The guy has a lot of time, when people in general don't, so he asks for a system that rewards gear through time spent so he will be able to claim himself better than others simply by having a lot of free time.
A system that allows to buy from people who have time (or insane luck) will put him back to a random unknown guy state, which he doesn't like much.
TL/DR : he asks for a system that allows him to shine thanks to the only thing he has over others : free time
i shouldnt dignify this with a response, but i have been sucked in to it. You don't know me, you can't presume shit about me. I wouldn't play any more than any other diablo fan, i can't beleive you are even making that argument, what a dickhead. You completely ignore my points and go straight to insulting me in a condescending way. these forums are for presenting opinions, if all you have to say is opinion bashing, then you are cancer, and should go jump off a bridge. thanks.
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Except you farm money IRL. It's called a job. It's just as monotonous as continually slaying monsters over and over.
How is it cheating? The items aren't in circulation until they're found. A person has an option to
I) Keep the item
II) Give it to a friend
III) Sell it for gold
IV) Sell it for money
V) Destroy it
None of those are in any way cheating. Cheating is acting dishonorably or doing something unfair to give you an advantage.
Everybody has access to real money. If you can't afford it - don't bitch at others. It's not our fault you landed the job you're in, knocked up a woman and had 4 kids sucking child support from you, etc. It's asinine logic.
im 20, and i have a job, i could pay for it. that's got nothing to do with my opinion on the RMAH lol. Also i never personally attacked anyone, i was arguing my opinion without going all ad hominem, which everyone has done to me. I hear what you are saying about item circulation and how the item has to go somewhere, like i said earlier, im all for trading, i just think real money shouldnt be brought into it. it gives an unfair advantage to the person who buys it. unfair because another person (not saying its me...) might not be able to afford to buy any good items, and a rich guy can. In my mind, buying it for money is cheating. i know some people agree with me, i dont care if there arent, and i dont care that people disagree with my opinion either, im posting this to produce discussion on D3 and provide the forums with another opinion. im not mad at anyone for anything they have said at me either, just saying. I like that conversation can get so heated over such a trivial topic, says a lot for Diablo lol
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White knight mode activated much? its my personal feelings and nothing you said changes my mind, if you think its an ego problem, then maybe it is, i dont really care lol. The way i see it, if you buy an item off the RMAH, you didnt earn it. you could make the argument that the money they spent, they probably earned, and by extension they earned the item, but its too disconnected IMO, whats in the game is in the game, bringing real money into it gives people advantages that they normally wouldnt have. Ding you hit 60, you pay 30 bucks, have full gear. that is just shit IMO lol.
I frequent this site a lot, i have read pretty much every blue post worth linking since D3 was announced, i have an (i would say) intimate understanding of the philosophies behind D3's development. I get that if the RMAH didnt exist, third party sites would crop up just like D2jsp and it would happen like in D2, which i don't want. i do understand that its pretty much required that Blizz added the RMAH to counter this. What i am saying is that IN. MY. OPINION. the people who are going to use the RMAH (buying or selling, but im talking about buying atm) aren't earning those items. The same way it was shit that people bought off D2jsp, its shit that they are going to buy off this. Its a pointless argument in that nothing can stop the greed and impatience of people, they will find a way to cheat items. I am all for trading items for other items, or gold, because its artbitrary, you can go farm items and gold. not everyone has RL money to spend on digital items.
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I personally could care less about what other people do regarding the game. I know that I will have earned the gear that I have, and I don't need someone else's confirmation to feel accomplished.
yeah i definitely see that point of view as well, i'm only venting, it's not going to ruin the whole game for me or anything, i just always liked that part about WoW, and many other games too, that if you get an item, generally it means you earned it. i mean ninja looting, and paying guilds to run you things did exist yeah, but the majority didn't do that. Like i said i would be happy if it was mentioned on the item somewhere, that it was bought with RL money. You can't deny that part of the reason you play online with other people is so you can compare and show off your character, if you only wanted a 60 char with good gear, and didn't care about bragging rights at all, chances are you will be playing single player mode.
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enigma. being in australia means that i can never cast tele as fast as my fcr lets me because i will end up teleing to the same. spot. like 3 times before moving anywhere. So it's useless for me. Also, buying items. im pissed off that the RMAH even exists, i think its BS that people can just buy items for a dollar it takes ALL the fun out of end game, cause you know there will be people walking around in full sets because mummy gave them 20 bucks. pisses me off thinking about it. I would be happy if Blizz put a big sign on the bottom of the item in inspect saying BOUGHT OFF RMAH or something. so you know who actually plays the game properly
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i shouldnt dignify this with a response, but i have been sucked in to it. You don't know me, you can't presume shit about me. I wouldn't play any more than any other diablo fan, i can't beleive you are even making that argument, what a dickhead. You completely ignore my points and go straight to insulting me in a condescending way. these forums are for presenting opinions, if all you have to say is opinion bashing, then you are cancer, and should go jump off a bridge. thanks.
im 20, and i have a job, i could pay for it. that's got nothing to do with my opinion on the RMAH lol. Also i never personally attacked anyone, i was arguing my opinion without going all ad hominem, which everyone has done to me. I hear what you are saying about item circulation and how the item has to go somewhere, like i said earlier, im all for trading, i just think real money shouldnt be brought into it. it gives an unfair advantage to the person who buys it. unfair because another person (not saying its me...) might not be able to afford to buy any good items, and a rich guy can. In my mind, buying it for money is cheating. i know some people agree with me, i dont care if there arent, and i dont care that people disagree with my opinion either, im posting this to produce discussion on D3 and provide the forums with another opinion. im not mad at anyone for anything they have said at me either, just saying. I like that conversation can get so heated over such a trivial topic, says a lot for Diablo lol
White knight mode activated much? its my personal feelings and nothing you said changes my mind, if you think its an ego problem, then maybe it is, i dont really care lol. The way i see it, if you buy an item off the RMAH, you didnt earn it. you could make the argument that the money they spent, they probably earned, and by extension they earned the item, but its too disconnected IMO, whats in the game is in the game, bringing real money into it gives people advantages that they normally wouldnt have. Ding you hit 60, you pay 30 bucks, have full gear. that is just shit IMO lol.
I frequent this site a lot, i have read pretty much every blue post worth linking since D3 was announced, i have an (i would say) intimate understanding of the philosophies behind D3's development. I get that if the RMAH didnt exist, third party sites would crop up just like D2jsp and it would happen like in D2, which i don't want. i do understand that its pretty much required that Blizz added the RMAH to counter this. What i am saying is that IN. MY. OPINION. the people who are going to use the RMAH (buying or selling, but im talking about buying atm) aren't earning those items. The same way it was shit that people bought off D2jsp, its shit that they are going to buy off this. Its a pointless argument in that nothing can stop the greed and impatience of people, they will find a way to cheat items. I am all for trading items for other items, or gold, because its artbitrary, you can go farm items and gold. not everyone has RL money to spend on digital items.
yeah i definitely see that point of view as well, i'm only venting, it's not going to ruin the whole game for me or anything, i just always liked that part about WoW, and many other games too, that if you get an item, generally it means you earned it. i mean ninja looting, and paying guilds to run you things did exist yeah, but the majority didn't do that. Like i said i would be happy if it was mentioned on the item somewhere, that it was bought with RL money. You can't deny that part of the reason you play online with other people is so you can compare and show off your character, if you only wanted a 60 char with good gear, and didn't care about bragging rights at all, chances are you will be playing single player mode.