old graphics engine they used for WC3. A Diablo MMO might feature this graphics engine and might be something great. After all, who wouldnt want to play an MMO with a nearly full customizable character, around Diablo items and magic, and plot- where you can CHOOSE to be good or evil this time through- with more quests, more items, more armor, more weapons, think off all the vast possibilities.
Then there's the question whether they fuck it up and make it like WoW. They would lose so many players over it- too many people are crtical of WoW, more so everyday. WoW was a sellout game like I've said before, and here's proof- if they worked so hard on it- how did they release it what was it, 3 years after WC3? If that? And they continue to shove out exapnsions every year- because it isnt that hard ot make. WoW is their wallet game, something they can reach in and pull money out of- Therefore if they do make a Diablo MMO, what will it be? Another wallet game?
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I just read a news about StarCraft2, the vice president of BLZ, Rob Pardo said that, SC2 will not release in 2007, he also emphasize that, only 40 people participated in the development of SC2. In the meantime, Rob Pardo droped a HINT, he said BLZ in now focusing on an MMORPG, it can't be the fucking WOW, so the most possibility is Diablo3...:D Yes!! Diablo 3 is now under developing. I am counting on Rob Pardo..
As much as I love Blizzard. They better not make a second MMO. One is enough to handle. Besides, I really think a lot of people would be disappointed if Blizzard just did a WoW remake, in Diablo form. Granted, Tyrael would look freaking sweet in 3D! :). But still, monthly fee = No no.
....It really showed off the engine at a beautiful angle, but what eventually ended up happening to us was that we got to a point where we had to take the design in one of two different directions. We either had to make it even more RPG-like and cut back on the scale of units, how many characters there were, and things of that nature, or we had to go the other direction and move the camera up, allow free scrolling, and go more towardwhat we've done previously in our real-time strategy games. That's the easiest way to explain the difference between the two [directions].
again this doesnt prove anything. Shows 2 possible directions and what i said makes it obvious why they didnt choose the first one.
....It really showed off the engine at a beautiful angle, but what eventually ended up happening to us was that we got to a point where we had to take the design in one of two different directions
You do understand this part, right?
Its about ONE engine, right?[\QUOTE]
its about one engine cause hes talking about Warcraft 3, retard.
[QUOTE]Its about how they ended up to a point where they had to take the design in one of two directions, right?
yes, and they decided to go RTS since there were other "plans" for the RPG future of that particular universe.
Now you're debating they just did one direction because they where ALREADY developing WoW or they ALREADY planned on making a WoW before they started with Warcraft 3, right?
makes sense.
you keep quoting the same things all the time, apparently the Warcraft 3 developing team almost took the wrong way and ALMOST made it be "something" more RPG like, since they did plan to include more RPG elements for the heroes etc. But why didnt they? Think they, in the middle of the game development said "better leave it, we'll make another game in that way"? Blizzards development teams are independent. Every one of those works for itself. And since both were made at about the same time it couldnt be the case.
Now serious, you're a fucking moron if you can't understand this.
apparently you forgot your stupidity with that screenshot. And of course you havent mentioned it. Since its where you understood how wrong you were.
Not to fuel the fire even more, or get you mad, but I do remember reading About that somewhere- quoted from a bl9izzard employee who helped maing WoW- it's true, I just cant remember the source, but, You both ought to calm down, and stop arguing over somehting that to you in inevitable, you cant chnage what Diablo 3 will be or anyhting, and you cant chnage the production of a game already made either, so stop, for the sake of all of us who want a decent discussion, not a full out war of mouth
if you find it somewhere, link it over, as i said before, i'll say i'm wrong (in public). But what Doppelganger tries is to prove his stupidity by being stubborn and missinterpreting things. No, thats nothing that could get me convinced. His major points are down and he keeps quoting the same things trying to explain them with the wrong way.
And i dont think that Diablo 3 will be anything else than what the previous games were used to be. But if i just stop talking this retard will think i surrender. But i'm not simply cause he missinterprets shit and offends me and anyone else.
Doppelganger, although I must commend you for at least attempting to use a cited argument, it only suits to destroy itself. None of the sources you provided directly stated, or even mentioned that Warcraft 3 was an MMORPG. They all say it was an RTS with RPG elements. And the sources prove that what they meant by a change in direction was a balancing of genre elements, because there were too many RPG elements in an RTS game. I would cite everything you stated, but I've got more interesting and pertinent things to do than listen to your idle banter.
Really what I'm wondering is if they will use the badass 3d RPG Engine they made and put away...That would be kickass- if they could incorporate it to how DII is. That would make a sweet game. I'm just hoping it wont be an MMO.
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While I look with envy at what has been done in the WoW sphere, I must say that Diablo 2 has no peer as a single player RPG.
If Diablo 3 is STILL a kick-a RPG then I'll be whooping for joy.
If Blizzard manage to make the online aspect better then I have an open mind to playing D3 with others as an online co-operative RPG.
I want the opportunity to play in a party where our instance of the game is not shared by anyone else.
But I am also open to Blizzard seeking to employ other optional online game play styles which enhance the RPG centricity of Diablo so that noone will ever say that D3 is merely a hack and slash game.
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So we've got over the problem of colour in D3. Great. Now let's argue about everything else not yet set in stone and help make this game simply great! Game on.
WoW is their wallet game, something they can reach in and pull money out of- Therefore if they do make a Diablo MMO, what will it be? Another wallet game?
Yes, and i'm also sure they will put it as monthly-fee.
If Diablo 3 is a MMORPG, I will not purchase it.
If Diablo 3 has a monthly fee, I will not purchase it.
If Diablo 3 requires me to buy a new video card, I will not purchase it.
If Diablo 3 is highly time-comsuming and does not give me instant satisfaction like its predecessors, I will not purchase it.
If Diablo 3 is a MMORPG, I will not purchase it.
If Diablo 3 has a monthly fee, I will not purchase it.
If Diablo 3 requires me to buy a new video card, I will not purchase it.
If Diablo 3 is highly time-comsuming and does not give me instant satisfaction like its predecessors, I will not purchase it.
The list goes on...
If Diablo 3 doesn't require me to buy a new video card i wont buy it >.< btw i have a GeForce 5200 it sucks balls so........ and if you really want instant satisfaction google image search "boobs" it's a lot easier and cheaper.
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What I mean is that I don't want Diablo 3 to be WoW in the Diablo world. What I enjoy about Diablo 2 is that I can sit down and play 1 hour, tp to town and leave the game and I won't feel like I have missed *the* opportunity of completing that quest. One thing I like about WoW and the other Diablos is how I can plan my char build and how items play a large part of the game.
What I want from Diablo 3 is a Diablo 2 with exciting new functionalities, support for guilds and auctions, more viable builds, more skills and items, all that with an updated engine without requiring me to buy a brand new computer.
If Diablo 3 requires me to buy a new video card, I will not purchase it.
This game won't come out until 2010 if announced this year, we all know that. But you have a problem upgrading your video card by 2010?
You better not complain, I don't want to have less polygons because you're a cheap shit. Why do you even own a computer? If you want future proof just get a PS3 or Xbox360, the games cannot go beyond the system requirements obviously.
Any Blizzard game never really made you upgrade a video card, at least Diablo franchise didn't. Unless you have a completely crappy computer that should already be upgraded, then you will be able to play Diablo III No problem.
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go look it up yourself you idiot. Its the one thing they admitted that was leaked. Since they let a few extra people test it, and one of them sent it over the internet. I wont bother looking that up again. But Blizzard admitted it so shut the fuck up or look it up.
you know, i could say the exact same thing about you. Only difference is that others believe the same about you, and only you believe that about me. All you had was an interview of Rob Pardo that apparently you missunderstood. You're completely arrogant, dont look what the others point out for you and simply stick to what you want to believe. You're just pathetic. And you cant even provide a simple point. Calling people names is easy. I wont try to convince you anymore cause you have no brains to understand simple facts anyway.
Even the screenshot that you so liked to show as proof was made 1 good year after Warcraft III was OUT IN THE MARKET. And you still wont believe that, the gallery i linked says its screenshots come from the ALPHA version. And it was 2003.
WoW was in development within year 2000. Warcraft 3 from 1998. So you're saying that Blizzard decided to cut HALF A GAME and hide a fucking second team to make a completely new game out of it? And you call me a moron? You're pathetic, you know that?
its perfectly simple and again you fail to understand. What you say is they planned to make Warcraft 3 more like WoW, but after 2 fucking years of development they decided to cut half the game and make 2 games out of it. So technically "WoW was an accident". Cause instead of making Warcraft 3, they made WoW from it. Will you throw the Pardo interview on me again? Nothing in there to "mean" something like that anyway.
thats about what everyone thinks about Doppelganger. On the forums, not on this thread.
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Not to fuel the fire even more, or get you mad, but I do remember reading About that somewhere- quoted from a bl9izzard employee who helped maing WoW- it's true, I just cant remember the source, but, You both ought to calm down, and stop arguing over somehting that to you in inevitable, you cant chnage what Diablo 3 will be or anyhting, and you cant chnage the production of a game already made either, so stop, for the sake of all of us who want a decent discussion, not a full out war of mouth
Parallel truth, awaken in translucence
Sealed by this deadened song
Sinking in toneless comatose
Come and tear my skin, fear what's within
Its massive darkness filling my world
Submerged rage writing unspoken words
no wait.. this is just getting entertaining (or boring maybe). keep up the good work? lawlz
yeah I know, thats what I meant about debating the inevitable...
Anyway, Lets just hope to God they dont fuck up Diablo by making it like WoW, or anyhting similar. Everyone says, Oh, Diablo MMO? Woweeee
No, itd be the stupidest game ever because I'd gurantee they'd start working off of a WoW graphics engine and make it darker looking- but there's another possibility
When developing WC3 They came up for the idea of WoW- part of the team finished WC3 and the other began tinkering with WoW ideas-
They ended up with a very very dark, detailed masterpeice graph9ics engine that looked somehwat realistic- somehting that wouldve fit the diablo world- they kept it but didnt use it for WoW< thinking it might ruin the game. Instead they built off of the old graphics engine they used for WC3. A Diablo MMO might feature this graphics engine and might be something great. After all, who wouldnt want to play an MMO with a nearly full customizable character, around Diablo items and magic, and plot- where you can CHOOSE to be good or evil this time through- with more quests, more items, more armor, more weapons, think off all the vast possibilities.
Then there's the question whether they fuck it up and make it like WoW. They would lose so many players over it- too many people are crtical of WoW, more so everyday. WoW was a sellout game like I've said before, and here's proof- if they worked so hard on it- how did they release it what was it, 3 years after WC3? If that? And they continue to shove out exapnsions every year- because it isnt that hard ot make. WoW is their wallet game, something they can reach in and pull money out of- Therefore if they do make a Diablo MMO, what will it be? Another wallet game?
Parallel truth, awaken in translucence
Sealed by this deadened song
Sinking in toneless comatose
Come and tear my skin, fear what's within
Its massive darkness filling my world
Submerged rage writing unspoken words
"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
As much as I love Blizzard. They better not make a second MMO. One is enough to handle. Besides, I really think a lot of people would be disappointed if Blizzard just did a WoW remake, in Diablo form. Granted, Tyrael would look freaking sweet in 3D! :). But still, monthly fee = No no.
again this doesnt prove anything. Shows 2 possible directions and what i said makes it obvious why they didnt choose the first one.
yes, and they decided to go RTS since there were other "plans" for the RPG future of that particular universe.
makes sense.
you keep quoting the same things all the time, apparently the Warcraft 3 developing team almost took the wrong way and ALMOST made it be "something" more RPG like, since they did plan to include more RPG elements for the heroes etc. But why didnt they? Think they, in the middle of the game development said "better leave it, we'll make another game in that way"? Blizzards development teams are independent. Every one of those works for itself. And since both were made at about the same time it couldnt be the case.
apparently you forgot your stupidity with that screenshot. And of course you havent mentioned it. Since its where you understood how wrong you were.
if you find it somewhere, link it over, as i said before, i'll say i'm wrong (in public). But what Doppelganger tries is to prove his stupidity by being stubborn and missinterpreting things. No, thats nothing that could get me convinced. His major points are down and he keeps quoting the same things trying to explain them with the wrong way.
And i dont think that Diablo 3 will be anything else than what the previous games were used to be. But if i just stop talking this retard will think i surrender. But i'm not simply cause he missinterprets shit and offends me and anyone else.
Parallel truth, awaken in translucence
Sealed by this deadened song
Sinking in toneless comatose
Come and tear my skin, fear what's within
Its massive darkness filling my world
Submerged rage writing unspoken words
If Diablo 3 is STILL a kick-a RPG then I'll be whooping for joy.
If Blizzard manage to make the online aspect better then I have an open mind to playing D3 with others as an online co-operative RPG.
I want the opportunity to play in a party where our instance of the game is not shared by anyone else.
But I am also open to Blizzard seeking to employ other optional online game play styles which enhance the RPG centricity of Diablo so that noone will ever say that D3 is merely a hack and slash game.
Yes, and i'm also sure they will put it as monthly-fee.
If Diablo 3 has a monthly fee, I will not purchase it.
If Diablo 3 requires me to buy a new video card, I will not purchase it.
If Diablo 3 is highly time-comsuming and does not give me instant satisfaction like its predecessors, I will not purchase it.
The list goes on...
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If Diablo 3 doesn't require me to buy a new video card i wont buy it >.< btw i have a GeForce 5200 it sucks balls so........ and if you really want instant satisfaction google image search "boobs" it's a lot easier and cheaper.
Imagine if the ingame graphics were as detailed as the one in the videos...
:D:D:D
Have Fun,
Live your life,
What I want from Diablo 3 is a Diablo 2 with exciting new functionalities, support for guilds and auctions, more viable builds, more skills and items, all that with an updated engine without requiring me to buy a brand new computer.
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This game won't come out until 2010 if announced this year, we all know that. But you have a problem upgrading your video card by 2010?
You better not complain, I don't want to have less polygons because you're a cheap shit. Why do you even own a computer? If you want future proof just get a PS3 or Xbox360, the games cannot go beyond the system requirements obviously.