It is unreasonable to expect a LINEAR progression of loot. It is mathemathically unreasonable, actually.
I never said that I expected a linear loot progression for the entire game, and I agree that it is an unreasonable expectation.
I asked the simple question: How many actual full hours of grinding rifts do you think is acceptable between reasonable upgrades?
So far the only answer I've seen is that months between upgrades is an acceptable timeframe. I disagree.
If the answer can NEVER be months, you've created an impossible scenario. Either they must constantly make better gear, or something else must enter the equation to reduce the quality of your gear. Neither is going to happen, most likely. So you're left with a graph that will clearly demonstrate quality of gear directly correlates (and in this case correlation DOES equal causation) to the time required to get better gear. It is inevitable that such a graph will eventually move from minutes to hours to days to months to yes, even years, if there's only one possible stat on one possible item that you could improve. Hell, it's impossible to make a graph that doesn't essentially end at an infinite time required for an upgrade, simply because the odds of getting that 372% Thunderfury to replace your 371% Thunderfury with perfect stats are just that astronomical.
I got ridiculously lucky and got it from the first A1 cache after I decided "I may as well farm for that ring while getting keys". Keep your spirits up.
Let me just add that the absolutely disgusting attitudes of some of the people posting in this thread are why the majority of people will never post a word. This thread is about Diablo 3 discussion, not about tearing people down for discussing the game.
Good. Posting whining threads about RNG drops has been discussed quite a bit and the consensus among the community is "F#@# that."
He's not discussing. He's shouting, complaining, and whining. As many have said, if it's a post with real points and constructive ideas, it wouldn't be soundly rejected.
The OP certainly isn't wrong, and all the fanboys getting in a line to piss on him because they lack an ounce of empathy is just sad.
So you suggest that even after getting several substantial upgrades, that the upgrades should keep coming? Please explain to me mathematically how such a universe could exist. You do realize that the nature of upgrading your character necessarily reduces the chance for upgrades in the future, right?
It sounds like you're saying "You should get a lot of upgrades even when you have great gear". Sorry but that's quite impossible from a design standpoint.
Well.. there is a WAY to give you what you're asking for, that would be to eliminate the chance for BiS items from anyone not already in T6. Make it so the best item you can get in T1 will only help you get to T4 or so at best. And have items scale up from there. So you get plenty of upgrades at T1, T2, T3, etc..That's not really my idea of a good plan.
Also, once you reached T6 you'd be in the exact same place you're saying it's legitimate to complain about now, where you have good gear but complain about not getting "even better" gear.
It's like seeing green beams, I almost get a heart attack and what is it? Trollthorne obviously! ...
Even worse, the first time you group with a Crusader, and his stupid aura or whatever is constantly making a green beam shoot up into the sky. That drives me nuts.
Not really. There's no way a player like me would get along with a player like you to begin with. People that bitch about drops in Diablo are a pretty specific type of player. There's tons of them, because Diablo as known as a loot whore's game, and it does a good job at rewarding that mentality (For the most part).
The schism of players is between those that argue rationally and complain or act only when given what most would consider evidence and those that complain when they don't get Thunderfury or SoH in the first month of the expansion.
If your post here had any actual metrics of value (Say you gathered the data of 400 of your rift runs, indicating an actual problem that can be demonstrated), then someone like me would read this post, think "Oh, maybe he's got something there", and either move on or look into it myself. Instead, with your whiney childish post that reminds me of a teenager arguing for something, you not only cause me to disregard your "points", you give me a palpable distaste for you and your concerns, particularly because of your apparent willingness to make outrageous and false claims (My account is bugged guyz!).
Case in point - I actually have lurked here for months and created this account to specifically say your thread is shit.
This thread is stupid. RNG is RNG, there are no bugged accounts. Your post is bad and you should stop playing the game if it makes you do bad things.
Also, opening up trading, worst idea possible. Here's what they need to do if they enable trading: Make drops 50x less common. Otherwise welcome to everyone having BiS items in a month.
Ohhhh wait that sounds an awful lot like the horrid situation we had before.
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He's not discussing. He's shouting, complaining, and whining. As many have said, if it's a post with real points and constructive ideas, it wouldn't be soundly rejected.
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It sounds like you're saying "You should get a lot of upgrades even when you have great gear". Sorry but that's quite impossible from a design standpoint.
Well.. there is a WAY to give you what you're asking for, that would be to eliminate the chance for BiS items from anyone not already in T6. Make it so the best item you can get in T1 will only help you get to T4 or so at best. And have items scale up from there. So you get plenty of upgrades at T1, T2, T3, etc..That's not really my idea of a good plan.
Also, once you reached T6 you'd be in the exact same place you're saying it's legitimate to complain about now, where you have good gear but complain about not getting "even better" gear.
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The schism of players is between those that argue rationally and complain or act only when given what most would consider evidence and those that complain when they don't get Thunderfury or SoH in the first month of the expansion.
If your post here had any actual metrics of value (Say you gathered the data of 400 of your rift runs, indicating an actual problem that can be demonstrated), then someone like me would read this post, think "Oh, maybe he's got something there", and either move on or look into it myself. Instead, with your whiney childish post that reminds me of a teenager arguing for something, you not only cause me to disregard your "points", you give me a palpable distaste for you and your concerns, particularly because of your apparent willingness to make outrageous and false claims (My account is bugged guyz!).
Case in point - I actually have lurked here for months and created this account to specifically say your thread is shit.
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Also, opening up trading, worst idea possible. Here's what they need to do if they enable trading: Make drops 50x less common. Otherwise welcome to everyone having BiS items in a month.
Ohhhh wait that sounds an awful lot like the horrid situation we had before.