True, but just because you cause someone to hurt mentally is much different than physically. And in the situation of suicide, there are cases where it has a religious perpous to some religions, whether it be now or a religion in the future. I still say that if its not for religous purposes that it remain illegal but I'm telling you right now if my religion said that suicide was the only way to get to heaven and the government told me i couldnt kill myself.
1) id still kill myself
2) it would be messed up that they would try to stop me from doing it.
I see, but should we take another look at suicide, for just the sake of its religious aspects? You arent hurting anyone except yourself, its for religion (if thats actually what you were saying it was for, as like a ritual), and anyone can actually commit suicide, even though its illegal, to me its different from stealing even though anyone can do that also, and i think you see why.
I'm not saying suicide is a good thing, but should the government stop it for religions sake?? or "try" to stop it.
See, I understand government intervention if a religous group were posing a threat to themselves or others. For example, take the Heaven's Gate group back in 1997. Granted, I don't think anyone realized what the group was planning, but still, intervention could have possibly prevented the mass suicides.
Hypocritical. If the government wants to tell me what currency to use or how fast I can drive, then fine. I'll obey. But don't you dare tell me what my religious beliefs are "supposed" to be. I don't care if they're mainstream or not, just stay the hell away from individual rights.
Your being a little hippocritical, i think we can all understand if a religion is
hurting innocent people then yes thats messed up. But should the government step in and stop suicide if thats your belief, you aren't hurting anyone but yourself, for religion. Although maybe im being hippocritical about them hurting people if thats what they believe, but to me that shouldn't be aloud, which in a sence is hippocritical i guess. heh touchy subject.
The reason I find laws like that hypocritical
(and maybe that was the wrong word to use) is because America was founded
on certain beliefs and freedoms, yet state governments are taking it upon
themselves to tell people what they may or may not do as far as religious
beliefs are concerned. It's like saying that you're allowed to like any
color you want, except you can only choose been blue and green (not the
greatest example, but I'm not a very good debater, so bear with me, lol).
Maybe 'too restrictive' was the phrase I was looking for.
Exactly, let's take another look at Waco, Texas. A guy made a religous group of about 100
people, stockpiling guns, food, ammo, and water, for an apoctolyptic setting which
he believed would happen. He said he was the "sinful Jesus" so on judgement day he would
know all the sinful things people had to go through. He taught he was sumpreme ruler
(not much different then the pope imo). Time went on, and no apparent reason other then
complete suspicion that they were turning legal weapons into illegal fully automatic
weapons and that he was inopropriately messing with young children. There was no
evidence whatsoever and what do you know, what happens?
No, the local police didnt check it out, not even someone like the FBI, although neither
had a reason or imo a legal right to invade, the ATF of all people invaded his "fort"
which was actually his church builidng. And the gunfighting started. You all know the story
probably, and thats the jist of it, the cult fell apart pretty much, im not to sure what
heppened to him, i think he went to a mental institution? Eh anyways...
Now im not saying i believe his teachings by any means, but, if that can happen then it can
just as easily happen to Christianity or any other religous group. Your probably thinking,
no way, he was a small "cult" and that could never happen. Well if the ATF can do that
and not have any charges against them, then what would stop the government? such as FBI.
Although this is different than the small prohibiting of things such as palm reading,
it could be the beggining of another Waco situation, going farther, and stretching out to
"mainstream" religion, if you can call it that.
"oh but they are just doing it because it's a scam" Well was this so-called "cult" of Waco
a scam? For some people out there doing palm readings and such, they truly believe they are
real and true.