Blizzard has done a pretty good job balancing races between classes.
I wonder what the next class will be and what race
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Looking at her nose and eyes, there's no doubt she's Asian. The male wizard on the other hand is not Asian:
No Asian has a long pointy nose like that. The eyes aren't a typical east Asian person's eyes, either. He really looks like a White guy with long dark hair. So why did Blizzard only make an Asian female and White male wizard but keep all the other races' ethnicities consistent?
But being serious now, I think it's pretty cool and nice catch on the island there. I was trying to find information that the Wizard was Asian too but I couldn't find anything.
Actually it just looks like the male wizard is hybrid, the offspring of an Asian and a white parent. The female wizard is definately Asian, yes. Chinese I think? Though Asians themselves are better at judging this.
Yeah, I agree. It's not quite fully a white person, either. The eyes wouldn't be in the right ballpark.
Also, I agree with the Wizard being Asian, but I don't really care. It's not like playing as my own race or an other race is something that interests me. I simply play for the gameplay.
As a second note, where is the afro american race in D3? The WD is more black African rather then brown afro American. I just think we need a brown colored race in D3, which is very common.
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I think the wizard has the fair skin complexion and dark straight hair typical of people of asian descent yes
also the armor we've seen for them does look particularly oriental in style, very much so
i imagine the design is to produce a kind of lithe delicate spellcaster, at least aesthetically
so far im liking this, the sorceress from diablo 2 to me looked akin to a gypsy of sorts.
its a nice change.
You're thinking way too broad about this "background." For example in D2, the paladin was obviously black. Its true he may not be called "African-American" in Sanctuary, but there IS some sort of ethnicity going on. What would you say the ethnicity of the paladin would be??
And there is no conformity involved. I was just using a general ethnicity that would fit the Wizard. You and I both know that the wizard isn't from Asia, but has some sort of oriental ethnicity. Thats just you being a smartass. Of course the Wizard isn't "Asian" because they're not in "Asia."
Also, the developers of Blizzard had stated that the Monk consisted of some sort of European decent during a presentation at Blizzcon 2009.
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLDopEL4sPc (around the 4:55 mark)
Finally, Blizzard put in races and genders and such for a reason: DIVERSITY!!!
So the conclusion: the Wizard is of oriental decent.
D2 paladin was not black, in that he didn't have sub Saharan features, In the game he was from Kurast(act III) and if you looked at the NPC of act 3 they were sorta south Asian (Indian) like. that explains his dark skin but generally Caucasian facial features.
this is what i think the characters we know of from the diablo series ethnically:
D1:
-warrior was from west march, where the people generally look European.
-rouge was from khanduras, where people also look European
-sorcerer looks black on the selection screen, but in concept art looks south asian.
D2:
-barbarian was from barbarian land, which is populated by viking/Celtic looking people
-necro was from eastern kingdoms but look european. Note it seems eastern kingdoms are more multiethnic than western kingdoms which are mostly European and middle eastern looking.
-sorceress mostly give a middle eastern vibe and she might be from around lut golein.
-paladin is from Kurast, Indian looking
-amazon from islans to the south of western kingdoms, she looks european.
D3:
-barbarian already done
-witch doctor does look black, and is from jungles in the south of eastern kingdoms.
-monk looks like a mix of russian/middle eastern and buddist clothing.
-wizard looks asian, but in early concept art looked more european, but i guess they decided on asian.
You guys MAY just be looking too far into it and missing the big point. They may want to give their characters traits like ethnicity, but these are ethnicities they are making up themselves. So their "asian", in the Sanctuary world, may not be AS asian as our asian in the real world.
They didn't make the female wizard asian and the male european. No. They just gave them both SUBTLE attributes due to creating their OWN races.
And yes, they want to make one race more "asian" and another race more "celtic" or maybe "european" because it gives character to these people, and separates one from the other. Giving them.... Wallaaa... **Charrrracterrrr**
It helps develop who they are and where they're from. But don't dig into why they look or don't look "MORE ASIAN".
You guys MAY just be looking too far into it and missing the big point. They may want to give their characters traits like ethnicity, but these are ethnicities they are making up themselves. So their "asian", in the Sanctuary world, may not be AS asian as our asian in the real world.
They didn't make the female wizard asian and the male european. No. They just gave them both SUBTLE attributes due to creating their OWN races.
And yes, they want to make one race more "asian" and another race more "celtic" or maybe "european" because it gives character to these people, and separates one from the other. Giving them.... Wallaaa... **Charrrracterrrr**
It helps develop who they are and where they're from. But don't dig into why they look or don't look "MORE ASIAN".
You just contradicted yourself. You're telling people not to dig too deep into it but at the same time, you point out...exactly what they did.
Artists use human models and features either live, from reference, or recollection, to distinguish the character. Everything is planned out from ethnicity to the garments that match culturally with the ethnicity.
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You guys MAY just be looking too far into it and missing the big point. They may want to give their characters traits like ethnicity, but these are ethnicities they are making up themselves. So their "asian", in the Sanctuary world, may not be AS asian as our asian in the real world.
They didn't make the female wizard asian and the male european. No. They just gave them both SUBTLE attributes due to creating their OWN races.
And yes, they want to make one race more "asian" and another race more "celtic" or maybe "european" because it gives character to these people, and separates one from the other. Giving them.... Wallaaa... **Charrrracterrrr**
It helps develop who they are and where they're from. But don't dig into why they look or don't look "MORE ASIAN".
You just contradicted yourself. You're telling people not to dig too deep into it but at the same time, you point out...exactly what they did.
Artists use human models and features either live, from reference, or recollection, to distinguish the character. Everything is planned out from ethnicity to the garments that match culturally with the ethnicity.
I completely agree with what your saying. Maybe my grammar and the way I speak came out too strongly in text. (Southern American here. You know us rednecks.)
But I don't think I contradicted myself. This to me, was just kind of blatant and obvious information. I didn't dig into anything. I didn't post pictures to state my point, and I didn't argue and say anyone was wrong.
Think what I'm saying is, so the nose is bigger on the female wizard, (and asians have predominately smaller noses.) Doesn't matter because they aren't trying to create and "asian", just something like it. But different.
Looking at her nose and eyes, there's no doubt she's Asian. The male wizard on the other hand is not Asian:
No Asian has a long pointy nose like that. The eyes aren't a typical east Asian person's eyes, either. He really looks like a White guy with long dark hair. So why did Blizzard only make an Asian female and White male wizard but keep all the other races' ethnicities consistent?
the male wizard actually looks a lot like my brother and he is Chinese.
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This is what I think the characters were racially, but first let me explicate my reasoning by explaining my criteria.
white people:
1) long, angular, gaunt & narrow face
2) projecting and prominent facial features
3) high-nose bridge with a pointed nasal tip like a dagger
4) thin lips
Asian people:
1) short, round, plump & broad face
2) flat and featureless facial features
3) low-nose bridge with a rounded nasal tip like a mortar
4) full lips
Note: most of the characters do not fully have all the traits of one category even if I label them as one race.
D1:
-Warrior - white person
-Rogue - white person
-Sorcerer - Asian person
-Monk - Asian person
D2:
-Barbarian - Asian person
-Amazon - white/Asian biracial person
-Sorceress - white person
-Necromancer - white person
-Assassin - white person
-Druid - white person
-Paladin - Asian person
D3:
-Barbarians - Asian people
-Monks - white/Asian biracial people
-Wizards - white/Asian biracial people
-Witch Doctor female - Asian person
-Witch Doctor male - white/Asian biracial person
[/quote]
what makes you think the barbarian and amazon are asian! Is this a joke.
He looks a lot like the protagonist of many a Chinese movie.. Definitely looks Asian.
Also, while I agree that they kind of create their own races and it's impossible to describe 'the' african and 'the' asian to begin with, we have to keep in mind that certain features are just way too characteristic for certain races/areas to ignore:
- If you give a character a fair skin and light hair, it's gonna look European, even if it has a wide nose.
- Dark hair, fair skin and 'squinty' eyes: it will look Asian, no matter what its other features are.
- Half dark skin (light brown) and dark hair: North African, Middle Eastern, Indian... (this is the most varied category, to distinguish between them other features, such as dress, or more subtle differences in skin tone, come into play).
- Dark hair, dark skin: African.
No Asian has a long pointy nose like that. The eyes aren't a typical east Asian person's eyes, either. He really looks like a White guy with long dark hair. So why did Blizzard only make an Asian female and White male wizard but keep all the other races' ethnicities consistent?
Asian itself is a rather broad term. You're just complaing that he doesn't look slanty eyed enough and, "talks rike this".
I mean, are you really gonna examine the features of his face and tell us he's not Asian? I'd feel pretty silly trying to do that.
Well, look at the bright side- now that you finally know what you look like, you no longer need a mirror anymore...especially with a featureless face.
On topic- I seriously doubt game companies create characters to appeal to different demographics. More like they just want them to have diversity and some originality.
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I wonder what the next class will be and what race
Looking at her nose and eyes, there's no doubt she's Asian. The male wizard on the other hand is not Asian:
No Asian has a long pointy nose like that. The eyes aren't a typical east Asian person's eyes, either. He really looks like a White guy with long dark hair. So why did Blizzard only make an Asian female and White male wizard but keep all the other races' ethnicities consistent?
Could be the beginning of a conspiracy where Blizzard plans to conquer the world.
Hmm...long pointy nose. Indeed that is very alarming.
Keep up the great work Columbo. You are definitely onto something.
But being serious now, I think it's pretty cool and nice catch on the island there. I was trying to find information that the Wizard was Asian too but I couldn't find anything.
Yeah, I agree. It's not quite fully a white person, either. The eyes wouldn't be in the right ballpark.
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also the armor we've seen for them does look particularly oriental in style, very much so
i imagine the design is to produce a kind of lithe delicate spellcaster, at least aesthetically
so far im liking this, the sorceress from diablo 2 to me looked akin to a gypsy of sorts.
its a nice change.
this is what i think the characters we know of from the diablo series ethnically:
D1:
-warrior was from west march, where the people generally look European.
-rouge was from khanduras, where people also look European
-sorcerer looks black on the selection screen, but in concept art looks south asian.
D2:
-barbarian was from barbarian land, which is populated by viking/Celtic looking people
-necro was from eastern kingdoms but look european. Note it seems eastern kingdoms are more multiethnic than western kingdoms which are mostly European and middle eastern looking.
-sorceress mostly give a middle eastern vibe and she might be from around lut golein.
-paladin is from Kurast, Indian looking
-amazon from islans to the south of western kingdoms, she looks european.
D3:
-barbarian already done
-witch doctor does look black, and is from jungles in the south of eastern kingdoms.
-monk looks like a mix of russian/middle eastern and buddist clothing.
-wizard looks asian, but in early concept art looked more european, but i guess they decided on asian.
They didn't make the female wizard asian and the male european. No. They just gave them both SUBTLE attributes due to creating their OWN races.
And yes, they want to make one race more "asian" and another race more "celtic" or maybe "european" because it gives character to these people, and separates one from the other. Giving them.... Wallaaa... **Charrrracterrrr**
It helps develop who they are and where they're from. But don't dig into why they look or don't look "MORE ASIAN".
You just contradicted yourself. You're telling people not to dig too deep into it but at the same time, you point out...exactly what they did.
Artists use human models and features either live, from reference, or recollection, to distinguish the character. Everything is planned out from ethnicity to the garments that match culturally with the ethnicity.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
But I don't think I contradicted myself. This to me, was just kind of blatant and obvious information. I didn't dig into anything. I didn't post pictures to state my point, and I didn't argue and say anyone was wrong.
Think what I'm saying is, so the nose is bigger on the female wizard, (and asians have predominately smaller noses.) Doesn't matter because they aren't trying to create and "asian", just something like it. But different.
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the male wizard actually looks a lot like my brother and he is Chinese.
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This is what I think the characters were racially, but first let me explicate my reasoning by explaining my criteria.
white people:
1) long, angular, gaunt & narrow face
2) projecting and prominent facial features
3) high-nose bridge with a pointed nasal tip like a dagger
4) thin lips
Asian people:
1) short, round, plump & broad face
2) flat and featureless facial features
3) low-nose bridge with a rounded nasal tip like a mortar
4) full lips
Note: most of the characters do not fully have all the traits of one category even if I label them as one race.
D1:
-Warrior - white person
-Rogue - white person
-Sorcerer - Asian person
-Monk - Asian person
D2:
-Barbarian - Asian person
-Amazon - white/Asian biracial person
-Sorceress - white person
-Necromancer - white person
-Assassin - white person
-Druid - white person
-Paladin - Asian person
D3:
-Barbarians - Asian people
-Monks - white/Asian biracial people
-Wizards - white/Asian biracial people
-Witch Doctor female - Asian person
-Witch Doctor male - white/Asian biracial person
[/quote] what makes you think the barbarian and amazon are asian! Is this a joke.
Also, while I agree that they kind of create their own races and it's impossible to describe 'the' african and 'the' asian to begin with, we have to keep in mind that certain features are just way too characteristic for certain races/areas to ignore:
- If you give a character a fair skin and light hair, it's gonna look European, even if it has a wide nose.
- Dark hair, fair skin and 'squinty' eyes: it will look Asian, no matter what its other features are.
- Half dark skin (light brown) and dark hair: North African, Middle Eastern, Indian... (this is the most varied category, to distinguish between them other features, such as dress, or more subtle differences in skin tone, come into play).
- Dark hair, dark skin: African.
I mean, are you really gonna examine the features of his face and tell us he's not Asian? I'd feel pretty silly trying to do that.
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On topic- I seriously doubt game companies create characters to appeal to different demographics. More like they just want them to have diversity and some originality.