Seeing that world map just makes me realize how open this game is to MMO elements.
1 - Player hubs with trading.
2 - Active world quests similar to games like FF14, GW2, etc....
3 - Dungeons scattered everywhere
So long as they avoid Raids and a monthly sub, I would absolutely be all for it!
Honestly, if D3 simply had charms, a means to completely craft primals, and a more balanced paragon system, I doubt as many people would have left.
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Stop bitching about the delay. Y'all realize that the Diablo2 team is REALLY small and realistically really shitty since everyone half decent has either been moved to a different project or no longer with blizzard? Diablo makes the LEAST money out of all of their IPs yet it is still one of the fans favorite so the company is in a very tight spot. They can't justify overhead but they can't just let the game die either. Leaving us with what we have now, we get tons of balance/quality of life patches and very few content updates. The necromancer is a BIG update and as such requires time since it is such a small team. Why can't we just be excited that we are getting (great IMO) content when realistically they could just stop updating the game.
I would be much more happy if they would stop wasting time and money on D3 and add it to the D4 "budget". D4 needs to return to Diablo's roots and win back all the Diablo fans it lost at the launch of D3 and in the past years. Casuals / Noobs will come as always. No more catering to noobsauces and casual scum. Casuals need to accept that certain games are made for gamers and other games are made for noobs/casuals. Simple. Trying to cater to both results in a shity or mediocre product at best, while not satisfying anyone.
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Casuals represent most of the playerbase, and since they merged with Activision, it has become clear that they care more about money than deep content.
One thing you can be certain of is that D4 will have many aspects that cater to the casuals you hate so much. That does not mean D4 will be bad though.
Except it will, whenever years in the future it comes out it'll not be the all mighty savior everyone is expecting, sure it will be a good game for some (like d3) but most ppl will complain it's even more "wowified" since it's apparently going the mmo route and again, it might blow away everyone just like lost ark trailers did, but those that hate the mmo aspect of it are simply screwed,
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Stop bitching about the delay. Y'all realize that the Diablo2 team is REALLY small and realistically really shitty since everyone half decent has either been moved to a different project or no longer with blizzard? Diablo makes the LEAST money out of all of their IPs yet it is still one of the fans favorite so the company is in a very tight spot. They can't justify overhead but they can't just let the game die either. Leaving us with what we have now, we get tons of balance/quality of life patches and very few content updates. The necromancer is a BIG update and as such requires time since it is such a small team. Why can't we just be excited that we are getting (great IMO) content when realistically they could just stop updating the game.
I would be much more happy if they would stop wasting time and money on D3 and add it to the D4 "budget". D4 needs to return to Diablo's roots and win back all the Diablo fans it lost at the launch of D3 and in the past years. Casuals / Noobs will come as always. No more catering to noobsauces and casual scum. Casuals need to accept that certain games are made for gamers and other games are made for noobs/casuals. Simple. Trying to cater to both results in a shity or mediocre product at best, while not satisfying anyone.
I just shake my head when people can honestly say they believe it will come out later than July.
It is not a simple fix, more so because it has a ton of options to fix it, and I think they want to make sure they pick the right one.
This is surprisingly a lot of really good work.
My one worry is that the Bone set is going to become the new pet set now. That bonus is pretty high!
I really feel bad for people like you.
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Sets are still core problem with this game, endless paragon grs and gem leveling is zzzzz, Lon still a nightmare of a joke. Try again. Oh wait....rimeheart is now 20%!?...whoa....thank god the damage doesn't need a buff or the whole idea of it in an Lon build because there's like six fucking items that support cold and freeze yet not one is used. Haha more shine on the shit pile and nothing more.
Primal negates paragon by quite a bit.
Primal also will take other LoN sets higher compared to normal sets due to scaling.
In the end, primal is brilliant!
Demon, you've already meet the status of the most down votes so please stop with the obvious trolling:)
Primal negates paragon by quite a bit.
Sets are still core problem with this game, endless paragon grs and gem leveling is zzzzz, Lon still a nightmare of a joke. Try again. Oh wait....rimeheart is now 20%!?...whoa....thank god the damage doesn't need a buff or the whole idea of it in an Lon build because there's like six fucking items that support cold and freeze yet not one is used. Haha more shine on the shit pile and nothing more.
It was stronger and easier to gear for than LoN Bomb.
Please do not ever source FORBES as a legit source. Thanks
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I don't see an expansion for two reasons.
First, the developers have said that they broke up the second xpac into content patches and planned on releasing that over the next couple of years. Second, with introducing the Necromancer as a pay-to-play character, I think that they will add supporting content where it makes sense and do paid additions for much more major features, like characters, new acts, etc.
Nah, they never said anything about breaking up an Xpac into patches.
In fact, all the "free" stuff that we got was originally planned to release with RoS, but they delayed a lot of it because they were not happy with how it functioned. Even the two new zones had data mine strings from prior patches to RoS as well as the cube, which was rumored to come out in Vanilla with paragon.
Now, I do not expect an expansion either, I think they are going the pure DLC route. We can get new stories and zones maybe even acts with this method. It is a solid marketing strategy that has worked very well for other games. It is easier for people to find 10-15 dollars here or there then to find 40. In the end, you can release more DLC packs resulting in more profits each year, but because it was a lower amount at that time, people are more willing to buy.
There was an article published on Forbes where they mentioned a source inside of Blizzard said that they broke up the second expansion into large content patches instead. http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2016/07/06/source-blizzard-broke-a-second-diablo-3-expansion-into-patch-content/#54dc6fb2260a
That was what I was basing my information off of in the previous post. It wasn't an official statement from the company. It could also be that they shifted direction since this was released and you could be right about the content being shifted into smaller DLCs. It could also be they scrapped it and did something else instead. Who knows other than them?
Nah, they never said anything about breaking up an Xpac into patches.
I don't see an expansion for two reasons.
First, the developers have said that they broke up the second xpac into content patches and planned on releasing that over the next couple of years. Second, with introducing the Necromancer as a pay-to-play character, I think that they will add supporting content where it makes sense and do paid additions for much more major features, like characters, new acts, etc.
Battle Chest Box looks pretty sweet, I really would not mind having a copy of that to put on display.
Nah, I am just not an arrogant sub standard you know what.
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Awesome, this is a lot of changes for an initial PTR patch, looking forward to see what else is in store for us in 2.4.3
Were you paid to say that? That was like....mega corny.
Awesome, this is a lot of changes for an initial PTR patch, looking forward to see what else is in store for us in 2.4.3
I bet you do not even know/have the achievements for the quests and story in the two most recent zones added to the game haha. They each came with story, sure they could have come with more, but they certainly had story. Also, an Act takes about 45 minutes to beat first run through, so two zones with about 15-20 minutes of quest related material is not far off.
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Seeing all this stuff together in one page, don't you think this could have been enough to call it an expansion?
- new class
- new areas
- new monsters
- new game mode (challenge rift + D1)
- mechanical changes (grift density, gem upgrade, material UI, dye merchant)
- armory
If they also added cube to this list and the earlier added areas (which make it 5 areas = a small Act 6). It could definitely be sold as an expansion.
no!
- new class will be sold as DLC, the last classes in the diablo universe always came with an addon. but the class wasn't the important thing, it was always the new act.
- new areas seem to be without a quest line or something like the cube. which is digested in a few minutes.
- new monsters are okay, i guess. as long as they are really unique and do something other than mindlessly run to a player, charge or cast while evading. we already have that and graphics are worse enough, you only get to see hp bars anyway.
- new game mode D1 only once a year, which totally sucks and is no real content. it is a gimmick. challenge rift? blizzard bypasses the most gripes of this community by disabling a lot of the problems and calling it an even playing field. but i wonder how they implement the whole thing. do i have to play unfamiliar specs to challenge a friend in order to have fun?
- grift density is such a crappy thing. since rifts and grifts all you do is search for big pockets of mobs. now there will be more pockets. material UI sounds okay, but why do i still have to substract the mats i need from that window? why doesn't it work a like a currency tab in wow?
- and QoL things like dyes at the transmogger, the armory etc. are things they could have brought in the past four years. even vanilla lacked them and i wanted to use addons from curse, only to find out they won't allow ui customization.
sorry, but those things don't warrant an expansion.
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This would be a great addition to D3 as we wait for D4.
The only thing I dislike is them taking the space of regular gem sockets. Instead, I would rather we have a rune pouch which will have three grids. A triple connected row, much like your armor example above, a double connected and one single row (equating to pants and helm), and than a triple non-connected row, which would compromise the jewelry sockets. In all, you can have 9 runewords equipped like above, but it leads me to allow this following addition:
MODIFIED LEGENDARY GEMS USEABLE ON REGULAR GEAR SOCKETS! Simply put, when leveling a gem to level 75, create a cube recipe that costs 300 forgotten souls, 1,000 deaths breaths, and 100 of each bounty mat in order to modify a legendary gem. By modifying the legendary gem, you unlock a level 75 gem bonus related that gems theme, as well as the ability to equip that legendary gem in ANY SOCKET.
Yes, that would be power creep, but honestly, NUMBERS ARE NUMBERS, and this would allow a more in depth optimization, which is truly all I care about in my ARPG's!
*PS Bring back Charms in a similar fashion to my rune pouch idea!!!
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I would love a new system in the game for more character optimization. I would also love if we had new variants of rifts. Trading would be fun, but I feel that ship has sailed for D3. I would also like a paragon rework, but I doubt they deliver on that as well.
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I did not expect the things many of you did.
I expected a beat the time challenge based on everything they said, and I am really enjoying it atm. Not going to go all out for that top 10 spot, but will try to get into the top 100 times, and maybe play it 2-3 hours a week to learn the maps and time the best routes.
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I do not understand why people want to rush the Necro to 70 myself either, to me it shows why so many people complain about the content, because they flat out do not remember how to even enjoy it, getting so fixated on "end game" for no real reason at all.
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That being said, it would not shock me if they decide to take the route of making a male druid and female amazon, while adding some maps and background story regarding Skovos Isle.
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I feel they should just rework the Immortal King set for Barbs into a Javazon build and then release Druids.
Problem solved!
Edit* THough I would prefer if they created a Lancer/Dragoon instead per my post right after Blizzcon, located in page 1 of this thread.
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DLC packs typically offer small story elements, and class tweaks.
Blizzard gave the class tweaks for free, but is using a DLC for a brand new class, which is far more than a Micro Transaction as the Necromancer could change several key elements of the game for longstanding players who care about the 4 man meta. It also shows that even though the game was thought to be dead, there are still some small and subtle plans for it.
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If I had to guess, they have already been working on the new Diablo game for over a full year now, based on job postings that they had on the website late 2015 that were filled. Though it is not likely that we get an announcement at Blizzcon, it is probable because the Diablo universe is literally the only universe that could potentially have something new come Blizzcon 2017. WoW, SC, Hearth, HotS, and Overwatch all have fairly new major content updates. That is, unless they decide to make Warcraft 4!
If I had to put a peg on a release date, I would suggest summer of 2020, which would be 8 years after D3, and roughly 5 years of consistent production.
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That being said, Blizzard has always called expansions, and even the SC 1 remake "New Games" so the theory that this could be for D2 is not unfounded.
However, it is more likely that this is for D4 because D2 would not need the extensive resume's that they are looking for. The game is already done, and in good shape, would just need rendering and the likes, something which an intern can do.
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Apparently Halinka is leaving the WoW team for another position in Blizzard, but he cannot announce it.
Given that this project is the only one looking for work at the time, it is likely the "New Game in Diablo Universe Project".
Halinka has extensive experience working on PVP elements, so there is also a chance they could be looking to improve PVP in D3 since Brawling is straight up bad.
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If they move away from the top down traditional ARPG style, I would personally be done with the series.
If it is not broke, do not fix it.
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They have not done anything to any of the other classes or items during the Beta.
However, that does not mean nothing will be done. My guess is the legendary gems will be later, but the fact they even have a design for them certainly means they are coming, just have to find out when, and pray they have a large affect on the end game diversity.
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For reasons already stated, the fresh start putting builds together is a great feeling!
That being said, we all share that feeling, which is why I do think the Necromancer will bring life to D3 again.
Think about it, we all love grinding for loot, trying our builds etc.... Well, Necro is going to be completely fresh, not only will we have sets, but LoN will be worth trying for tons of combo's as well. It will be a great feeling!
In fact, I wish they would just release a new class each year for the next 5 years as they work on perfecting D4. That new class feel would allow many to try new things related to builds and gameplay, which is really what we all want!
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Greaters really need to be strictly about competition. Leave regular rifts and bounties for where you collect your loot.
Then, stop giving us a set for free, and seasons actually become a fun event for many again.
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I wonder when people are going to realize that primal items are a nerf to paragon, not an increase in power creep.....