I want to ask a couple questions about PS3, because our family plans to get one (and I hope we're getting it this time... *sigh*). Please don't tell me to get an XBOX 360/Wii without being very clear about why those consoles are better, but we mostly observed the pros and cons so far, so unless there's something seriously wrong with the PS3, we are not changing our minds.
One of the reasons I want a PS3 is because of backwards compatibility with PS2 games, but I don't know how reliable that is. Do games like Metal Gear Solid II, Final Fantasy X, and God of War work fine on PS3 without additional gadgets/drivers? We are looking at the 80 Gb PS3.
Anyone here tried to, or uses FragFX?
Are there non-graphics related issues with PC-ported games such as FarCry II and Fallout III? E.g., are they dumbed down, easier, missing content, etc.
Are there any complications with using an HD TV or a standard monitor with the PS3? Does the PS3 need any extra drivers for that to work? Does it look weird? How do old games look on widescreen TV monitors?
Is it still possible to buy a PS gun for old games of this nature, and do they work with the PS3? (games where you aim at the screen with a gun and shoot things)
I myself own an Xbox 360, but a few of my friends own PS3's and they are very reliable machines.
Games for both the 360 and PS3 that have been ported from the PC I personally feel are dumbed down, because instead of having a keyboard and mouse to work with, you have a limited number of buttons and two joysticks. So shooter games are a little bit more skill-demanding for pin point targeting and the like.
The only complication I saw with a PS3 and using an HDTV was tiny, and easily fixed. To switch in between a standard TV and an HDTV, you just have to make sure the cable is plugged into the right slot on the PS3, and hold the power on button for 5-10 seconds to switch it over. Quite easy.
As for the PS gun, I'm not sure. I'll have to look into that.
Games for both the 360 and PS3 that have been ported from the PC I personally feel are dumbed down, because instead of having a keyboard and mouse to work with, you have a limited number of buttons and two joysticks. So shooter games are a little bit more skill-demanding for pin point targeting and the like.
That's why I asked about FragFX, it seems to be pretty effective. Not as effective as a real mouse, but anything is better than a game pad.
I believe that the currently available 80 GB lacks PS2 backwards compatibility. If you can find an older used one, then you should be set.
The blu-ray playback is really the only selling point for me at this point since there are very few PS3 games I'd purchase that aren't on the Xbox 360.
all that matters is that socom confrontation is on the ps3........ no other selling point required.. and as for me that is the only reason i bought a ps3, i have no other games or controllers
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DIABLO = DEVIL its not supposed to be a nice game autostats are rediclous lack of pots is not welcome if it aint broke dont fix it! (diablo2)
Well the only thing that's wrong with PS3's is that they're expensive, which is why they didn't do so well at first. But besides that, it's a pretty good system. Myself, I would rather get the XBox 360 since it has the Live where you can play with other people and it's a lot more popluar. But that's just me.
One of the reasons I want a PS3 is because of backwards compatibility with PS2 games, but I don't know how reliable that is. Do games like Metal Gear Solid II, Final Fantasy X, and God of War work fine on PS3 without additional gadgets/drivers? We are looking at the 80 Gb PS3.
Final Fantasy X and God of War both work fine on it- I played both of them- however, games ported to PS2 from older systems (like Grandia II from Dreamcast remake for PS2) didn't port well to PS3. So basically, PS2 games that were made for the PS2 work fine, but ported remakes don't so well in a few cases.
Are there non-graphics related issues with PC-ported games such as FarCry II and Fallout III? E.g., are they dumbed down, easier, missing content, etc.
I didn't even realize Fallout III was out already, so no clue. I'd imagine that they'd be about the same- BlueRay discs hold infinitely more data than standard DVD discs for computer games and the PS3 is more than able to play those both on max settings. The only thing that would change is playstyle- controls- but that's opinion based.
Are there any complications with using an HD TV or a standard monitor with the PS3? Does the PS3 need any extra drivers for that to work? Does it look weird? How do old games look on widescreen TV monitors?
There are no complications when using it on an HD TV or a regular TV as long as you hook it up right with the right cables (use the instruction manual.) It doesn't come with an HDMI cable, unfortunately- or at least mine didn't (I got the 80 GB). Old games naturally look odd, but it depends how old they are. For instance, I play FFX a lot on my PS3, and it looks slightly odd, but I've found that that's because I'm playing a game intended for a normal TV on an HD TV. Also, there are settings that MASSIVELY reduce the amount of distortion (the amount of distortion on FFX with the settings on is virtually none). Also, the PS3 has settings to change it from stretched to normal- stretched being the new format, normal being the size of old games.
It does not need additional drivers, unless you mean an HDMI cable for HD output.
Is it still possible to buy a PS gun for old games of this nature, and do they work with the PS3? (games where you aim at the screen with a gun and shoot things)
No, I don't think so. The issues with this are that #1 controllers are completely wireless- you charge them with a mini USB cable (there are quite a few USB ports on it- mine came with 4. It also has SD/mini SD, PRO, and CF slots.) and #2 the most recently released controller from Sony was the wireless rechargable motion-sensor controller with rumble (the first controllers only had rechargability, motion senser, and wireless features- they are much lighter.) Personally, I never used rumble features (when I set down the controller on my wood floor it makes annoying noises) and normally turned it off for games, and I like the lighter controller- it weighs less that PSX controllers.
Myself, I would rather get the XBox 360 since it has the Live where you can play with other people and it's a lot more popluar. But that's just me.
Playstation has PSN (Play Station Network) which is completely free and provides the same services as Xbox Live (and the coming PS Home- a free online world with Next-Gen. graphics). Most games are free online (they mentioned that some types, like MMO's- Square Enix is planning a new one- might be P2P, but the actual PSN service is free). It also has an internet browser- which might be annoying to some people, but most people have USB mouses and keyboards by now, so you can just plug them in and use them, if you want. That's what I do. And their browser is, of course, very standards-compliant.
I believe that the currently available 80 GB lacks PS2 backwards compatibility. If you can find an older used one, then you should be set.
The blu-ray playback is really the only selling point for me at this point since there are very few PS3 games I'd purchase that aren't on the Xbox 360.
yup, if its the ps2 games you want to play, you can buy a ps2 for around 50 USD.
ps3 is great if you like gaming and really good quality movies, it has blue-ray, which by itslef costs around 200 USD, so in essence, your only playing 100 USD for the game system...
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I believe that the currently available 80 GB lacks PS2 backwards compatibility. If you can find an older used one, then you should be set.
I have the 80 GB and I play PS2 games on it (see my post). And occasionally PSX games (I'm replaying FFIX this week).
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And also, about the motion sensor thing- It's not like the Wii's, of course. The Wii was built specifically around that concept. For the PS3, the motion sensor isn't used in most games (although it was used in Folklore very well), and for the most part just adds a little depth to games (you can move around SackBoy's head in Little Big Planet, you can use it to steer in most driving games, etc.)
I have the 80 GB and I play PS2 games on it (see my post). And occasionally PSX games (I'm replaying FFIX this week).
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And also, about the motion sensor thing- It's not like the Wii's, of course. The Wii was built specifically around that concept. For the PS3, the motion sensor isn't used in most games (although it was used in Folklore very well), and for the most part just adds a little depth to games (you can move around SackBoy's head in Little Big Planet, you can use it to steer in most driving games, etc.)
yeah, seems your right, it lacks full support but i guess some games can still be played, anyways, heres a review i found helpful:
One of the reasons I want a PS3 is because of backwards compatibility with PS2 games, but I don't know how reliable that is. Do games like Metal Gear Solid II, Final Fantasy X, and God of War work fine on PS3 without additional gadgets/drivers? We are looking at the 80 Gb PS3.
If I remember right, the 60 GB version had hardware emulation to run all old games, I think it could even run all PS1 games as well.
You'll probably have to check how this works now, because in Europe you can no longer get a PS3 that is backwards compatible unless you buy a used 60 GB one.
PlugY for Diablo II allows you to reset skills and stats, transfer items between characters in singleplayer, obtain all ladder runewords and do all Uberquests while offline. It is the only way to do all of the above. Please use it.
Supporting big shoulderpads and flashy armor since 2004.
basically whatever system if good for you is what do you want to do with it? if you have a ps1 or ps2 already and still want to play those games, then get a ps3 put if you want new games and games that are fun online, then get a 360, or if you want fun mess around for awhile then get a wii
basically whatever system if good for you is what do you want to do with it? if you have a ps1 or ps2 already and still want to play those games, then get a ps3 put if you want new games and games that are fun online, then get a 360, or if you want fun mess around for awhile then get a wii
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Please don't tell me to get an XBOX 360/Wii without being very clear about why those consoles are better, but we mostly observed the pros and cons so far, so unless there's something seriously wrong with the PS3, we are not changing our minds.
In other words, don't waste neither mine nor your time.
So can anyone really confirm the differences in 60-80 Gb versions compatibility wise? Because we plan to buy a new one.
Official PS3 website says 2 USB ports. But I have trouble understanding what do they have to do with compatibility.
So can anyone really confirm the differences in 60-80 Gb versions compatibility wise? Because we plan to buy a new one.
Official PS3 website says 2 USB ports. But I have trouble understanding what do they have to do with compatibility.
You're out of luck it seems. If the PS3 has four USB-ports, then it has backward compatibility. If it only has two ports, it doesn't.
If you want backward compatibility at all, you'll have to get an older version. They're no longer produced.
PlugY for Diablo II allows you to reset skills and stats, transfer items between characters in singleplayer, obtain all ladder runewords and do all Uberquests while offline. It is the only way to do all of the above. Please use it.
Supporting big shoulderpads and flashy armor since 2004.
The 80 GB PS3's you find in the stores today do not have any PS2 support. The older ones did. You're best bet is to find an old used PS3 if you want backwards compatibility.
You're out of luck it seems. If the PS3 has four USB-ports, then it has backward compatibility. If it only has two ports, it doesn't.
Um, can you explain that, please?
What do USB ports have to do with compatibility?
"because in Europe you can no longer get a PS3 that is backwards compatible unless you buy a used 60 GB one. "
So the 60 Gb one works?
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If you want backward compatibility at all, you'll have to get an older version. They're no longer produced.
Or not? Because we can get a 60 Gb one...
If you say old ones work, how old should they be?
And why does the official website say they are still supporting backward compatibility of they aren't...?
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ill tell you right now, if your going to play games online get a 360, ps3's internet is laggy as hell and the interface is incredibly hard to use.
the only reason to get a ps3 is socom.... end of story
One of the reasons I want a PS3 is because of backwards compatibility with PS2 games, but I don't know how reliable that is. Do games like Metal Gear Solid II, Final Fantasy X, and God of War work fine on PS3 without additional gadgets/drivers? We are looking at the 80 Gb PS3.
Anyone here tried to, or uses FragFX?
Are there non-graphics related issues with PC-ported games such as FarCry II and Fallout III? E.g., are they dumbed down, easier, missing content, etc.
Are there any complications with using an HD TV or a standard monitor with the PS3? Does the PS3 need any extra drivers for that to work? Does it look weird? How do old games look on widescreen TV monitors?
Is it still possible to buy a PS gun for old games of this nature, and do they work with the PS3? (games where you aim at the screen with a gun and shoot things)
Games for both the 360 and PS3 that have been ported from the PC I personally feel are dumbed down, because instead of having a keyboard and mouse to work with, you have a limited number of buttons and two joysticks. So shooter games are a little bit more skill-demanding for pin point targeting and the like.
The only complication I saw with a PS3 and using an HDTV was tiny, and easily fixed. To switch in between a standard TV and an HDTV, you just have to make sure the cable is plugged into the right slot on the PS3, and hold the power on button for 5-10 seconds to switch it over. Quite easy.
As for the PS gun, I'm not sure. I'll have to look into that.
P.S. - Hope you get it, and have fun with it
The blu-ray playback is really the only selling point for me at this point since there are very few PS3 games I'd purchase that aren't on the Xbox 360.
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its not supposed to be a nice game
autostats are rediclous
lack of pots is not welcome
if it aint broke dont fix it! (diablo2)
Final Fantasy X and God of War both work fine on it- I played both of them- however, games ported to PS2 from older systems (like Grandia II from Dreamcast remake for PS2) didn't port well to PS3. So basically, PS2 games that were made for the PS2 work fine, but ported remakes don't so well in a few cases.
I didn't even realize Fallout III was out already, so no clue. I'd imagine that they'd be about the same- BlueRay discs hold infinitely more data than standard DVD discs for computer games and the PS3 is more than able to play those both on max settings. The only thing that would change is playstyle- controls- but that's opinion based.
There are no complications when using it on an HD TV or a regular TV as long as you hook it up right with the right cables (use the instruction manual.) It doesn't come with an HDMI cable, unfortunately- or at least mine didn't (I got the 80 GB). Old games naturally look odd, but it depends how old they are. For instance, I play FFX a lot on my PS3, and it looks slightly odd, but I've found that that's because I'm playing a game intended for a normal TV on an HD TV. Also, there are settings that MASSIVELY reduce the amount of distortion (the amount of distortion on FFX with the settings on is virtually none). Also, the PS3 has settings to change it from stretched to normal- stretched being the new format, normal being the size of old games.
It does not need additional drivers, unless you mean an HDMI cable for HD output.
No, I don't think so. The issues with this are that #1 controllers are completely wireless- you charge them with a mini USB cable (there are quite a few USB ports on it- mine came with 4. It also has SD/mini SD, PRO, and CF slots.) and #2 the most recently released controller from Sony was the wireless rechargable motion-sensor controller with rumble (the first controllers only had rechargability, motion senser, and wireless features- they are much lighter.) Personally, I never used rumble features (when I set down the controller on my wood floor it makes annoying noises) and normally turned it off for games, and I like the lighter controller- it weighs less that PSX controllers.
Playstation has PSN (Play Station Network) which is completely free and provides the same services as Xbox Live (and the coming PS Home- a free online world with Next-Gen. graphics). Most games are free online (they mentioned that some types, like MMO's- Square Enix is planning a new one- might be P2P, but the actual PSN service is free). It also has an internet browser- which might be annoying to some people, but most people have USB mouses and keyboards by now, so you can just plug them in and use them, if you want. That's what I do. And their browser is, of course, very standards-compliant.
ps3 is great if you like gaming and really good quality movies, it has blue-ray, which by itslef costs around 200 USD, so in essence, your only playing 100 USD for the game system...
"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
I have the 80 GB and I play PS2 games on it (see my post). And occasionally PSX games (I'm replaying FFIX this week).
Edit-
And also, about the motion sensor thing- It's not like the Wii's, of course. The Wii was built specifically around that concept. For the PS3, the motion sensor isn't used in most games (although it was used in Folklore very well), and for the most part just adds a little depth to games (you can move around SackBoy's head in Little Big Planet, you can use it to steer in most driving games, etc.)
http://reviews.cnet.com/consoles/sony-playstation-3-80gb/4505-10109_7-32733576.html
"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
You'll probably have to check how this works now, because in Europe you can no longer get a PS3 that is backwards compatible unless you buy a used 60 GB one.
That's odd, it says it only comes with 2 USB ports- mine has 4 :confused:
"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
So can anyone really confirm the differences in 60-80 Gb versions compatibility wise? Because we plan to buy a new one.
Official PS3 website says 2 USB ports. But I have trouble understanding what do they have to do with compatibility.
If you want backward compatibility at all, you'll have to get an older version. They're no longer produced.
the only reason to get a ps3 is socom.... end of story
its not supposed to be a nice game
autostats are rediclous
lack of pots is not welcome
if it aint broke dont fix it! (diablo2)
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http://www.diablofans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17929
What do USB ports have to do with compatibility?
"because in Europe you can no longer get a PS3 that is backwards compatible unless you buy a used 60 GB one. "
So the 60 Gb one works?
Or not? Because we can get a 60 Gb one...
If you say old ones work, how old should they be?
And why does the official website say they are still supporting backward compatibility of they aren't...?
Read my first post and get out of here.
EDIT: I found some intersting info on here: http://bombmatt.wordpress.com/2008/08/29/playstation-3-backwards-compatibility-demystified/
It seems to make sense. There's a 60 Gb 2006 PS3 on Amazon that costs MORE than the new 80 Gb PS3 does, lol...