I would say that I agree with you, but people look at two things when they click on a thread. The title and the Author... And with the obvious stance of your view on the art direction with that signature of yours, nothing good was bound to come out of this thread.
That's a problem of theirs. I honestly wasn't trying to push for either side of the arguement, I was just trying to give insight into why people have issues with the art direction because no one has politely discussed it.
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Fair enough. I think the petition at least brought Blizzard to the attention of some of the dislikes people, I hate the word "fan" now..., have for Diablo right now. I expect a change on the same level as Starcraft 2.
That's the only reason I signed the petition (once) and put a link to it in my sig. To think that a list of names on a petition would get Blizzard to go "Ok, we need to change the art direction NOW!" is naive. The only reason I've been in favor of the petition is simply for Blizzard to get feedback on the issue that some fans feel strongly about and so that voices could be heard; not to force will and MAKE Blizzard change anything.
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That's a problem of theirs. I honestly wasn't trying to push for either side of the arguement, I was just trying to give insight into why people have issues with the art direction because no one has politely discussed it.
Yup. That's the main problem with the art direction "discussions". They are shunned about because they turn into one side against the other, instead of a discussion.
I think Feste was pretty good at pointing that out.
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"The certain prospect of death could sweeten every life with a precious and fragrant drop of levity, and now you
strange apothecary souls have turned it into an ill-tasting drop of poison that makes the whole of life repulsive." -Nietzsche
Yup. That's the main problem with the art direction "discussions". They are shunned about because they turn into one side against the other, instead of a discussion.
I think Feste was pretty good at pointing that out.
Agreed.
I also just noticed your signature. Nice :thumbsup:
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It could be possible, if people would actually try to read and understand. Sentences like "Then you are not a true fan..." and "Then turn down saturation on your monitor if you don't like colors..." just kill the discussion and get the temperature up to the roof, so i guess you're right here...
being able to mark posts as spam could help here like on youtube...
That's actually a good point. That could be very useful if people used it correctly.
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How can I convince someone that there is, for example, WoW influence in D3 graphics if the other person doesn't see the connection, that is perhaps very clear and visible to me? I can show them screens, point to features that I find problematic - but they still don't see it... And that's their personal opinion - it might annoy me, but I can't change it - because my opinion is as subjective as theirs... opinions are not always based on logic.
How can I convince others that the current style doesn't fit D3 if in their eyes it beautiful and awesome? Or they just don't care about graphics? I can't change their personal priorities... They can't really change mine...
If there was a 'bow' smiley, you'd get it.
All your points I agree with. All you can do is state opinions, give reasons behind those opinions, and discuss them with others. Opinions more than likely won't change no matter what you do. But just because you can't change them, doesn't mean you can't discuss it; which is what I was trying to do with this thread. Some did politely discuss it though, and that I'm thankful for.
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That's a problem of theirs. I honestly wasn't trying to push for either side of the arguement, I was just trying to give insight into why people have issues with the art direction because no one has politely discussed it.
That's the only reason I signed the petition (once) and put a link to it in my sig. To think that a list of names on a petition would get Blizzard to go "Ok, we need to change the art direction NOW!" is naive. The only reason I've been in favor of the petition is simply for Blizzard to get feedback on the issue that some fans feel strongly about and so that voices could be heard; not to force will and MAKE Blizzard change anything.
USEast D2 Ladder/1.13 Beta: Accnt = ChezPizmo
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A cool, unrelated video; "Dude Bids 420 on Price is Right" ("420, Bob")
"I'm nasty, I'm old and a little bit ornery; I look like Patrick Stewart and sound like Sean Connery."
Patch 1.13 = (click here)
Yup. That's the main problem with the art direction "discussions". They are shunned about because they turn into one side against the other, instead of a discussion.
I think Feste was pretty good at pointing that out.
strange apothecary souls have turned it into an ill-tasting drop of poison that makes the whole of life repulsive." -Nietzsche
Agreed.
I also just noticed your signature. Nice :thumbsup:
That's actually a good point. That could be very useful if people used it correctly.
USEast D2 Ladder/1.13 Beta: Accnt = ChezPizmo
USEast WCIII Ladder: Accnt = TeeheeSprinkles
A cool, unrelated video; "Dude Bids 420 on Price is Right" ("420, Bob")
"I'm nasty, I'm old and a little bit ornery; I look like Patrick Stewart and sound like Sean Connery."
Patch 1.13 = (click here)
If there was a 'bow' smiley, you'd get it.
All your points I agree with. All you can do is state opinions, give reasons behind those opinions, and discuss them with others. Opinions more than likely won't change no matter what you do. But just because you can't change them, doesn't mean you can't discuss it; which is what I was trying to do with this thread. Some did politely discuss it though, and that I'm thankful for.
USEast D2 Ladder/1.13 Beta: Accnt = ChezPizmo
USEast WCIII Ladder: Accnt = TeeheeSprinkles
A cool, unrelated video; "Dude Bids 420 on Price is Right" ("420, Bob")
"I'm nasty, I'm old and a little bit ornery; I look like Patrick Stewart and sound like Sean Connery."
Patch 1.13 = (click here)