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Quote from "emilemil1" »

I never said worthless, but they could make the builds more equal and power up the builds that are currently worthless.

These simple changes would bring a new light to the game for a lot of people. No more overpowered hammerdin? GIMME! It would be about damn time, I say.

Quote from "Noktis" »

Give me link where Blizzard said that Hellfire is an unofficial expansion. Only thing that they said is about story in Hellfire.

I will give you some links where is clearly written that hellfire is official.

http://members.chello.at/theodor.lauppert/games/hellfire.htm
http://www.giantbomb.com/diablo-hellfire/61-17752/
http://www.greatgamesexperiment.com/game/Diablohellfire
http://infao5501.ag5.mpi-sb.mpg.de:8080/topx/archive?link=Wikipedia-Lip6-2/560649.xml&style
http://www.answers.com/topic/diablo-video-game

Btw. how Hellfire can be authorised and unofficial at once?

You are just arguing the meaning of words there.

The expansion was authorized by Blizzard. Blizzard did not make Hellfire. I guess you could say they didn't "officially make it".

That was the point made. Blizzard didn't make it, so what is in Diablo 2 Hellfire is not canon. Even if, by definition, you could say its official because it was authorized by Blizzard.

Mmmh.

This scares me.

I can't help it. When I have to say something, I say it. Even if it gets me banned. I guess I won't last long if I'm not careful.

Quote from "kefka666333abc123" »

that is really odd and I never thought about it at all to be honest...I was going to say the game was old and no one really thought about doing it in those kinda games back then but well like seth said....they did it with keys...

And the they thought of the belt, and how potions are consumables, they probably thought it was better like this, or just easier to do.

Quote from "CheehC" »

Blizzard have been talking a lot about character customization as being a key element in d3. In terms of how much you can carry ,I think that what would be really good would be if there were draw backs from having a big inventory space.

For instance; You could have a basic inventory with say 40 tetris slots. You could also choose to add 5 more. But to do so would mean that maybe your defence would be decreased by X amount or the damage you do would go down, or your MF is lessened.

This is just an idea, but this would be cool i think as it would add more of that thinking element found in diablo games.

Honestly, this is an absolutely horrible idea. When you think about it, its close to what Charms do in D2. You sacrifice inventory space for more buffs. You fill your entire inventory to the point you can't carry anything except in your cube just for the boosts.

Even if thats not what you said, its still the same in my head. I have no idea why your inventory space should be in any way related to your stats. Let me have space and as effective as possible, please. Don't force me to have less space for more damage or even more MF. I'd just be ridiculously annoyed.

Quote from "cherd" »

If gold were auto pick up, then there would be no sense of gold dropping from monsters. It would become a quantity that simply increases by killing things. It would be kinda like experience, except gold would be spendable.

I prefer to retain the feel of gold dropping from monsters. The same goes for quest items. When I kill Hephasto I liked to see the hammer sitting on the ground, as if he had actually been holding it. Having it instantly appear in your inventory would cheapen the experience. It would become more like a quest reward, as opposed to an item that you took from a monster that you had killed.

Yes, big difference there. Gold is ultra common. And its not like you won't see it on the ground. You just won't have to CLICK IT.

I'm so glad I'm not actively waiting for that patch. Looks like torture.

Quote from "3rdfoundation" »

Not sure about auto-pickup on gold. Making you walk over and pick it up makes you do a bit of work to get it. auto getting it would make it too easy. And if there are multiple players, who gets the gold? Is it split evenly, based on who did the kill or based on who did damage on the monster?

Each player get their own drops of gold.

Why is picking up gold supposed to take "work"? Hell yeah, lets just make sure to break the flow of the game for gold.

Quote from "Cureingangel" »

well you bring up a good point since gold is now a main currency in d3. Having auto pick up will make it that the longer you play basically make you rich = auction house = epic char.

Not having it on auto pickup makes no difference on that. Gold is going to be important. You pick it all up, its always useful for you. End of the line. I'm not even going to start again on the topic of "its fun to pick up gold and pick up the right ones, and its all some kind of meta game".. its a -really- weird thing, and that some enjoy it is not the problem, but that you just want us to still be forced to pick it all up manually (which is what I call a chore) just because thats how some people like it is silly.

I'd rather just evolve and get rid of that annoying task.

Quote from "luc1027" »

I'm agree to auto pick-up the gold, potions, and elexir. All what's players won't spit on it.

For elexir I don't know if blizzard want a click competition or want a run on it.

But for gold and orb (potions) it's a must.

Don't confuse orbs and potions. Orbs are orbs, you never carry them around.

And even if potions are stacked, I don't know if auto pickup on them makes sense. They are still taking room. You won't be able to stack 100 of them in one slot for sure. They should not be auto pickup.


Someone said Quest items and I must say I didn't think about them, but I must say no. Actually picking up the quest item yourself might sound like a small thing, but its needed. Its a feeling thing. These items are relatively rare anyway.

Quote from "mahamoti" »

There is one thing that could be improved: getting rid of auto-pickup on Gold. Some people like to take the time to pick up gold, tohers dont. Personally I always have a "threshold" and if its more, I pick it up, if its less I figure that the time it takes me to make 1 click is going to reduce my overall "gold per second" by picking it up as opposed to running past it, and waiting for a bigger drop. I enjoy this complex interplay. Why take it away?

Really?.

Ahem.

Well... I find it rather strange. Certainly DON'T get rid of it. If you really want that though, a simple option to disable gold auto pickup would be nice, so that you can do it like you want, and I can have it on auto pickup.

What are we talking about exactly, here? I'll avoid beating the dead parts that we all talked about much.

All that D3 needs now over D2 is some customization. "Show only X Items". Permanently show (like Alt) items of X quality (so you can't miss them, but you can still see other items on the ground using Alt).

Auto pickup should be limited to gold. Its the only thing that makes sense that you would never, ever leave behind with a reason.

Other than small things like that, it really doesn't need more.

Well, its true that more lore through difficulties would be good to get the player to play them, but how? You still are going to do all the same thing, so what, different difficulties gives you access to different little bits of lore? Why? How would that make any sense lore wise?

I'm really split here, because its not that I would personally dislike lore late in hell, but the player that does not complete anything else than Normal shouldn't be missing on important things.

If its only some things that makes sense Lore wise, but are not really important at all, just to give you something different to do passed normal, then I guess that would be good.

...but they are permanent :/

I agree though, it wasn't anything "fun" to go after, and the hits points really should scale a bit with difficulty levels (40 nightmare, 60 hell? for 120).

Its really not the same than anything else simply because they are permanent. And guaranteed. Still, your character probably won't suffer much from having 60 less HP, but people put a lot of points in vitality. Isn't that like 20 points in vitality? (depends on the character) Why would anyone throw that away?

Other than the fact I absolutely hate doing these quests and Act 3 as a whole except the end, they are worth it, in my opinion.

Quote from "italofoca" »

No it isn't.

How can it make any sense, lore wise? Everything repeats itself between difficulties, with difference and its harder, yes. But you are asking for class specific quests that makes sense and go across all difficulties.

Besides, I refuse that any important in-game lore be out of reach for anyone that only completes Normal. I've known quite a few that never stepped in Nightmare in D2, and instead just made another character and started over (the idea of completing the game "again" with the same character, even if it was harder, was boring as hell to them).

If there are unique quests that lasts a long time, or unique nightmare/hell quests, their impact on the Lore should be minimal, or they should even be detached from it (uber tristram).

Quote from "Seth" »

In Act III there were three completely optional quests and three mandatory ones (50/50)- the optional ones were the Golden Bird, Lam Esen's Tome, and the Gidbinn. In order, they gave you 20 health points (quite useless, really; most attacks by this stage in the game inflict way over that, especially in NM and Hell), 5 stat points (this is semi-useful depending on if you need it or not), and a rare ring, which usually, unfortunately, sucks

Anything permanent is worth having. 5 stat points and 20 hit points is 15 stats and 60 hit points accross all difficulties. Sure, its not a lot on its own, but no point in missing these out.

Expecting a chain of quests that lasts between difficulty is a bit far fetched.

We've known about this for ages... why talk about it now? No offense there. Not saying to stop the discussion, but I just don't get it, especially as News, because its nothing new at all.

The only thing I want here is side quests to be fun, not chores. WoW is a perfect examples of what chores are.