Ah, but zombies do not ask you when is a good time for you. Or is you're planning any major life changes soon. An outbreak could occur at any time. You may think your life is seemingly normal while making out with your girlfriend, then suddenly you hear screaming outside as zombies are walking down the street and biting people. Ya know?
Then, that plan is an outline. It can be modified to accommodate the situation.
Zombies do seem to come at the worst time.
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Right. Your contingency plan cannot be ideal in anyway. It needs to be adaptable and practical. And discriminating against gender in any way won't work.
keep an ice pick on your belt for close encounters. Quick jabs to the eyes and you'll more likely take out a chunk of the brain.
I had not thought of ice picks....nice! One shot to the temple is all you'd need.
@Umpa
Your plan seems risky. I mean you're talking about stealing guns from a gun store...that won't go well. You would probably HAVE to kill the owner/s before they'd let you take their guns. I know you'd have to kill me if I owned the store.
Also, people will be absolutely SWARMING the docks, because that's what everyone around you would be thinking. Personally, in your situation I'd probably head north and make camp in the Appalachians somewhere. Although I'd agree that finding an island would probably be a better long-term solution.
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It's not discrimination per say. It's simply survival of the fittest.
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Not outright, by any means. I'm saying though, you plan to exclude a person based on their gender. Arguably discriminatory even if not with ill intent. But you've already acknowledged that's impractical anyway so the debate is now moot.
I had not thought of ice picks....nice! One shot to the temple is all you'd need.
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Your plan seems risky. I mean you're talking about stealing guns from a gun store...that won't go well. You would probably HAVE to kill the owner/s before they'd let you take their guns. I know you'd have to kill me if I owned the store.
Also, people will be absolutely SWARMING the docks, because that's what everyone around you would be thinking. Personally, in your situation I'd probably head north and make camp in the Appalachians somewhere. Although I'd agree that finding an island would probably be a better long-term solution.
True...It's risky but if you act quickly enough you can be the victor of the boat.
If your willing to abuse people and take advantage of them then you gain an advantage in obtaining a vessel. Yes it's risky but the rewards are greater.
I agree that we may have to kill the owner if he is still alive. Hopefully we can avoid death at any cost. Maybe I have relatives with guns or something. I know I have a good amount in virginia but i cant get up there.
It alll depends on how far along the outbreak is. If I act quickly enough I can get up the money to actually buy the guns.
But I am indeed willing to steal a private vessel.
It would simply call for a more elaborate plan.
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If it's a serious outbreak, and there is no more control by any levels of government nearby, then yeah, you definitely need to flee the city. If you can pack up everything you need right from you're home, that is the only true ideal kind of situation. Trips into the city are rarely worth it during an outbreak. But starvation, cold weather, the threats imposed by nature can be just as deadly as the zombies. So it's a risk assessment. Does the cost of going into the city for supplies outweigh the benefits?
And no one should seriously expect to find a nice quiet island. The only island in the world that would do well in a worldwide outbreak would be Cuba. I would stay the hell away from the docks. You'd get killed by people trying to get on boats before being eaten by a zombie.
Ideally the zombies are slow. We would be prepared to move very quietly and very quickly. They may smell us but hopefully they will never see us.
The problem with the movies is that they have them all grouped up EVERYWHERE. When in reality the world is a bit bigger than that. So in a town where the populous is low then I don't see how avoiding the zombies would be that difficult.
I wouldn't have my hopes up for an island. Definitely not. But sailing out definitely seems like the best escape route. I would bring a map and try to plot an appropriate route.
The internet is essentially wherever you need it to be with our newest technologies so staying in touch and garnering ideas for survival and where it may be safe would be much easier.
So, once we are on the boat. If we could contact a safe zone we could try and sail to that location and hopefully it would be close to shore.
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Oh! I forgot to mention ANOTHER thing, the (specefic) people that would be with me:
Survivor: My brother and his best friend (both of which live in my house), both are old enough, and are outdoor junkies, they kknow how to survive in cases like this. They also have 2 incredibly sharp axes (my brother was less than an inch away from completely slicing his thumb off, but thankfully only took a small chunk of it out) and a machete.
We also have a few shotguns, but ammo for them is limited. My dad is a hunter, so he has some marksmenship experience. I'm athletic, reasonably reasonable, sharp eyes, quick and a decent decision maker in tight situations, plus fate always tends to be on my side anyways.
For eye candy and girls? Well hopefully there'll be a lot hiding in the school, so no worries there?
And yeah, Umpa - don't think you're the only one who'll try to make a tool of others to try and get a boat as well. Chances are you'll get killed more quickly if you go for the boats, like Siay-Siay said.
And seriously, I wanna head over to the police station and ask them about what supplies they have.
edit: I'm confident it isn't a replica, but I don't know for sure. Regardless of which, I'd rather use a gun than a sword. Unless they were hookswords, that would be downright sexy.
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And yeah, Umpa - don't think you're the only one who'll try to make a tool of others to try and get a boat as well. Chances are you'll get killed more quickly if you go for the boats, like Siay-Siay said.
And seriously, I wanna head over to the police station and ask them about what supplies they have.
Well, My plan includes the element of surprise. If you get there and think of it before everybody else then you have that element on your side. You wont get killed because they wont expect it depending on how early you attempt your take over.
And unless they are soldiers or something our tactics will be good enough to overwhelm somebody not even expecting us.
You all act as if the zombies are attacking everywhere. I'm saying that I would DEFINITELY take advantage of any time opportunity I had and try and be the very first to anything. We would have our ZSS ready to go at the first sign of the zombie apocalypse.
Good preparation will yield good results.
But yes, if we are too late then maybe we may have to find some other way to obtain a vessel or another route completely.
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Ideally the zombies are slow. We would be prepared to move very quietly and very quickly. They may smell us but hopefully they will never see us.
The problem with the movies is that they have them all grouped up EVERYWHERE. When in reality the world is a bit bigger than that. So in a town where the populous is low then I don't see how avoiding the zombies would be that difficult.
I wouldn't have my hopes up for an island. Definitely not. But sailing out definitely seems like the best escape route. I would bring a map and try to plot an appropriate route.
The internet is essentially wherever you need it to be with our newest technologies so staying in touch and garnering ideas for survival and where it may be safe would be much easier.
So, once we are on the boat. If we could contact a safe zone we could try and sail to that location and hopefully it would be close to shore.
Pfft! The internet?! That will be one of the first things to go down in a major outbreak. The internet isn't something magical. With empowering technologies comes the necessary infrastructure and manpower to maintain them. You think some guy working at Comcast is gonna make sure your internet is working when the zombies attack? You can just forget about that right now.
Small towns seem attractive. And they certainly are more than big cities, but keep in mind that a lot of like minded people are also thinking they're going to make their exodus into a small town and make in impregnable fortress and live of the fat of the land. This is also not as likely as you think. Many infected people will be traveling into these areas. When they become zombies, they might become a zombie in a barnhouse, or even in the middle of some tall shrubs. There may be less a zombie factor in the small towns, but there are still plenty of dangers to be had there, especially if you establish a nice stronghold. In a prolonged outbreak after society long has broken down, there will be scavengers, but there will also be raiders and bandits. And they're going to take what they can from you. So if they see a nice small little town that's ripe for the picking, then suddenly zombies become the least of your problems.
And don't underestimate how difficult zombies will be to avoid still. Unless the brain is destroyed, a zombie will keep going no matter what. If a group of zombies' last sight of humans was of a car full of them driving down the road, they will follow relentlessly until another human captures their attention. And if an outbreak were to spread fast in a city like Chicago, L.A., or New York City, there are millions of people in those cities. If half of them became zombies, you'd have tons of zombies sprawling out in so many directions.
Pfft! The internet?! That will be one of the first things to go down in a major outbreak. The internet isn't something magical. With empowering technologies comes the necessary infrastructure and manpower to maintain them. You think some guy working at Comcast is gonna make sure your internet is working when the zombies attack? You can just forget about that right now.
Small towns seem attractive. And they certainly are more than big cities, but keep in mind that a lot of like minded people are also thinking they're going to make their exodus into a small town and make in impregnable fortress and live of the fat of the land. This is also not as likely as you think. Many infected people will be traveling into these areas. When they become zombies, they might become a zombie in a barnhouse, or even in the middle of some tall shrubs. There may be less a zombie factor in the small towns, but there are still plenty of dangers to be had there, especially if you establish a nice stronghold. In a prolonged outbreak after society long has broken down, there will be scavengers, but there will also be raiders and bandits. And they're going to take what they can from you. So if they see a nice small little town that's ripe for the picking, then suddenly zombies become the least of your problems.
And don't underestimate how difficult zombies will be to avoid still. Unless the brain is destroyed, a zombie will keep going no matter what. If a group of zombies' last sight of humans was of a car full of them driving down the road, they will follow relentlessly until another human captures their attention. And if an outbreak were to spread fast in a city like Chicago, L.A., or New York City, there are millions of people in those cities. If half of them became zombies, you'd have tons of zombies sprawling out in so many directions.
Maybe your right about the internet lol.
In terms of small towns. We are not going to make camp for very long. Our strategy involves speed and constantly moving. If we enter a small city we will do so to gain supplies.
Bandits may be a problem. One we will hopefully be able to avoid with speed of reaction to the outbreaks. Bandits are survivors. I'm hoping we are long gone while there is still a population and simply an outbreak.
Bandits are more post apocalyptic. I don't intend to be on the continent post apocalyptic. I hope to be in the water before that even happens.
So the plan relies on speed and constant movement that will keep us a few steps ahead of survivors of any kind and zombies alike.
As far as the plan goes. It is all about the timing. If it is off then the plan will be off. But that is the primary plan for a situation where time may be permitted. If the situation is different then the overall plan may be completely different but the nomadic element of the plan would hopefully remain relevant.
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In terms of small towns. We are not going to make camp for very long. Our strategy involves speed and constantly moving.
Well your contingency plan needs to factor in the possibility that the outbreak lasts for months, and possibly even years. Do you know precarious civilization is? The amount of time it takes for cities to begin rioting after not having electricity is about two days. And that's just based on a power outage. Imagine the cessation of potable drinking water. Imagine the gas stations either set ablaze or completely out of fuel. All of these things will happen in a major outbreak. If it's more a medium outbreak, it may not even be necessary for you to stay on the run as you plan on doing.
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f we enter a small city we will do so to gain supplies.
If there are lots of supplies in the city, I still might recommend simply staying there until you no longer have any choice. Don't just go there to stock up. Go there and live there reasonably for as long as you can.
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Bandits are more post apocalyptic. I don't intend to be on the continent post apocalyptic. I hope to be in the water before that even happens.
As I said, if the outbreak is a major one, society will break down very rapidly and things will get pretty near post-apocalyptic if not outright. Can you imagine a congested city catching fire without any fire department? Such a fire could burn for days, possibly weeks before it burns out. Amidst the chaos of people fleeing the cities, there will be plenty of fire and rapidly diminishing water. And it's this whole thing about the water that I think you should reconsider. I would probably stick to woodlands that are near towns.
In the water, there are millions of ships currently at sea. Most of these ships are civilian, but what makes you think that at the news of an outbreak that many ships would never have returned to land except to find an island somewhere. And what about military submarines on prolonged campaigns. Those military people will quickly annex a piece of land if it suits them. I'm just saying, if you're on the continent, stay there. There is no island out there waiting for you anymore. If there is a livable island, it's already been taken or is constantly being fought over.
True...If it's a severe outbreak which it probably would be things would happen really fast as you pointed out...Hmm.
Well. In terms of necessity to stay, if the outbreak is really bad then it would be pointless to delay the inevitable. Might as well get out as quickly as possible.
Just read the last part. Didn't see it the first time. Good point on the military. You don't think they would help accommodate us? Probably not.
Maybe the wilderness is a better idea.
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Step One: After forming a survival group, I'd break into nearby military bases to steal weapons, ammunition, and a new mode of transportation.
Step Two: I would find a secure location which would provide food, shelter and possibly clothing. For me, that would be a Costco.
Step Three: When provisions run out, my group and I would find another location to reside in, repeating the process until the crisis is over.
Step Four: Procreate to repopulate.
That would be my plan anyway.
I will not be joining your group. Your idea is worse than mine lol. Good luck accomplishing step one.
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True...If it's a severe outbreak which it probably would be things would happen really fast as you pointed out...Hmm.
Well. In terms of necessity to stay, if the outbreak is really bad then it would be pointless to delay the inevitable. Might as well get out as quickly as possible.
Just read the last part. Didn't see it the first time. Good point on the military. You don't think they would help accommodate us? Probably not.
The good news about major outbreaks is you can begin to see signs. You look for news reports of mysterious deaths or strange kinds of flu viruses that seem to be killing lots of people. Or if people are being arrested and acting delirious and rabid, those may actually be zombies in those jail cells.
When the full outbreak hits, you're largely stuck on the piece of land you are on. But if you are keen on the signs of a full outbreak, then you might make your escape before everything actually turns into chaos.
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Step One: After forming a survival group, I'd break into nearby military bases to steal weapons, ammunition, and a new mode of transportation.
Step Two: I would find a secure location which would provide food, shelter and possibly clothing. For me, that would be a Costco.
Step Three: When provisions run out, my group and I would find another location to reside in, repeating the process until the crisis is over.
Step Four: Procreate to repopulate.
That would be my plan anyway.
Your survival group can't just be handpicked out of the most finest and elite individuals. You nor your group are breaking into anything, let alone a military base. Sheesh.
Anywhere that there's a Costco is going to be a city of considerable size. Other people are already thinking the same thing, "We'll just go live in the Costco." Forget that.
And when provisions run out, do you hope that every little place you find is going to have Costcos or even just regular grocery stores full of goods? The perishable items are long gone. The canned goods have already been looted all over the place by other survivors.
After the crises is over. Do you mean the zombie crises? Cause just rebuilding society is part of the crises. Any idiot can shoot their sticky wad into a woman and make a baby. That's no kind of implementation. I'd focus primarily on making things stable and educating survivors about all known zombie survival guide tactics and then procuring renewable water and food sources. Even with the crises over, you can never be positive that you killed every single last zombie on earth. And all it takes is one bite from a zombie to start the outbreak all over again. But sure, make babies and everything. But even if just 1,000,000 out of the 300,000,000 people in the U.S. survive, humanity isn't exactly that close to being extinct. Babies will be a priority sure, but that shouldn't be the primary focus just yet.
The military is bound to do everything within their power to control the situation, which as first, will fail miserably (we all know this to be true). At which point, they will find themselves short handed and require civilians to join the cause. It is then that my group and I would gather weapons, ammunition etc, then travel to a safe location that can provide food and shelter for a long time.
So you don't see how attacking a group of people with better weapons than you is a bad idea? You act like there will only be 10 people guarding the place.
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A few of you seem a bit too concerned with procuring guns. Sure, guns are nice, but ammunition is finite. And here's another thing about guns. A pistol is not a bad idea to have. Even a .22 is good because it's easy to carry and maintain. But it's only good for close range. To get a headshot from (we're all in agreement you have to destroy a zombie's brain to kill it, right?) with a pistol or rifle is pretty difficult. If you're near point blank range, then you should be able to pull it off okay, assuming you're only facing one zombie at a time. But what if several are coming at you from different directions? In this situation I would much rather have a high quality machette and dance around the zombies taking swings at their heads than trying to aim my gun right for it.
Maybe you have a shotgun then. Assuming you still have some shells left, you still need to be reasonably close to a zombie to take out enough of its brain with it for the weapon to be effective. A shotgun is more of a crowd control weapon anyway. Don't expect to kill many of them with it, but you can fire into a group of zombie and make them stagger, trip, etc, giving you time to run away.
And assault rifles? Assuming you can even figure out how to operate one they are still pretty encumbersome and unless you have an AK-47 which is one of the simplest most ergonomic assault rifles in existience (many rebel fighters around the world prefer them because they're easy to clean and don't jam as often as models such as the M-16), you're probably just better off ditching it the moment you empty a clip on some zombies. And assault rifles aren't exactly precision weapons either. They are very effective against other humans, but I wouldn't haul one around if there were zombies abound!
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Then, that plan is an outline. It can be modified to accommodate the situation.
Zombies do seem to come at the worst time.
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I had not thought of ice picks....nice! One shot to the temple is all you'd need.
@Umpa
Your plan seems risky. I mean you're talking about stealing guns from a gun store...that won't go well. You would probably HAVE to kill the owner/s before they'd let you take their guns. I know you'd have to kill me if I owned the store.
Also, people will be absolutely SWARMING the docks, because that's what everyone around you would be thinking. Personally, in your situation I'd probably head north and make camp in the Appalachians somewhere. Although I'd agree that finding an island would probably be a better long-term solution.
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"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
True...It's risky but if you act quickly enough you can be the victor of the boat.
If your willing to abuse people and take advantage of them then you gain an advantage in obtaining a vessel. Yes it's risky but the rewards are greater.
I agree that we may have to kill the owner if he is still alive. Hopefully we can avoid death at any cost. Maybe I have relatives with guns or something. I know I have a good amount in virginia but i cant get up there.
It alll depends on how far along the outbreak is. If I act quickly enough I can get up the money to actually buy the guns.
But I am indeed willing to steal a private vessel.
It would simply call for a more elaborate plan.
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And no one should seriously expect to find a nice quiet island. The only island in the world that would do well in a worldwide outbreak would be Cuba. I would stay the hell away from the docks. You'd get killed by people trying to get on boats before being eaten by a zombie.
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The problem with the movies is that they have them all grouped up EVERYWHERE. When in reality the world is a bit bigger than that. So in a town where the populous is low then I don't see how avoiding the zombies would be that difficult.
I wouldn't have my hopes up for an island. Definitely not. But sailing out definitely seems like the best escape route. I would bring a map and try to plot an appropriate route.
The internet is essentially wherever you need it to be with our newest technologies so staying in touch and garnering ideas for survival and where it may be safe would be much easier.
So, once we are on the boat. If we could contact a safe zone we could try and sail to that location and hopefully it would be close to shore.
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Survivor: My brother and his best friend (both of which live in my house), both are old enough, and are outdoor junkies, they kknow how to survive in cases like this. They also have 2 incredibly sharp axes (my brother was less than an inch away from completely slicing his thumb off, but thankfully only took a small chunk of it out) and a machete.
We also have a few shotguns, but ammo for them is limited. My dad is a hunter, so he has some marksmenship experience. I'm athletic, reasonably reasonable, sharp eyes, quick and a decent decision maker in tight situations, plus fate always tends to be on my side anyways.
For eye candy and girls? Well hopefully there'll be a lot hiding in the school, so no worries there?
And yeah, Umpa - don't think you're the only one who'll try to make a tool of others to try and get a boat as well. Chances are you'll get killed more quickly if you go for the boats, like Siay-Siay said.
And seriously, I wanna head over to the police station and ask them about what supplies they have.
edit: I'm confident it isn't a replica, but I don't know for sure. Regardless of which, I'd rather use a gun than a sword. Unless they were hookswords, that would be downright sexy.
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Well, My plan includes the element of surprise. If you get there and think of it before everybody else then you have that element on your side. You wont get killed because they wont expect it depending on how early you attempt your take over.
And unless they are soldiers or something our tactics will be good enough to overwhelm somebody not even expecting us.
You all act as if the zombies are attacking everywhere. I'm saying that I would DEFINITELY take advantage of any time opportunity I had and try and be the very first to anything. We would have our ZSS ready to go at the first sign of the zombie apocalypse.
Good preparation will yield good results.
But yes, if we are too late then maybe we may have to find some other way to obtain a vessel or another route completely.
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Small towns seem attractive. And they certainly are more than big cities, but keep in mind that a lot of like minded people are also thinking they're going to make their exodus into a small town and make in impregnable fortress and live of the fat of the land. This is also not as likely as you think. Many infected people will be traveling into these areas. When they become zombies, they might become a zombie in a barnhouse, or even in the middle of some tall shrubs. There may be less a zombie factor in the small towns, but there are still plenty of dangers to be had there, especially if you establish a nice stronghold. In a prolonged outbreak after society long has broken down, there will be scavengers, but there will also be raiders and bandits. And they're going to take what they can from you. So if they see a nice small little town that's ripe for the picking, then suddenly zombies become the least of your problems.
And don't underestimate how difficult zombies will be to avoid still. Unless the brain is destroyed, a zombie will keep going no matter what. If a group of zombies' last sight of humans was of a car full of them driving down the road, they will follow relentlessly until another human captures their attention. And if an outbreak were to spread fast in a city like Chicago, L.A., or New York City, there are millions of people in those cities. If half of them became zombies, you'd have tons of zombies sprawling out in so many directions.
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Maybe your right about the internet lol.
In terms of small towns. We are not going to make camp for very long. Our strategy involves speed and constantly moving. If we enter a small city we will do so to gain supplies.
Bandits may be a problem. One we will hopefully be able to avoid with speed of reaction to the outbreaks. Bandits are survivors. I'm hoping we are long gone while there is still a population and simply an outbreak.
Bandits are more post apocalyptic. I don't intend to be on the continent post apocalyptic. I hope to be in the water before that even happens.
So the plan relies on speed and constant movement that will keep us a few steps ahead of survivors of any kind and zombies alike.
As far as the plan goes. It is all about the timing. If it is off then the plan will be off. But that is the primary plan for a situation where time may be permitted. If the situation is different then the overall plan may be completely different but the nomadic element of the plan would hopefully remain relevant.
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If there are lots of supplies in the city, I still might recommend simply staying there until you no longer have any choice. Don't just go there to stock up. Go there and live there reasonably for as long as you can.
As I said, if the outbreak is a major one, society will break down very rapidly and things will get pretty near post-apocalyptic if not outright. Can you imagine a congested city catching fire without any fire department? Such a fire could burn for days, possibly weeks before it burns out. Amidst the chaos of people fleeing the cities, there will be plenty of fire and rapidly diminishing water. And it's this whole thing about the water that I think you should reconsider. I would probably stick to woodlands that are near towns.
In the water, there are millions of ships currently at sea. Most of these ships are civilian, but what makes you think that at the news of an outbreak that many ships would never have returned to land except to find an island somewhere. And what about military submarines on prolonged campaigns. Those military people will quickly annex a piece of land if it suits them. I'm just saying, if you're on the continent, stay there. There is no island out there waiting for you anymore. If there is a livable island, it's already been taken or is constantly being fought over.
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Well. In terms of necessity to stay, if the outbreak is really bad then it would be pointless to delay the inevitable. Might as well get out as quickly as possible.
Just read the last part. Didn't see it the first time. Good point on the military. You don't think they would help accommodate us? Probably not.
Maybe the wilderness is a better idea.
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I will not be joining your group. Your idea is worse than mine lol. Good luck accomplishing step one.
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When the full outbreak hits, you're largely stuck on the piece of land you are on. But if you are keen on the signs of a full outbreak, then you might make your escape before everything actually turns into chaos.
Your survival group can't just be handpicked out of the most finest and elite individuals. You nor your group are breaking into anything, let alone a military base. Sheesh.
Anywhere that there's a Costco is going to be a city of considerable size. Other people are already thinking the same thing, "We'll just go live in the Costco." Forget that.
And when provisions run out, do you hope that every little place you find is going to have Costcos or even just regular grocery stores full of goods? The perishable items are long gone. The canned goods have already been looted all over the place by other survivors.
After the crises is over. Do you mean the zombie crises? Cause just rebuilding society is part of the crises. Any idiot can shoot their sticky wad into a woman and make a baby. That's no kind of implementation. I'd focus primarily on making things stable and educating survivors about all known zombie survival guide tactics and then procuring renewable water and food sources. Even with the crises over, you can never be positive that you killed every single last zombie on earth. And all it takes is one bite from a zombie to start the outbreak all over again. But sure, make babies and everything. But even if just 1,000,000 out of the 300,000,000 people in the U.S. survive, humanity isn't exactly that close to being extinct. Babies will be a priority sure, but that shouldn't be the primary focus just yet.
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So you don't see how attacking a group of people with better weapons than you is a bad idea? You act like there will only be 10 people guarding the place.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
Maybe you have a shotgun then. Assuming you still have some shells left, you still need to be reasonably close to a zombie to take out enough of its brain with it for the weapon to be effective. A shotgun is more of a crowd control weapon anyway. Don't expect to kill many of them with it, but you can fire into a group of zombie and make them stagger, trip, etc, giving you time to run away.
And assault rifles? Assuming you can even figure out how to operate one they are still pretty encumbersome and unless you have an AK-47 which is one of the simplest most ergonomic assault rifles in existience (many rebel fighters around the world prefer them because they're easy to clean and don't jam as often as models such as the M-16), you're probably just better off ditching it the moment you empty a clip on some zombies. And assault rifles aren't exactly precision weapons either. They are very effective against other humans, but I wouldn't haul one around if there were zombies abound!
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