It's weird because there are things that will most likely never go away; terrorism, unfortunately, will never go away. Poverty, unfortunately, will never go away. Drug use, unfortunately, will never go away.
These efforts are seemingly futile. We're only putting bandages on weathered scars.
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The only thing I agree with Ron Paul on is ending the War on Drugs.
I'm all for social libertarianism, but a lot of his economic policies just don't click with me and nobody in the house or senate will risk ending the war on drugs at the risk of their political career.
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Where have you been? Ralph Nader always put fuckers to shame. He told it like it was and he spoke very plainly on the truth and that's why everyone else in politics hated him and portrayed him in the media as a liberal whacko.
Aye, forgot about Nader.
I wish more people voted for Nader. He did great things in the 60s that people today take for granted (safety regulations for automobiles), many people should take this into account and realize that there are people who truly care about the wellbeing of Americans.
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Well, I hope this country cuts off the deadliest of both tumors before it's too late.
I can't trust Democrats the way I used to. I take everything that Obama says now with a grain of salt. I take everything a Republican says with a pound of arsenic though.
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I wish a hardened badass with a backbone would come out of the Green Party and put all these fuckers to shame.
/my wildest dream
Edit: I think that, when it comes down to it, how one consumes pot relates to their maturity and their sense of responsibility. A lack of both, in my eyes, creates a deadbeat.
I'm all for legalizing and I am very much aware of the prejudice that people have towards marijuana. I know a friend of mine who won't even touch it, hates it, and has never tried. I would never, ever try to make her use it because I don't believe in forcing anything on anybody.
And, yes, deadbeats are a nuisance. I hate the guys who are just all about weed. It's annoying and it's draining on the mind, it's just ugly, childish behavior. I haven't smoked it in a year (since two days ago), but I still feel like it's something that I'd like to do. Even before I "stopped," I only smoked it like 4 times. I have been offered many times and I have turned down many offers because I know that I had obligations to attend to.
I think, in that sense, if you want to have legal marijuana, you have to put a lot of faith in the idea that people won't be idiots with it. People are idiots with alcohol too, so I guess they're one in the same in that aspect that they are easily abused by people who don't fucking know better.
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For any of you paying attention in US politics, you know that there's more budget talks going on. Do you think it'll go down the same way as last time or will they (and I say this with a staggering amount of sarcasm) pull their heads out of their asses and realize that you just can't cut an inch of the deficit and say "that's all we can do."
Also, HR 2306, proposed by Barney Frank and Ron Paul, seeks to remove marijuana from any federal supervision and jurisdiction, placing any marijuana related law into the hands of the states. Anybody in the US have any opinion on this and any predictions as to how this shit will play out? (I have some hopes, but I know that the House of Representatives is a hellhole for any reasonable discussion about marijuana, so I don't expect it to make it past first plate.)
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If the financial system died, that would make the Vandals' ransacking of Rome a nice walk in the park. It would be anarchy, not anything according to anyones terms. Our entire civilization would be at peril. More than likely, this scenario would result in a totalitarian nanny state, not the other way around.The system works, but it is sometimes faced with a shock because of retarded politics. With this type of options (anarchy vs. slowly developing the current system) I'd personally choose the latter any day.
The financial system is the only thing that's very, very hard to take down; at one point in time, we have x amount of worth in the value of any given currency and that amounted makes up the sum of the wealth of the entire world. That wealth will not just disappear, it will just go somewhere else. In a world without currency, wealth is shown by material goods and not in currency; the only thing that gives a currency value is the country behind it, and not ideally either, but people looking in decide what that is worth. If people believe in the strength of your country, they will hold your currency to a certain respect.
I would much rather prefer to build upon a system than abandon it completely. I'm not afraid of anarchy, I just think it's highly irrational and, frankly, quite stupid. I think the whole idea of Anarchy is that you don't need a ruling body to establish the boundaries of your life, which I agree with to an extent; I would love to live as my own country, but that is probably never going to happen because every square meter of land has been occupied in some way. If I live in the U.S, I have to pay taxes, it's as simple as that and I have no problem paying taxes (even though I don't because I don't own property), but I wish that I could choose to live without certain rules in my life that restrict freedoms that I want to have. I wish I could buy them, that's what I really wish. I give the government x amount of wealth and they give me a freedom of my choice. Of course I expect there to be restrictions to what I can't do, even if I do choose to buy it, but certain freedoms should be allowed to be bought.
Freedoms that shouldn't be able to be purchased:
- Freedom to enslave
- Freedom to kill people
- Freedom to vandalize
- Freedom to steal without consequence
- Basically any freedom that has the ability to harm others or infringe upon their own rights
I would certainly buy the freedom to allow the use of marijuana, I would do that in a heartbeat. That's where that whole idea originated, can I just buy the right to use marijuana and you don't come knocking on my door with cuffs and throw me in the back of your car?
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I'm not ashamed to be an American; I'm just ashamed to share the same land with fucking ass-hats.
I don't feel even a semblance of patriotism on the 4th of July and I don't think I ever have. Sure, there is probably a diehard patriot out there who dons 18th century attire and sings the Star Spangled Banner every time a mortar goes off. He probably burnishes a bayonet too just for the hell of it.
I could draw comparisons between America and Jonestown, but I won't because Jonestown was a beast of it's own nature. All I will say is that I hope people can actually look at the outside world, do some fucking research, and realize that there are better options than living in America. I'd rather move to the Baltic states and take everyone I ever loved with me.
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Patriotism is the ultimate form of pathos. It even surpasses your crying mother and the death of innocent children.
When I kiss the flag of the United States of America, I am actually kissing every crackpot policy that that flag has ever put forth. The reason why they make us start pledging at such a young age is so that we don't, someday, pledge allegiance to another banner as we grow older and realize that the state is not right. They make us recite them before we even understand what they mean.
"I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."
That was the original pledge of allegiance written in 1892. Now, here's the 1954 version:
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
Before, you were just pledging allegiance to an idea. Now, you're pledging allegiance to a body.
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Honestly I think marijuana legalization is the smallest issue facing America in these troubled times.
I would agree, but it's incredibly wasteful and stupid for the government to continue this entirely hypocritical policy of constriction of individual choice.
And lobbyists aren't necessarily bad; those who lobby for the advantage of the few over the many are the ones to look out for. Minorities can be represented, sure (and I'm not talking race), but the extent to which they are represented cannot exceed the will of the majority, which, frankly, is what has happened in the U.S; you have the very rich vying for the continuation of policies that benefit them over the common American and it is fundamentally self-destructive.
I'm waiting for the day when oil becomes so expensive that it's obsolete and people finally start seriously investing in more renewable energy sources. The costs of importing oil, the strain on the American consumer, almost completely eliminated. In my opinion, it is clearly more economically beneficial to pay little for energy and have a continuous, clean source than to pay more for oil that is constantly affected by the market.
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The thing is although marijuana legalization is being seen as more and more popular every decade, the people aren't going to vote for Ron Paul. He will get chewed up in the primaries and, consequently, his probable presidential candidacy won't see the light of day.
The legalization movement has to be a larger populist movement for it to gain any real footing. I will say that the reason why it isn't gaining much footing is because of the common stereotype that people who support MJ legalization are just looking to get high. I don't necessarily agree, but I can see where they get that because there is a massive credibility gap there. I mean, you can tout the practical uses of cannabis all you want, but if you don't look like an outstanding individual, you're probably not going to sway my opinion. So, in order for this movement to get any further, the face of the movement has to change from the drug being used to the people getting thrown in jail because they made a choice that they think suited them.
It would be absolutely ridiculous to throw tobacco smokers in jail because they made choices similar to the ones that marijuana smokers make; they smoke. They're two different drugs and they effect the person in very different ways, but the recipient of the effects is always different; marijuana doesn't work like a skeleton key and won't get the same results out of everybody. Some people who smoke marijuana are at risk for increased anxiety, but a majority of people don't experience this. It is inherently stupid to keep it illegal because of its core effects without taking into account the medical backgrounds of the millions of people who do. It's the government telling us what's best for us and, almost always, that's not what's best because the government doesn't actually know you as a person or a human being. They just assume that what's good for some is good for many, but the reality is that nobody knows what is good for the majority, so it's better to not even approach this shit in the first place; it's the epitome of negative social engineering and arrogance.
All I want is for this movement to succeed so we can stop throwing innocent people in jail at the expense of our tax dollars. We're practically shoveling our money to this dipshit lawyers who can't wait to make their payload on common misfortunes. The government is infringing on the peace of ordinary people who choose to smoke a substance that is, arguably, less dangerous than tobacco and alcohol. I think that's injustice. I think I'll never stop talking about this as long as it's an issue.
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So I just found this. Scandinavian countries make the top 5 most trusted countries when it comes to economics and, here's the kicker, they trust them more because they don't have as much wealth inequity as the United States does.
But, yeah, I just thought I'd tout Scandinavian supremacy once more. I'm glad to see Estonia in there too.
Edit: I think that, if the American Tea Party was serious about what they were preaching, they'd order their elected officials to end the drug war. Why? Because that's another way to reduce the size of government.
Or, at least, vote to take cannabis off schedule 1 which is where meth and heroin are situated. I find it kind of counter-intuitive that cocaine is on schedule 2 and yet it's even more harmful than marijuana. Marijuana is the biggest cash crop in the US, they should be jumping on this right now if the Republicans are squeezing the government's balls over deficits. $33 billion just from marijuana and that isn't taking into account taxation. I assume that that figure is just based off street prices.
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Essentially, what I got from that is that the government places a monopoly on freedom. I don't necessarily agree with that point, but I do agree with the fact that their government, sometimes, sticks their nose in where it doesn't belong (for example, the War on Drugs).
I also believe that there should be a team that investigates the premise of any stock-market speculation strategy consisting of independent, skilled economists. If the proposed speculation fits a certain bill of safety and the risk of backlash is minimal, than it can occur. That is as much freedom as I'm willing to give these speculating pigs.
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Paul Ryan is, quite arguably, the worst VP pick anyone could've imagined. Have fun losing Florida, Mitt.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
These efforts are seemingly futile. We're only putting bandages on weathered scars.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
I'm all for social libertarianism, but a lot of his economic policies just don't click with me and nobody in the house or senate will risk ending the war on drugs at the risk of their political career.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
If the Green Party got a new face, that could possibly make the public a little more... public?
And I wouldn't be surprised if Nader didn't run. Guy's older than McCain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHhgllqSKro&NR=1
Edit: Here's a good read.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
Aye, forgot about Nader.
I wish more people voted for Nader. He did great things in the 60s that people today take for granted (safety regulations for automobiles), many people should take this into account and realize that there are people who truly care about the wellbeing of Americans.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
I can't trust Democrats the way I used to. I take everything that Obama says now with a grain of salt. I take everything a Republican says with a pound of arsenic though.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
/my wildest dream
Edit: I think that, when it comes down to it, how one consumes pot relates to their maturity and their sense of responsibility. A lack of both, in my eyes, creates a deadbeat.
I'm all for legalizing and I am very much aware of the prejudice that people have towards marijuana. I know a friend of mine who won't even touch it, hates it, and has never tried. I would never, ever try to make her use it because I don't believe in forcing anything on anybody.
And, yes, deadbeats are a nuisance. I hate the guys who are just all about weed. It's annoying and it's draining on the mind, it's just ugly, childish behavior. I haven't smoked it in a year (since two days ago), but I still feel like it's something that I'd like to do. Even before I "stopped," I only smoked it like 4 times. I have been offered many times and I have turned down many offers because I know that I had obligations to attend to.
I think, in that sense, if you want to have legal marijuana, you have to put a lot of faith in the idea that people won't be idiots with it. People are idiots with alcohol too, so I guess they're one in the same in that aspect that they are easily abused by people who don't fucking know better.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
For any of you paying attention in US politics, you know that there's more budget talks going on. Do you think it'll go down the same way as last time or will they (and I say this with a staggering amount of sarcasm) pull their heads out of their asses and realize that you just can't cut an inch of the deficit and say "that's all we can do."
Also, HR 2306, proposed by Barney Frank and Ron Paul, seeks to remove marijuana from any federal supervision and jurisdiction, placing any marijuana related law into the hands of the states. Anybody in the US have any opinion on this and any predictions as to how this shit will play out? (I have some hopes, but I know that the House of Representatives is a hellhole for any reasonable discussion about marijuana, so I don't expect it to make it past first plate.)
Edit for typos.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
The financial system is the only thing that's very, very hard to take down; at one point in time, we have x amount of worth in the value of any given currency and that amounted makes up the sum of the wealth of the entire world. That wealth will not just disappear, it will just go somewhere else. In a world without currency, wealth is shown by material goods and not in currency; the only thing that gives a currency value is the country behind it, and not ideally either, but people looking in decide what that is worth. If people believe in the strength of your country, they will hold your currency to a certain respect.
I would much rather prefer to build upon a system than abandon it completely. I'm not afraid of anarchy, I just think it's highly irrational and, frankly, quite stupid. I think the whole idea of Anarchy is that you don't need a ruling body to establish the boundaries of your life, which I agree with to an extent; I would love to live as my own country, but that is probably never going to happen because every square meter of land has been occupied in some way. If I live in the U.S, I have to pay taxes, it's as simple as that and I have no problem paying taxes (even though I don't because I don't own property), but I wish that I could choose to live without certain rules in my life that restrict freedoms that I want to have. I wish I could buy them, that's what I really wish. I give the government x amount of wealth and they give me a freedom of my choice. Of course I expect there to be restrictions to what I can't do, even if I do choose to buy it, but certain freedoms should be allowed to be bought.
Freedoms that shouldn't be able to be purchased:
- Freedom to enslave
- Freedom to kill people
- Freedom to vandalize
- Freedom to steal without consequence
- Basically any freedom that has the ability to harm others or infringe upon their own rights
I would certainly buy the freedom to allow the use of marijuana, I would do that in a heartbeat. That's where that whole idea originated, can I just buy the right to use marijuana and you don't come knocking on my door with cuffs and throw me in the back of your car?
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
I don't feel even a semblance of patriotism on the 4th of July and I don't think I ever have. Sure, there is probably a diehard patriot out there who dons 18th century attire and sings the Star Spangled Banner every time a mortar goes off. He probably burnishes a bayonet too just for the hell of it.
I could draw comparisons between America and Jonestown, but I won't because Jonestown was a beast of it's own nature. All I will say is that I hope people can actually look at the outside world, do some fucking research, and realize that there are better options than living in America. I'd rather move to the Baltic states and take everyone I ever loved with me.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
When I kiss the flag of the United States of America, I am actually kissing every crackpot policy that that flag has ever put forth. The reason why they make us start pledging at such a young age is so that we don't, someday, pledge allegiance to another banner as we grow older and realize that the state is not right. They make us recite them before we even understand what they mean.
"I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."
That was the original pledge of allegiance written in 1892. Now, here's the 1954 version:
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
Before, you were just pledging allegiance to an idea. Now, you're pledging allegiance to a body.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
I would agree, but it's incredibly wasteful and stupid for the government to continue this entirely hypocritical policy of constriction of individual choice.
And lobbyists aren't necessarily bad; those who lobby for the advantage of the few over the many are the ones to look out for. Minorities can be represented, sure (and I'm not talking race), but the extent to which they are represented cannot exceed the will of the majority, which, frankly, is what has happened in the U.S; you have the very rich vying for the continuation of policies that benefit them over the common American and it is fundamentally self-destructive.
I'm waiting for the day when oil becomes so expensive that it's obsolete and people finally start seriously investing in more renewable energy sources. The costs of importing oil, the strain on the American consumer, almost completely eliminated. In my opinion, it is clearly more economically beneficial to pay little for energy and have a continuous, clean source than to pay more for oil that is constantly affected by the market.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
The legalization movement has to be a larger populist movement for it to gain any real footing. I will say that the reason why it isn't gaining much footing is because of the common stereotype that people who support MJ legalization are just looking to get high. I don't necessarily agree, but I can see where they get that because there is a massive credibility gap there. I mean, you can tout the practical uses of cannabis all you want, but if you don't look like an outstanding individual, you're probably not going to sway my opinion. So, in order for this movement to get any further, the face of the movement has to change from the drug being used to the people getting thrown in jail because they made a choice that they think suited them.
It would be absolutely ridiculous to throw tobacco smokers in jail because they made choices similar to the ones that marijuana smokers make; they smoke. They're two different drugs and they effect the person in very different ways, but the recipient of the effects is always different; marijuana doesn't work like a skeleton key and won't get the same results out of everybody. Some people who smoke marijuana are at risk for increased anxiety, but a majority of people don't experience this. It is inherently stupid to keep it illegal because of its core effects without taking into account the medical backgrounds of the millions of people who do. It's the government telling us what's best for us and, almost always, that's not what's best because the government doesn't actually know you as a person or a human being. They just assume that what's good for some is good for many, but the reality is that nobody knows what is good for the majority, so it's better to not even approach this shit in the first place; it's the epitome of negative social engineering and arrogance.
http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/199804--.htm
All I want is for this movement to succeed so we can stop throwing innocent people in jail at the expense of our tax dollars. We're practically shoveling our money to this dipshit lawyers who can't wait to make their payload on common misfortunes. The government is infringing on the peace of ordinary people who choose to smoke a substance that is, arguably, less dangerous than tobacco and alcohol. I think that's injustice. I think I'll never stop talking about this as long as it's an issue.
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So I just found this. Scandinavian countries make the top 5 most trusted countries when it comes to economics and, here's the kicker, they trust them more because they don't have as much wealth inequity as the United States does.
But, yeah, I just thought I'd tout Scandinavian supremacy once more. I'm glad to see Estonia in there too.
Original story: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/20/trust-wealth_n_851519.html[/spoil]
Edit: I think that, if the American Tea Party was serious about what they were preaching, they'd order their elected officials to end the drug war. Why? Because that's another way to reduce the size of government.
Or, at least, vote to take cannabis off schedule 1 which is where meth and heroin are situated. I find it kind of counter-intuitive that cocaine is on schedule 2 and yet it's even more harmful than marijuana. Marijuana is the biggest cash crop in the US, they should be jumping on this right now if the Republicans are squeezing the government's balls over deficits. $33 billion just from marijuana and that isn't taking into account taxation. I assume that that figure is just based off street prices.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
I also believe that there should be a team that investigates the premise of any stock-market speculation strategy consisting of independent, skilled economists. If the proposed speculation fits a certain bill of safety and the risk of backlash is minimal, than it can occur. That is as much freedom as I'm willing to give these speculating pigs.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence