I'm sure WoL SW monk can keep up with flash fire wizard, especially with that big buff in 2.4.1
How would that work? You would have to give up Tzo Krin's Gaze to be able to wear the Sage's set... which weakens the build significantly, doesn't it? I also haven't kept track of the monk changes in 2.4.1 to be honest. But I think the Tal wizard is the only fast TX build that can be combined with Sage's set without sacrificing anything of significance.
I'm sure WoL SW monk can keep up with flash fire wizard, especially with that big buff in 2.4.1
How would that work? You would have to give up Tzo Krin's Gaze to be able to wear the Sage's set... which weakens the build significantly, doesn't it? I also haven't kept track of the monk changes in 2.4.1 to be honest. But I think the Tal wizard is the only fast TX build that can be combined with Sage's set without sacrificing anything of significance.
I actually run the SW monk with Sages (helm and boots) and yes, you pretty much have to give up Tzo Krin's Gaze to use it, which decreases your damage by quite a bit, but my monk still streamrolls T10 even without it. That will be even more true once patch 2.4.1 hits live and the SW damage goes up from 1500% to 3000%.
So that might work and is a potential alternative... just like Invoker's+Sage's, or Zuni+Sage's, basically every example where you have "unusual" slots for sets or where you don't need the full set for full damage (Raekor). However, OP was not asking for possibilities, but for what's best - and the Tal wizard is simply the fastest TX clearing class *with* Sage's (LoN monk, LoN crus, and DH are probably faster overall). I've tried almost every TX spec of almost every class (except DH) and just nothing beats wizard in DB per hour.
I'm sure WoL SW monk can keep up with flash fire wizard, especially with that big buff in 2.4.1
How would that work? You would have to give up Tzo Krin's Gaze to be able to wear the Sage's set... which weakens the build significantly, doesn't it? I also haven't kept track of the monk changes in 2.4.1 to be honest. But I think the Tal wizard is the only fast TX build that can be combined with Sage's set without sacrificing anything of significance.
Sets are so powerful in 2.4.1 that you can play without a perfect dps combination to farm T10.
And I think Monk with In-Geom is almost unbeatable in terms of movementspeed
In-Geom is horrible. It's always nice on paper and when it works, but when you get the gaps of elites or long walk rifts it's complete garbage. It also causes stressful gameplay for me personally because I always feel like I'm being rushed (like Taeguk) and you don't really have time to stop and pick up the yellows/blues for mats (which you WILL need sooner or later).
Then again I may just be spoiled by Aethar Walker, but I'd always prefer consistent builds with boon, warzechian, etc as opposed to In-Geom
the following its written on the build page: "You will get most death breaths per hour, if you run this build on somewhere between T6 and T8, with best in slot gear, I'd recommend to go max T8 or T9. At least if you want most death breaths per hour as possible."
As a barb with learning disability, I find that sage tal rasha wizzard with wand of woh is very efficient. I have no issues and its finger friendly, as you need to use only 2 skills during the process. Before I was using raekor sage build but it was frustrating and weak.
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My main is a crusader, but I can't make a T10 with Sage's (tried shield bash).
With Sage's and T10, what is the quickest class/build? Any ideas? Thanks!!!
Wizard, with Tal Rasha+Wand of Woh.
I actually run the SW monk with Sages (helm and boots) and yes, you pretty much have to give up Tzo Krin's Gaze to use it, which decreases your damage by quite a bit, but my monk still streamrolls T10 even without it. That will be even more true once patch 2.4.1 hits live and the SW damage goes up from 1500% to 3000%.
Yeah, just like I thought.
So that might work and is a potential alternative... just like Invoker's+Sage's, or Zuni+Sage's, basically every example where you have "unusual" slots for sets or where you don't need the full set for full damage (Raekor). However, OP was not asking for possibilities, but for what's best - and the Tal wizard is simply the fastest TX clearing class *with* Sage's (LoN monk, LoN crus, and DH are probably faster overall). I've tried almost every TX spec of almost every class (except DH) and just nothing beats wizard in DB per hour.
Also this here gives some pointers: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/20418543014 - TL;DR: Of all the fast TX farming specs *with* Sage's, wizard is the fastest without sacrificing anything.
Edit: Granted, we're talking about 2.4 here right now; who knows what new stuff people come up with in 2.4.1 ;-)
In-Geom is horrible. It's always nice on paper and when it works, but when you get the gaps of elites or long walk rifts it's complete garbage. It also causes stressful gameplay for me personally because I always feel like I'm being rushed (like Taeguk) and you don't really have time to stop and pick up the yellows/blues for mats (which you WILL need sooner or later).
Then again I may just be spoiled by Aethar Walker, but I'd always prefer consistent builds with boon, warzechian, etc as opposed to In-Geom
Wow! Thanks a lot for all the info!
I don't have any gear for Wiz/WD, and about the Invoker's+Sage, I tried this, but with only 985 Paragon, I found it not too good:
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/69919-2-4-fast-death-breath-farm
Any idea to make it better?
You are been very helpful (sorry for my English).
i mention this because you said crusader main, i cant believe nobody else is mentioned this i mean its on the front page lol...
http://www.diablofans.com/builds/69919-2-4-fast-death-breath-farm, and for T10 you def don't to wait for COE it will line up eventually were not talking a GR were talking speed X DB Farming hope this helps =)
the following its written on the build page: "You will get most death breaths per hour, if you run this build on somewhere between T6 and T8, with best in slot gear, I'd recommend to go max T8 or T9. At least if you want most death breaths per hour as possible."
Yeah, I wrote in my 9# comment that I have tried it. Everything ancient, some Augmented... Not enough for T10
I´ve copied and pasted Drahque´s Text
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Chadwixx-1438/hero/74878164
Im using a chicken build and do t7.
Horse sader is probably best for t10, my chicken starts having problems at around g50, horse saders are good until 70
i was just giving him a viable crusader option calm down nerds
As a barb with learning disability, I find that sage tal rasha wizzard with wand of woh is very efficient. I have no issues and its finger friendly, as you need to use only 2 skills during the process. Before I was using raekor sage build but it was frustrating and weak.
Season 6 barbarian solo sc EU grift 85 12m 23.199s MotE build