Quote from "Archie" »
That method would be horrible. The people with the most time would have the best characters. Not to mention that it has already been confirmed multiple times that the stat system is now an auto assign system.
Quote from "Sixen" »Naw, it would just be one giant news post. Once. Then nothing until the game was released. How much fun would that be? I admit, I hate having to wait, I want the D2 patch right now, I want D3 right now. I want an Oompa Loompa now. But think about it, where would the fun be if they told us everything right away, saved no surprises, no nothing? We would be bored and would eventually not care. There would be no hype... It'd be no fun~
Quote from "Ivaron" »Well, if you can't kill a monster in one hit, then the next best thing is to kill it in two hits, correct?
It was just to explain that there's always a best way of doing it... In old games statistics used to be randomly given at game creation and then you could get bonusses to them during the game... In any game where you can personally choose them there's always been a best way to do it for any particular build... I'm not just talking about Diablo 2's flawed statistics where vitality was so much better than anything else (that was crappy too, but it's not the main problem). The system itself is flawed in how it works.
And you could say, hey the same can be said about skills, sure but playing a different build with non-conventional skills was actually a fun challenge to do, you can't say that about stats.
Quote from emilemil1 »
I guess it could be more balanced if stats had diminishing returns depending on how much higher it is than your other stats. A completely balanced character would have much higher total stats, but it would not be specialized. You can choose to go with the build for the most damage, but you will lose more defense than you gain in damage. A pure tank would of course go with full defense, but its damage would just be ridiculously low. This is how simple RPGs have designed their heroes for a long time. The higher you push one stat, the more it costs you in your other stats. You can choose different levels of specialization depending on what role you want to have in a party. Pure party characters would choose to specialize in one stat because the rest of the party would make up for what it can't do. A pure party Wizard would for example choose 100% damage without having to be afraid of not beeing able to survive. You might want to specialize in 2 stats if you aren't playing in a party all the time, or otherwise you would have too many weaknesses. And a soloer would want to be able to take on the roles of all party members at once, so a balanced build is preferred.
Quote from "Ivaron" »The problem with stats imo is just that they all have an obvious point where you don't need any more of it.
When you're killing everything in one hit, you don't need any more strength. When you're never missing, you don't need any more dex. When your healing potion heals you faster than any monster could ever damage you, you don't need any more health. And... well you never need any energy lol.
I just don't see how this could change in Diablo 3. The statistics could be balanced roughly, but there would still be a best way to spend them.
Quote from "godsend1989" »it will be nice if attribute points will have a bigger role in to the game not just for show.
... I expect something cool to customize stats.
Quote from "Ivaron" »Regardless, you would still always get dex up high enough that you don't miss every time you try to wack at something, or have high enough block % and not bother with it anymore than that. And if strength and magic actually added to damage in a meaningful way than noone would bother with life anymore than being able to take one or two hits and keep standing because they had potions for that.
It's not a flaw of Diablo 2 per s?, it's actually every game with customisable statistics works this way. In Dragon Age: Origins, my Rogue needs a certain amount of Strength to be able to wear some good armor, and beyond that enough dexterity to train the right skills and about 10-20 constitution (=vitality), and everything else in Cunning (which determines a rogue's damage output). It's the system that's flawed, not the implementation of it in Diablo 2.
Edit: to further explain...
You could for instance let Dexterity also determine chance to critical hit, but then it would become a calculation between how much critical chance and how much strength (regular damage) works best. All in strength would probably be a bad idea, and so would be all in dex, and you would always have a different equation depending on what build and what items you choose... It'd get pretty complicated I guess, but there would still not be any real customization because there's always a golden line - there's always a best way to do it.
Quote from "kefka666333abc123" »Balance bugs and glitchs is not enough for this patch to be worth the wait IMO and id say most of the population agrees this isnt enuff....even a few new items would be nice,...
All I hope for in the new patch is for the cow level to give good experience like it used to... then I will be satisfied!
Quote from "meatball8442" »Blizzard is a company who has not released a new game since 2003. I don't know any other game development company out there in the world who is actually still in business to have done this.
With that said, they should concentrate on getting their next title out. The announcement of D3 should have come along with the announcement to end of any development of D2. They are a good hearted company and are doing this for the fans, but as I see it and they likely see it at this point its just not worth it.
just my three cents
Quote from "LordRazZ" »Again, I hate to side with the "bad guys" here....but
This is a game many of us bought a decade ago.
We haven't put a dime into it since.
We're getting more free content. I've never heard of a company updating their games, for FREE, this far along after the release.
Take your time Blizzard..thanks again for all the hard work you put into your games.
Meh...we've just gotta kill time til the patch is released....
Quote from "IceBlade" »FG = Forum Gold. I have an account on d2jsp. You can sell d2 items or items in other games for virtual money (forum gold) and then buy items with the gold you obtain. It's like trading for runes. You trade an item for runes and then sell the rune for something you need. It's just a currency. You just use forum gold instead of runes. You sell stuff for forum gold and then buy what you need with it.
If you're like me and don't play D2 consistently 'cause of work, school, etc., you can sell out in one ladder season, go MIA for a few months and then buy back in.
extremly good if it's implemented directly in-game. I so disliked trade in d2....
Quote from name="Vae Victis" »As angry as I am am about all the delays with the next patch and D3, I keep telling myself to remember Fable.
I followed Fable for YEARS, thinking about how awesome it was gonna be. When it finally came out... it sucked. Hard. Maybe to some people that hadn't followed it from it's infant stages it seemed like a good game. But if you went back and looked at what it was supposed to be, it just flat out wasn't. Why? Because they realized that what they had promised would take a looong time to do right. Instead of pushing the release date back and working to release their vision in all it's glory, they chopped the game to hell, and released the aborted version. Look up Project Ego (Fable's original name) and see what I mean. It will anger you.
That being said, I agree that Blizzard just creates hype then leaves us in the dark, but I just tell myself to be patient. If they release it too soon, it will be like Fable and fall into obscurity. No one wants that. I want a game that will be fun to play years from now, not some crap slapped together to make a deadline. It will be worth it in the end...
Balance, bug and glitches is enough and they have a big work to do because the game is extremly not balanced well.Quote from "kefka666333abc123" »...what are they gonna change besides balance and glitches?
Quote from "cherd" »That's just it, WE did not create the situation! Blizzard came out and announced that a patch was coming soon. They created the situation, They intentionally created the hype. We get excited and then the patch doesn't come, and it doesn't come, then it doesn't come again. We get excited about D3, then it doesn't come. All the while we are left in the dark as to what is going on.
All I'm saying is, don't get our hopes up about something that cannot be delivered as promised. And, if our interest is supposed to be sustained, then be more transparent about what is going on. The ultra-secrecy is confounding to me. Why can't they be more interactive?
I don't know whether they do these things intentionally, I am seriously beginning to wonder. I prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that unexpected hitches cause delays that could not have been foreseen. But their resistance to share meaningful information tends to make me believe otherwise. Do they refuse to share information because there is nothing to share? Are people dropping the ball? Is the whole team dropping the ball? Are these people really motivated to get work done in an efficient manner?
I don't know what is going on. But, I do know that in my line of work this type of performance would not be tolerated. Missing deadlines by years SHOULD NOT be the NORM. When you make a promise to your customers, your first priority should be to make good on that promise. Unfortunately for us, Blizzard does not seem to follow these philosophies. I suppose that they do not feel pressured to do so.
The problem is that they have us by the balls, and they know it!!
Quote from "cherd" »Playing Torchlight has changed my mind about auto pick-up for gold. I like it, and hope that it's included in D3.
Quote from "Odin" »Well hopefully we'll agree that the current system can't be the way to go. Despite the much needed gold, xp loss there needs to bee some time lost implemented. As long as the checkpoints aren't close to each other something like a faster respawnrate for each death would be really cool.
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I think even gems will have gold currency so we don't need to know what's the value equality of an items when every items are converted in gold when traded...
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... text based in the chat ??? in 2010 ? lol
AHAH yes I agree, but I hope Blizzard will counter that.
Yes I strongly agree !! I hate when the first amount of gold you found is 10. Damn cut the zero on everything...
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ahahah !!
I do some 3D...
Havok have a ragdoll, it's a program with physics, you set a force (damage), an impact point and the gravity and the collisions are made by itself (pre-programming)... Yes it's only for death... the rest is animation likely done by blizzard because the few default animation is not really great...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHiFPGWO52w
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It's depending about only few thing, number of bugs found/quality of the testers (and plan test) and programming structure (easiness to work inside without break other things)
SO it's can take less or more... example: duke nuken forever never release since 1997... (many works are constantly became old, if they wanted to follow the quality of the new tech.)
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Do you think it's will be better to decreasing your armor to gain faster fury ?
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oh misunderstood... I consider melee as "normal" attack (left click) with your weapon... for me spell is another thing... You call that melee and me I'm inclined to say no/small range spell. Anyway...
I completly not understand what you're talking about, I think you post in a wrong thread !!
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bah, I really don't like that !!! it's decrease the customization...
What, everyone will have the same build ?!?!! IF the game don't let you the choice, it's mean you're forced to put point or keep it for later (I don't think Blizzard want that).
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mmmmm if we got 1 point each level, it can't work (you will have too free point while you have every available skill with 1 point inside)... And It break a little bit the customization...
What I see it's :
lvl 1 - 12-18
lvl 2 - 22-34
lvl 3 - 34-48
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Damage * (character lvl/1.5~)
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Yes right !! I hurry to see how it will work !!
I see a single way to make first skill useful = % instead of a static number.
That and like you said runes
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I don't know, it's a normal spell (duty of wiz)
WD to me sound summoner and debuff not caster...
Do you think a first tier spell maxed can be effective at the end ? you indend to maxed it and always use it ONLY ?? because to me it's a waste of skill point, you better to maxed end level skill...