1. Like many have mentioned, D2 had pvp and it was popular. No, it wasn't a main mechanic of the game itself since Diablo is a pve based game but pvp offered a side activity that was fun. I've been playing Diablo since the begining and have great memories of both gear farming in groups and doing pvp battles. Im all for PvP and im excited for it's release....not for it being an e-sport though, not because im against it but I just don't see Blizzard balacing heros and creating more skill/build diversity any time soon.
2. One of the main reasons I bought D3 was for the PvP Blizzard promised. Yes, I still play the game because im aware that Diablo is a pve hack n' slash at heart. Yes, I always knew PvP would never be a key feature of the game. I was looking forward to playing a new Diablo title that offered a great pve end-game environment and some side PvP activities to keep me sane from all the farming. Why has Blizzard failed at providing a proper end-game environment and some PvP funzies?
My conclusion:
I love Diablo 3 and do my best to support it outside and in-game....yet the game still lacks a SHIT LOAD of feautures for a 2012 game release, pvp and pve related. Im aware Blizzard is doing their best to fix their failure and I have faith. In the meantime I don't really play that much, maybe a few hours a week. I hope in the near future we will see things like ACTUAL skill diversity throughout classes (promised by Blizzard during development) and some PvP fun. Keep Blizzard on their feet with positive feedback and maybe those jerks won't let us down a second time! Diablo 3 release was a huge let down for me personally, but Blizzard is know for fixing their shit aka WoW.
all you said is cool bro, but dont u want to own some noobs after 500 or more pve gameplay and just have 1 more awesome way of having fun in this game?
There are no "noobs", there are just people who invested less time/money. If you put a considerable amount of time or money in a D3 character, you take the default cookie cutter build from a forum of your choice, smash buttons 1-4 and mouse buttons at random and you're just as good as anyone.
And I personally don't need to "own" someone to have fun. If me and my mates "own" uber bosses by kicking their asses, we have fun enough.
if u ask me (5-year experience as MobA player), Diablo has potential to be an eSport - for viewer's perspective these fast paced 'teamfights' will be pretty interesting to watch and RTS camera allows putting on good commentary
its like MobA game with farming factor outside of the show
Even playing the game scares off some people, imagine then trying to figure it out while watching... Gave a WD to an old D2 RL friend of mine for a few hours... He kept asking "Where am I, where am I?" the first ten minutes. No, this is not how a spectator game looks like. This is worse than WoW arena.
He's not lying, you are. Or, to put it another way, you're taking your experience with the game and making it everyone's.
PvP was a relatively minor feature in D2; the majority of people that bought that game (like me) never even touched bnet, let alone PvP.
He's not lying, you are. Or, to put it another way, you're taking your experience with the game and making it everyone's.
PvE was a relatively minor feature in D2; the majority of people that bought that game (like me) were always on bnet, doing PVP.
See? It works the other way too... don't think, that since you and all yr friends dont't like something, it means that it's useless, or a "minor feature"...
Oh come on! At least don't lie! PVP was a Huge feature in D2. Even the D2 Beta was packed of Pvper. Couldn't you see all the PVP game in the game list? Pvper even had unofficial naming convention to help you find a pvp game: Duel, Duels, Duelss, Duelss,....... Dueling, Duel now,.... were always full and active.
God damn I miss the sound when someone was click the pvp button in town. I would go outside town and wait for that little #$#)(*!! I could feel the adrenaline pumping. Dude, it was intense. hehe
He's not lying, you are. Or, to put it another way, you're taking your experience with the game and making it everyone's.
PvP was a relatively minor feature in D2; the majority of people that bought that game (like me) never even touched bnet, let alone PvP.
PVP was a major feature in D2. No clue what your talking about.
If it wasn't for pvp i bet the 'majority' of players would have stopped playing due to boredom within 3-4 months of playing.
The hostile button was a magical button. From, duels to pking.
I mean really, i bet more than half the player base pvpd in some way, shape or form. Im not really debating this, im just stating the obvious.
Diablo was always less about skill; it's about killing millions of monsters and collecting loot. And it was designed such that it can be played by anyone who knows how to use a mouse.
...Cool story. How much PVP did you do in diablo 2? Probably none by that comment.
A skilled pvp'r in D2 could give you his 'BEST' gear... Run over to Charsi, buy some vendor trash and still win easily. I kid you not because i used to naked duel in FFA games....
And I personally don't need to "own" someone to have fun. If me and my mates "own" uber bosses by kicking their asses, we have fun enough.
You sound like a noob...lol. GoooOood For YouuUUuu!
I used to Necro vs Necro against great players in private games all night long just for the love of great duels. There was nothing but respect for each other and we learned alot.
Please,,, Shut up. PvM is that way------------------>
Nothing worse then some guy with no love for pvp trying to make some pointless point about why pvp shouldn't exist.
PVP was a major feature in D2. No clue what your talking about.
If it wasn't for pvp i bet the 'majority' of players would have stopped playing due to boredom within 3-4 months of playing.
The hostile button was a magical button. From, duels to pking.
I mean really, i bet more than half the player base pvpd in some way, shape or form. Im not really debating this, im just stating the obvious.
Yeah... you're just stating the obvious. The obvious fact, that you have a very self-centered view. If PvP was a major feature, why has Blizzard focused on PvM features with almost every D2 patch? Why is there still no PvP at all in D3? Think about it.
And about your "guess" that more than half the players played D2 just because of PvP - sorry, but just go to any D2 forum, and look at the threads. The PvP sections are always smaller - and this is even though every thread which is remotely related to PvP is moved to that forum. If your claim was true, these forums would be flooded with content. I guess we'll never get an official figure, but your claim has absolutely no evidence.
Diablo was always less about skill; it's about killing millions of monsters and collecting loot. And it was designed such that it can be played by anyone who knows how to use a mouse.
...Cool story. How much PVP did you do in diablo 2? Probably none by that comment.
Yep, none. If you had actually read other comments, including the original first post of this thread, you would have known this.
And I personally don't need to "own" someone to have fun. If me and my mates "own" uber bosses by kicking their asses, we have fun enough.
You sound like a noob...lol. GoooOood For YouuUUuu!
I used to Necro vs Necro against great players in private games all night long just for the love of great duels. There was nothing but respect for each other and we learned alot.
Please,,, Shut up. PvM is that way------------------>
Nothing worse then some guy with no love for pvp trying to make some pointles spoint about why pvp shouldn't exist.
Nothing worse then some guy with no love for the original idea of this game trying to make some pointless point about why this game should be turned into the same shit like every other game out there.
If you like PvP, it's your opinion, but please refrain from insulting me just because I don't share your view about seeing each other player as noob if they're not as awesome as me.
PVP was a major feature in D2. No clue what your talking about.
If it wasn't for pvp i bet the 'majority' of players would have stopped playing due to boredom within 3-4 months of playing.
The hostile button was a magical button. From, duels to pking.
I mean really, i bet more than half the player base pvpd in some way, shape or form. Im not really debating this, im just stating the obvious.
Yeah... you're just stating the obvious. The obvious fact, that you have a very self-centered view. If PvP was a major feature, why has Blizzard focused on PvM features with almost every D2 patch? Why is there still no PvP at all in D3? Think about it.
And about your "guess" that more than half the players played D2 just because of PvP - sorry, but just go to any D2 forum, and look at the threads. The PvP sections are always smaller - and this is even though every thread which is remotely related to PvP is moved to that forum. If your claim was true, these forums would be flooded with content. I guess we'll never get an official figure, but your claim has absolutely no evidence.
Diablo was always less about skill; it's about killing millions of monsters and collecting loot. And it was designed such that it can be played by anyone who knows how to use a mouse.
...Cool story. How much PVP did you do in diablo 2? Probably none by that comment.
Yep, none. If you had actually read other comments, including the original first post of this thread, you would have known this.
And I personally don't need to "own" someone to have fun. If me and my mates "own" uber bosses by kicking their asses, we have fun enough.
You sound like a noob...lol. GoooOood For YouuUUuu!
I used to Necro vs Necro against great players in private games all night long just for the love of great duels. There was nothing but respect for each other and we learned alot.
Please,,, Shut up. PvM is that way------------------>
Nothing worse then some guy with no love for pvp trying to make some pointles spoint about why pvp shouldn't exist.
Nothing worse then some guy with no love for the original idea of this game trying to make some pointless point about why this game should be turned into the same shit like every other game out there.
If you like PvP, it's your opinion, but please refrain from insulting me just because I don't share your view about seeing each other player as noob if they're not as awesome as me.
BLAH BLAH BLAH. Only reasons theres no pvp in D3 is because Jay Wilson is tooo stupid to give us a duel button. Hes like you i guess... Clueless.
Also..
Please point me to the PVM part of the forum so i can whine about PvM being pointless and Diablos all about PVP....lol?
See, you don't pvp... So your opinion about PVP is a pointless fart in the wind.
And besides your a NOOB because you don't pvp yet have a crap TON of stuff to say about it. Thats what makes you a noob, its got nothing to do with being awesome.
Is there anything else you have no experience with that you have a HUGE opinion about? DurrHh
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2. One of the main reasons I bought D3 was for the PvP Blizzard promised. Yes, I still play the game because im aware that Diablo is a pve hack n' slash at heart. Yes, I always knew PvP would never be a key feature of the game. I was looking forward to playing a new Diablo title that offered a great pve end-game environment and some side PvP activities to keep me sane from all the farming. Why has Blizzard failed at providing a proper end-game environment and some PvP funzies?
My conclusion:
I love Diablo 3 and do my best to support it outside and in-game....yet the game still lacks a SHIT LOAD of feautures for a 2012 game release, pvp and pve related. Im aware Blizzard is doing their best to fix their failure and I have faith. In the meantime I don't really play that much, maybe a few hours a week. I hope in the near future we will see things like ACTUAL skill diversity throughout classes (promised by Blizzard during development) and some PvP fun. Keep Blizzard on their feet with positive feedback and maybe those jerks won't let us down a second time! Diablo 3 release was a huge let down for me personally, but Blizzard is know for fixing their shit aka WoW.
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ModeratorThere are no "noobs", there are just people who invested less time/money. If you put a considerable amount of time or money in a D3 character, you take the default cookie cutter build from a forum of your choice, smash buttons 1-4 and mouse buttons at random and you're just as good as anyone.
And I personally don't need to "own" someone to have fun. If me and my mates "own" uber bosses by kicking their asses, we have fun enough.
Even playing the game scares off some people, imagine then trying to figure it out while watching... Gave a WD to an old D2 RL friend of mine for a few hours... He kept asking "Where am I, where am I?" the first ten minutes. No, this is not how a spectator game looks like. This is worse than WoW arena.
He's not lying, you are. Or, to put it another way, you're taking your experience with the game and making it everyone's.
PvE was a relatively minor feature in D2; the majority of people that bought that game (like me) were always on bnet, doing PVP.
See? It works the other way too... don't think, that since you and all yr friends dont't like something, it means that it's useless, or a "minor feature"...
PVP was a major feature in D2. No clue what your talking about.
If it wasn't for pvp i bet the 'majority' of players would have stopped playing due to boredom within 3-4 months of playing.
The hostile button was a magical button. From, duels to pking.
I mean really, i bet more than half the player base pvpd in some way, shape or form. Im not really debating this, im just stating the obvious.
...Cool story. How much PVP did you do in diablo 2? Probably none by that comment.
A skilled pvp'r in D2 could give you his 'BEST' gear... Run over to Charsi, buy some vendor trash and still win easily. I kid you not because i used to naked duel in FFA games....
You sound like a noob...lol. GoooOood For YouuUUuu!
I used to Necro vs Necro against great players in private games all night long just for the love of great duels. There was nothing but respect for each other and we learned alot.
Please,,, Shut up. PvM is that way------------------>
Nothing worse then some guy with no love for pvp trying to make some pointless point about why pvp shouldn't exist.
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ModeratorYeah... you're just stating the obvious. The obvious fact, that you have a very self-centered view. If PvP was a major feature, why has Blizzard focused on PvM features with almost every D2 patch? Why is there still no PvP at all in D3? Think about it.
And about your "guess" that more than half the players played D2 just because of PvP - sorry, but just go to any D2 forum, and look at the threads. The PvP sections are always smaller - and this is even though every thread which is remotely related to PvP is moved to that forum. If your claim was true, these forums would be flooded with content. I guess we'll never get an official figure, but your claim has absolutely no evidence.
Yep, none. If you had actually read other comments, including the original first post of this thread, you would have known this.
Nothing worse then some guy with no love for the original idea of this game trying to make some pointless point about why this game should be turned into the same shit like every other game out there.
If you like PvP, it's your opinion, but please refrain from insulting me just because I don't share your view about seeing each other player as noob if they're not as awesome as me.
BLAH BLAH BLAH. Only reasons theres no pvp in D3 is because Jay Wilson is tooo stupid to give us a duel button. Hes like you i guess... Clueless.
Also..
Please point me to the PVM part of the forum so i can whine about PvM being pointless and Diablos all about PVP....lol?
See, you don't pvp... So your opinion about PVP is a pointless fart in the wind.
And besides your a NOOB because you don't pvp yet have a crap TON of stuff to say about it. Thats what makes you a noob, its got nothing to do with being awesome.
Is there anything else you have no experience with that you have a HUGE opinion about? DurrHh