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I might be getting my own store.

Selling what?

Clothing, electronics, books, generic crap really. Just a retail store.

I'm still excited. Assistant Manager to Store Manager ftw.

I might be getting my own store.

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Isn't Atheism the lack/rejection of belief in deities, hence a-theism? If it isn't deities, what are we rejecting? Would you suggest the term Atheist to reject a belief that Elvis lives?

We are rejecting the ideas put forward by theists as they are demonstrably false. Elvis isn't a proposed deity, so that wouldn't follow. My concern is that A-theism is misrepresented as A-deism. One is certain and the other is probable, but not entirely certain.

Well obviously we reject the theistic deity rather then the deistic deity, otherwise we would be adeists. (Does such a group exist? Now I'm curious! Lol.)

Anyway, I am just pointing out that the Wikipedia article is correct, as it's a specific belief we reject rather then generic belief.

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Anyway, I view Atheism as a rejection of the idea of deities. Personally, I think it's impossible to define it for all Atheists, as it's such a wide-reaching term.

Theists hold a view of gods which are active and order the physical reality we can see and feel. It is easy to disprove them because every time we explain physical phenomena, their god recedes further into the necessary "god of the gaps," position. Rejecting the theist god is easy because it is nothing more than rational. Don't reject reality and substitute the god and you're already an atheist.

However, the deist god is not so easily dismissed. It need not interact with the universe at all. It's just a celestial tea-pot in another dimension. We need not suppose it to exist, but we need not refute it either. As I see it, a deist god is completely inconsequential.

So when it comes down to it the rejection is not of a deity (although we must reject theist deities), but of theism.

Obviously there is the basic "We do not believe that theistic deities exist." stance that defines the umbrella term of Atheist, but, from what I've seen, just like with Christianity's denominations and Islam's sects, Atheism also has many views that fall under the term Atheist. I'm not saying that a religious person could be classified as an Atheist, just that there are many views that fall under the title Atheist.

As for the god of the gaps, according to the pope evolution is true. This means no Adam and Eve, which means no original sin, which means no need for Jesus to come and save us all from said original sin, which means no need for Christianity. >.> That's one helluva gap... Lol!

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Wikipedia's definition of Atheism; however, is easily misinterpreted.

Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities

What should be mentioned here, or at least understood, is that the rejection of BELIEF is foremost and the rejection of DEITIES denotes a rejection of god figures and concepts which are empirically false (ie. the Judeo-Christian god). In the view of the atheist, the universe as we know it functions without such an entity and there is no reason to suppose it exists since the evidence is not there. We do not simply shut our eyes to future knowledge and say "there can be no such thing," but rather we suggest "none of those things you've made up are evident," and we therefor find the concept to have no meaning.

If we were to arbitrarily name anything outside of reality (something that doesn't make much sense in and of itself) "god," it would not fit any definition of the word. A god which has no connection what-so-ever with empirical reality is not a god. Even if it were, there would be no way of knowing about it because it would be absolutely divorced from the reality we inhabit. If there were empirical evidence for some kind of god (befitting the connotations of the word), it would render atheism null and void because no belief would be required in order to know that a deity existed.

Atheists are often lampooned for having a belief of their own (there must be no god), but that is not true of a learned atheist. The group making up a belief of their own is actually the agnostics. Their supposition that mankind can never gain the knowledge necessary to confirm or refute the existence of a "god," or "gods," makes them irrational believers in their own right.

TL;DR: Atheism is the rejection of belief. The statement that we reject "belief in deities," is redundant and misleading.

Isn't Atheism the lack/rejection of belief in deities, hence a-theism? If it isn't deities, what are we rejecting? Would you suggest the term Atheist to reject a belief that Elvis lives?

I'm not being a smartass. I honestly don't understand. You say that Atheism is just a rejection of belief, then go on as to what constitutes godhood. Then you end saying that Atheism is a rejection of beliefs. Perhaps I am simply misunderstanding a simple concept, and considering its 4:15^AM right now that is very possible, but I honestly don't understand what you are trying to say here.

Anyway, I view Atheism as a rejection of the idea of deities. Personally, I think it's impossible to define it for all Atheists, as it's such a wide-reaching term.

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Here is my proof. You want a cookie, she gets you a cookie.
The rest are wanna be gods.

I'll let George Carlin rebuttle this:

"Something is wrong here. War, disease, death, destruction, hunger, filth, poverty, torture, crime, corruption, and the Ice Capades. Something is definitely wrong. This is not good work. If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed. Results like these do not belong on the Resume of a Supreme Being, This is the kind of shit you'd expect from an office temp with a bad attitude. And just between you and me, in any decently-run universe, this guy would've been out on his all-powerful ass a long time ago. And by the way, I say 'this guy' because I firmly believe, looking at these results, that if there is a god, it has to be a man.

No woman could or would ever fuck things up like this. So, if there is a God, I think most reasonable people might agree that he's at least incompetent, and maybe, just maybe, doesn't give a shit. Doesn't give a shit, which I admire in a person, and which would explain a lot of these bad results."

For a video of it, click here. Skip to about the 2 minute mark.

Daemaro, I think I have to kill you now for putting me through that song...

Death will be slow...and painfull...

Auto-tune can have a place in music. Symphony of Science is a good example of this.

But if it's being used to fix music, then there's a problem. >.>

Edit: What is Swag?

So much red tape to do the 12 month, no interest option... I feel like I need a lawyer... >.>

Anyway, I went to KFC the other say and told them that they got the best Chicken in town. The girl just smiled. Lol!


Edit: I can't wait to get the laptop. It's gonna be my Winter Holiday present to myself. (My dual core prepaid phone was my birthday gift to myself. )

Edit: Resolved.

I decided on getting the laptop. I am pretty sure I am going AMD because it's cheaper for the same shit basically.

Also, nuclear reactor? o.o;

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There are wireless routers nowadays >_>'

Also I know a lot of lazy people like you who just have their desks right next to their bed. They make it work.

I think I'm going to go with the laptop. It's a good quad core laptop, and it's not too expensive.

I just gotta figure out what it'll cost per month. (I plan on paying monthly until my tax returns roll around then paying the rest of it off. :P)

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My suggestion would be to get a desktop >_>

That doesn't sound like a bad computer though.

It's tempting, very tempting, but I also like to play while in bed. :-(

Call me lazy if you want.

Edit: Though I could always just put a monitor and a keyboard/mouse on my bed. Lol. (Yea, I know, really fucking lazy bastard.) And a Desktop would be cheaper...

Edit x2: Though a Desktop requires wires connecting to the router, which is a bitch...

Many modern laptops come with seperate graphics cards anymore. Not most, but many.

Anyway, I'm trying to decide if I want to repair it or replace it with a HP Pavilon g7z-2100 with an AMD Quad Core A10-4600M (3.2GHZ/2.3GHZ with with a 4MB L2 Cache), 1GB AMD Radon HD 7670M graphics card, 8 gb of ddr3 ram, and a 500gb 7200RPM. Sadly, it doesn't come with a 9 cell battery, only 6.

It'll cost me $739.99, but I can do payments until income tax comes around. Thoughts? Suggestions?

Edit: It's an AMD but the processor seems to be the top of the line from AMD.

Edit x2: I can't tell if it's a CPU or an APU, and if it's an APU, I can't tell why there would be both an APU and a graphics card as well..

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I mean if there is a way to fix the graphics.

I mean, it runs perfectly fine aside from the distorting of the images as seen in the pictures I posted. >.<

I don't think so, man. It seems that the shock from the impact might have just ruined the video card (and maybe some other things in your laptop). The only time I have seen anomalies like that is on my PS3 when it just overheated. There are components that shouldn't be tampered with.

So... maybe replacing the video card...

I just want to be able to play computer games again. :-(

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Does anybody know any reason why my graphics would be messing up? :-(

You dropped your laptop. >_>

Not much else to say.

I mean if there is a way to fix the graphics.

I mean, it runs perfectly fine aside from the distorting of the images as seen in the pictures I posted. >.<