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- Jamoose
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Member for 15 years, 1 month, and 24 days
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Mar 27, 2011
Jamoose posted a message on How will set items work?I voted "Other" because i want low level sets and end game sets too.Posted in: News -
Mar 23, 2011
Jamoose posted a message on D2 ladder reset frequencyWell put thread and all but personally, i think that 6 months is going to be more fun :thumbsup:Posted in: News
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Mar 22, 2011
Jamoose posted a message on D2 Ladder Reset - Season 8Posted in: NewsQuote from Alexlolli
It'll be great :biggrin: ! does anyone know if Blizzard has done anything to prevent bots from spam-messaging games?
I really dont think so.
Im going to play in private games anyway so i dont care. But seriously the bots are fucking annoying. -
Mar 22, 2011
Jamoose posted a message on D2 Ladder Reset - Season 8I might start over with a couple of friendsPosted in: News
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Mar 19, 2011
Jamoose posted a message on The Man Behind the CainVery interesting interview :thumbsup:Posted in: News
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Mar 14, 2011
Jamoose posted a message on DiabloCast: Episode IGreat job you guys :thumbsup:Posted in: News
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Mar 13, 2011
Jamoose posted a message on A DiabloFans Editorial: the Guiding ParchmentGood job Don. :thumbsup:Posted in: News
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Mar 11, 2011
Jamoose posted a message on Fifth Batch of Screenshots and ArtNot the most impressive batch of screenshots but its still neat.Posted in: News
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Mar 4, 2011
Jamoose posted a message on Fourth Batch of Screenshots and ArtPosted in: NewsQuote from carnage665
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So everytime you cast the blow dart your shield automatically teleports to your back or is there an animation of the WD placing it on his back...?
Im kinda worried about this. Though it can be as some said that when you change to your secondary weapons your first weapon set goes to your back.
Maybe they added blow darts as a weapon for the WD?
Just wondering.
Watch this vid on youtube in 720p: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrUr4I7zkew . Between 13:15 and 13:30, take a close look at the WD as he is casting. It's pretty obvious that his shield and weapon switch to his back and then back to his hand/arm in a millisecond. There's no animation of him placing it on his back, its just an automated visual quickswitch. Hope this answered your question.
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Mar 4, 2011
Jamoose posted a message on Fourth Batch of Screenshots and ArtSo everytime you cast the blow dart your shield automatically teleports to your back or is there an animation of the WD placing it on his back...?Posted in: News
Im kinda worried about this. Though it can be as some said that when you change to your secondary weapons your first weapon set goes to your back.
Maybe they added blow darts as a weapon for the WD?
Just wondering. -
Mar 3, 2011
Jamoose posted a message on Fourth Batch of Screenshots and ArtIm interested in the fact that the WD has a shield on his back while using the blow dart skill.Posted in: News
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Feb 22, 2011
Jamoose posted a message on Third Batch of Screenshots and ArtI love those high res in game screenshots. You can zoom in and see all the detail. The graphics are beautiful.Posted in: News
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Feb 11, 2011
Jamoose posted a message on Blizzard 20-year AnniversaryA year after i was born, Blizz was created. Its like it was just made for me to enjoy during my lifetimePosted in: News
Nah, jk... I just wanna thank Blizz for all the great games they let us play along those past years. -
Jan 1, 2011
Jamoose posted a message on Happy New YearsHappy new year everybody... yeah...Posted in: News
Too much alcohol and drugs >.< -
Dec 12, 2010
Jamoose posted a message on Wiki Bi-Weekly Issue 2Thanks to the wiki team for their dedication and contributions to this community.Posted in: News
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So let's make the letter about "cheating" so that whatever slim chance there was of Blizzard actually addressing it will be completely gone or replaced with stupid examples of actions taken by blizz against exploits and other irrelevant stuff. I think people need to get over their ego and i'm not talking about streamers only...
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1) Botting is not about paragon levels. Maybe to some extent it is, but it's mostly about not having to farm GR keys and materials. Basically, if you run a simple bot on T6-10 every night when you sleep, you will basically have infinite GR keys and materials. Paragon farming through botting is extremely inefficient. I'm not saying people aren't doing that, i'm just saying that it's not the main incentive for botting. At least from what i've seen and experienced.
2) Adding a combat log won't solve all of the issues that THUD helps to solve. Sure if they implement all of the "good" THUD features in the game then there won't be any need for it but untill then, people will use THUD no matter what because it's simply fucking amazing if you are playing the game and want to have some more details about what's going on and not be limited to retarded chat messages.
THUD is not the issue here. If Blizzard adds mod support they will solve the THUD issue but that's a different story. Fact of the matter is that in this thread, people want to pressure Blizzard into addressing the botting problem because they know that there might still be a chance that Blizz would give a damn and actually ban some or all of the botters. There's no use in trying to pressure them to ban THUD users because that simply won't happen for multiple reasons, the main one being the fact that they can't tell for 100% that you are using THUD if you carry out a few simple safety measures.
Personally, i don't think Blizzard will change their stance because of this letter. Sure, they might ban some botters now but in the long run, it won't suddenly make them make a big shift in their policies and start investing more into the anti-cheats division that is supposed to specifically work on D3... A division that seems to be non-existent from what we've seen so far.
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On one of the most if not the most popular bot community website, there are so far no reports of bans.
I think that people will slowly start losing their patience... We might see some big drama in the next few days
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Botting is too good and it needs to go. There's not much to it. Whoever is defending botting is probably a botter himself.
I'm not calling for a witch hunt because i was a botter myself at various points in the past, both in d3 and in other games. not that it really matters but yeah. I'm just saying that Blizzard should take action.
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There seems to be a trend in the video game industry as of late to make announcements closer to the actual release date of said announced products. I'm not sure if it's really a thing but look at OW, FO4 and now even FC:P. Also, there were rumors about a new IP announcement at last years' Blizzcon for a long time before it actually happened so by no means was it expected to be a "bad" Blizzcon year but whatever dude - Blizzard just doesn't give a shit about D3 anymore and it's been like that for a while now (Look at last year's Blizzcon). An expansion is bullshit anyway... raise level cap to 80 so 100% of everything becomes useless and it will most likely introduce a trillion new balance problems when the already existing ones have not been resolved for months and years now. I don't see what's the problem with constant content patches and updates for a semi-dead game when taking other Blizzard games into consideration...
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Blizzcon has always had a good year and a bad year. This year is one of those bad years because last year OW was announced. What, since when does Blizzard announce a new game at every single Blizzcon? That's just not how it goes. It's not trying to find any patterns, it's just facing reality. Expecting an expansion announcement at this year's Blizzcon is just wishful thinking of depressed D3 fans.
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Because that's what a mod will probably tell you soon anyway.
And just as i posted there, i don't see why people are surprised that there are no D3 announcements at Blizzcon since all the major ones in the past were held at conventions in Europe.
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D3 was announced at the worldwide invitational paris 2008 and ROS was announced at Gamescom 2013 Cologne... I won't be surprised if future major announcements would also be held somewhere in Europe. I don't understand why people are so surprised and disappointed by the lack of D3 stuff at Blizzcon because it was exactly the same last year.
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If you go over to the battle.net eula: http://eu.blizzard.com/en-gb/company/legal/eula.html
There's this section:
Consent to Monitor.
WHEN RUNNING, A GAME MAY MONITOR YOUR COMPUTER'S RANDOM ACCESS MEMORY (RAM) FOR UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAMS RUNNING CONCURRENTLY WITH THE GAME. AN "UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM" AS USED HEREIN SHALL BE DEFINED AS ANY THIRD PARTY SOFTWARE PROHIBITED BY SECTION 1(C)(ii) ABOVE. IN THE EVENT THAT THE GAME DETECTS AN UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM, (a) THE GAME MAY COMMUNICATE INFORMATION BACK TO BLIZZARD, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION YOUR ACCOUNT NAME, DETAILS ABOUT THE UNAUTHORIZED THIRD PARTY PROGRAM DETECTED, AND THE TIME AND DATE; AND/OR (B) BLIZZARD MAY EXERCISE ANY OR ALL OF ITS RIGHTS UNDER THIS AGREEMENT, WITH OR WITHOUT PRIOR NOTICE TO YOU.
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Now, i remember that there was some case in Germany that had something to do with Blizzard losing the case but i'm pretty sure that only had to do with some dude selling gold on his website. On one of the major bot websites, they say that "Botting in Diablo 3 is not against any law, except in Germany." <- not sure what they are referring to exactly here but i'd guess that it's an outcome of some lawsuit. Couldn't find anything that say that they are not allowed to scan your memory. I think that even if they are technically not allowed to, they'd still do it and you'd have to bring it to court against them if you have a problem...
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A user that goes by the name of Malmorcan on one of the major botting communities has made an interesting post a while ago. I think it's very relevant to this topic.
-POST TAKEN FROM MAJOR BOT COMMUNITY - POSTED BY MALMORCAN-
I've seen a lot of weird theories about bot detection and why some get banned. I thought it might be helpful to talk about these two issues, maybe clear some things up. I won't pretend to have the magic answer, but I do have some insight, since I work as a Business Analyst in the IT industry. Also, in addition to being a video game enthusiast, I also have kids, and a full time job (if it weren't for botting, I wouldn't be playing D3, because I don't have 10 hours a day to play video games period).
Bot Detection
Blizzard isn't being secretive about how they detect bots.
The ToS allows them to scan your memory, which they do to look for hooks. Unless they've decided not to look for RoS Bot in particular (which we know not to be the case by the number of bans), they likely see your botting activity. Resource hacker, or only botting in human patterns of behavior, won't hide the bot's hook from these scans.
And this is not some new technology--this type of detection has been around for years. It's also not illegal for Blizzard to scan your memory. I'm sure you've seen a forum post somewhere where someone refers to some court case in some country or something--but if you dig, you'll find that it turned out to be bogus.
So, it's neither impossible nor illegal for Blizzard to see if you have bots running. They've also asked you to sign a ToS that gives them permission to do so. I don't think, at this point, there is any mystery as to how they detect bots. But, even if they weren't allowed to scan your memory, there are other tell-tale signs of botting that are irrefutable that you cannot hide, and looking for those patterns is easy (how many human players bind mouse 3 to force move and play for 6 hours straight without taking a piss break?) The idea that Blizzard doesn't know for sure who is botting is fairly naive at this point. Sorry to break it to you.
So Who Gets Banned?
While everything else I've said in this post is straight-forward and verifiable, this next is not as straight-forward. So, let's start with these three premises:
Just as Valve, and other large video game companies, create metrics for analysis, Blizzard surely does so as well. In fact, it's almost impossible that their board of directors doesn't require it from their officers. Blizzard's been doing this a long time, and they've been able to collect data about the effects of banning accounts for botting (a lot of data first coming from WoW, along with all the data from D3).
From that data, they create rules of behavior. If they see financial trends in proximity to company action, they will begin to establish correlations. So, when they ban player accounts, they don't just look at the number of accounts they ban, they look at everything. They have a lot of information about you, and information they can deduce about you: name, age, nationality, home address, other Blizzard products you own, etc.. When they perform a banwave, a number of those banned will rebuy accounts. What factors correlate to that rebuying behavior, and what factors correlate to those who don't buy again, or don't buy Blizzard products again? The answers to those, and other questions, establish or shape rules for future action.
We can try to infer some of those rules by looking at patterns of bans. Like, maybe players botting multiple accounts 24/7 are putting a large strain on their servers, so they are considered less profitable. And we see a high percentage of ban wave reports coming from people botting multiple accounts. Recently we saw a good number of reports of multi-account botters only getting some of their accounts banned. Maybe we can infer that they've determined that people with multiple accounts, who don't lose them all, are more likely to rebuy an account. Maybe they've also determined that solo botters are less likely to rebuy--and less likely to buy other Blizzard products when they get banned. In fact, if you determine that 80% of the solo botters you ban not only never buy D3 again (not even when an expansion is released), would it be smart to ban those solo botters? What if you discover that 75% of D3 botters you banned, who also own Hearthstone accounts, stopped buying Healthstone packs? Would it be smart to ban them in the future?
Whatever the actualy rules are that they are coming up with, they are not based on a moral objection to playing the game as it was not intended to be played; they are coming up with rules that make the game more profitable. Their policy on multiboxing makes that very clear.
As far as protecting the integrity of the game to protect the existing playerbase, I think Blizzard made their intentions known when they removed the auction house and introduced BoA. Seasons also suggests Blizzard is going for a long-term community, and try to keep players playing Diablo 3 for longer periods of time.
My personal recommendations for avoiding getting banned is don't fuck with Blizzard.
Don't make them pay an inordinate amount of money to keep servers alive so you can bot 24/7, or with a bunch of accounts. Don't mess with the competitive community they're trying to foster by botting in Seasons. I'm not saying you can't--there are people who bot 24/7 and get banned, and people who bot 24/7 and don't get banned; that doesn't mean Blizzard doesn't know, it just means that activity, by itself, is not banworthy. Or it means they may determine they only need to ban 35% of 24/7 botters during a particular banwave to keep server costs reasonable.
Blizzard doesn't want to ban you. They don't want to lose customers. But they will do it if your behavior costs them money directly in server costs, or indirectly by interfering with other players' enjoyment of the game. Banning is only one possible response. In a game where botting hurts other player's game by ruining their economy, or hording up farming spots (like in WoW), you can expect a stronger response. With Titanfall, when a player is detected with an aimbot, that person can only play matchmaking with other aimbotters--they aren't banned from playing the game entirely. In Diablo 3, botting does not harm other players' enjoyment of the game thanks to BoA and the removal of the auction house. The only harm it can have is on player confidence in the game and the player's sense of fairness, so don't expect bans to stop, and don't expect Blizzard to come out and say, "Yeah, we're fine with botting." What they want is for everyone to have fun so they can make more money. Yes, it's petty and childish for anyone to be mad that someone else is botting, but this is a video game, and the majority of its customers are young, so childish behavior is expected.
I hope that is useful for some of you who are constantly worried about getting banned. Don't stress the detection--they know you're botting. Just hope that when they decide to trim down on the botting community to lower server costs, you have some metrics in your favor.
TL:DR: This guy tries to explain some of the reasoning behind Blizzard banning and or not banning botters.
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If it wasn't clear from my previous post or people just didn't read it because it was a bit lengthy; The main benefits of botting right now are the materials and rift keys that you gain and not the plvls because as mentioned, farming paragon in a 4p group is about 10 times more efficient. Still though, that does not mean that you won't gain some paragons while botting (allegedly around 20-50b xp ph) but that's just not the main thing.
As Hoschi mentioned, today withe the ability to cube items, having so many materials from botting basically means that you can upgrade rares into legendaries at an insane rate which allows you to perfect your gear in no time and obviously give you the option to attempt about 20-30 weapon upgrades per day which pretty much almost guarantees a perfect ancient weapon for your build in a relatively short period of time.
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Well i guess we can both agree that it's extremely profitable to bot right now.
Also, it kind of bothers me but i've learned to live with it; there are people that have botted almost 24/7 during ALL OF season 2 and 3. These guys didn't get banned or anything.
I guess the fact that if you get banned you only lose your current D3 license but your b.net account stays untouched - has to say that Blizzard either does not give a shit at all or they are actually profiting from this situation and have been profiting for a long while now but i;m not sure if that's a correct assumption; I remember back in Vanilla days when people actually made money from botting and selling shit on the rmah - When people got banned, they went back to botting really fast, every fucking time. So ever since then, untill today, every time there has been a ban wave, it caused a lot of people to re-purchase new D3 licenses and people say that this might be one of the reasons why Blizzard don't really take action. But if they would truly profit from banwaves, then we would have seen them happen more often... And they don't - so my conclusion is that this whole argument of blizz making money off botters is probably bullshit.
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Are you saying that botting is so popular because paragon farming is a huge thing right now? If so, then i have to say that you are wrong.
this post might sound like i'm encouraging botting but i'm not. I'm just sharing my experience in the subject as i have experimented with botting in different games in the past.
Botting right now will never yield anyone any amount of xp that is even starting to get close to the xp you get from speed grifting 60-70 in a 4p group. If you're good you can pull off 30b xp per hour solo botting... When done right in a group you can get over 100b quite easily and so far, there are no bots that allow the user to run multiple accounts together in the same game in a reliable manner...
Botting is too easy right now and there hasn't been a ban wave for a long time. It really makes you wonder every time whether Blizzard gives a shit or not. I'd say that they have more accurate numbers than us and they probably realize that the botters are maybe 1-5% out of the player-base (just guessing numbers here) and that their impact is indeed very minor.
@MHM: Your suggestion is ok but i don't think it will work.There might be a chance that every time blizzard puts out a ban wave, their support lines get bombarded with people crying that they got banned for no reason which in turn creates a shitload of work for their support divisions and possibly creates some sort of an internal shitstorm at Blizz HQ. I don't think it's such a simple matter of just banning all botters every x amount of time - There will always be mistakes and wrong bans... And if they go only for those who are obviously botting, then the number of bans would be so minuscule that it wouldn't matter that much. Ever since they removed trading, the effect that botting has on the nonexistent economy has become... well, nonexistent.
Botting really kills the game for most people but for some, it's a crazy boost. It's so simple to run a bot to farm t8 rifts for you over night for an example - Giving you quite a huge advantage over your friends because you'd have insane amounts of materials and rift keys if you do it right. I think the only way to make Blizzard send out another meaningless banwave is to make the public outcry bigger and bigger - With threads on forums, videos on YT and possibly even articles on places like Kotaku or whatever. And i call the banwave meaningless because that's what it truly is - players return to botting the second they get banned and the wave never catches everyone anyway... Botters are really having it easy and have been for a long time now.
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Never used it myself but did you go over the help section? http://pandateemo.github.io/YoloMouse/help.html
Maybe you downloaded the x64 version and that doesn't work with D3... i dono but good luck.
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Gamble rings from Kadala. After a few tens of thousands of shards, you'll get what you want. Or not
I got a few gg focus / restraints from Kadala but i'm usually lucky with her anyway so i dono.