And I just totally typed an entire article proving me to be completely right and you completely wrong... but... my dog ate it.
And it's gone.
And I'm soooo not typing it again.
But as you can obviously see by my eaten article, I am totally right.
And you're not.
And we all know that Blizzard has based everything they've ever done 100% based on irrefutable fact. Forgot about that, sorry. Of COUSRSE the monk has to be based on fact, just like the Sorceress and the Druid and the Necromancer. Tch, my bad man.
I can prove to you that the staff is a better weapon. It has far more uses than just beating up someone with it. You can use it to hold them at a distance, throw it between their legs to trip them while you're running, sweep their feet to trip them, you can deflect blows, you can do MANY other things as well. Use your imagination. The axe is much shorter and stout, so doesn't have the reach a staff does. It's also much heavier, because of the metal end. It has a couple things the staff can't do. Hacking, slashing, hooking, and throwing. The hooking is using the groove on the bottom part of the axe head to get someone's leg or arm and trip them or disarm them with it. Other than that, the axe isn't that good of a weapon, IMO, because a weapon needs more than to be just a weapon. It needs other uses. The halberd is a far more effect weapon because it has a much longer reach, and it combines some of the strengths and weaknesses of both. The staff is a far flimsier weapon than the axe, because it isn't as thick as the axe handle is. Whereas the axes range of blocking an attack is far shorter than that of the staff, because it IS shorter. I could write a book on why the staff is better than almost every other weapon in history (excluding the more recent weapons, guns, grenades, etc etc).
And who said it just has to be the Bo Staff? It's not like you wouldn't get better stafflike weapons throughout the game. My favorite Monkish weapon is (the name escapes me for the time being, but if I come across it I shall edit it in) a staff with a Half-Moon blade on the end. It just looks awesome. There are many other stafflike weapons in the Monk's arsenal. I'm too lazy to list them all, because that would be a very long list. Google is good if you want to find out.
The Barbarian is not a Weapon Master compared to the Shaolin Monk. Monks spend their whole lives training their Martial Arts, their weapon skills, and their balance with nature/oneself (the first two basically are a way to hone the latter). It's silly to think this big hulking man, who by the way if we're going to be literal is DEFINED as a person in a savage, primitive state; uncivilized person or a person without culture, refinement, or education; philistine, actually trained his entire life with his weapons. If so he'd be far better off at the start of D2 than using those crappy little handaxes to kill a zombie in 3 hits. The Monks are far more trained in their weapons than a Barbarian. It just doesn't make logical sense to say someone DESCRIBED AS UNCIVILIZED is a better weapon master than A FREAKING SHAOLIN MONK, who are renowend worldwide for their fighting finesse, who train their whole goddamn lives just to compete with the other Monks who have been training THEIR whole goddamn LIVES.
So, go back to your little three pronged arguement against why a Monk isn't as good a fighter as a Barbarian, "I've never seen a monk do THAT!" "Barbarians were Weapon Masters because he had a skill called weapon specialization!" and "Well Diablo is completely based on fact, even though they raise dead, kill demons, have angels help them, and shoot fire/lightning/ice from their fingertips."
There, I retyped the whole thing in Notepad you little prick. It was a pain in the ass to type again, and I was far too lazy to do it at the time. I never said it proved me completely right, I just said I wasn't gonna waste time typing it all again. It was really long, and the keyboard I was typing with had a spacebar that stuck, but there it is. All nice and typed up just for you, because you wanted to be a douchebag and pissed me off.
Dude... if you think you beat things into "submission" with axes, you've never seen an axe.
Trust me, while you'd be looking for that pressure point with a staff, somebody else will just bash you with an axe and be done with it.
Also, the barbarian in the diablo universe is no mindless brute.
He's a weapon master, one of the best meelee fighters in the diablo universe.
Bah... why do I even explain that to you? Stay with the staff idea... whatever makes you happy.
Jeez! Stop taking the words so darn litterally! Fine here, CHOP THEM TO BITS WITH THE AXES, my Monk will take him down in a few short milliseconds with the pressure points, idk how they work or anything. I mean frick! You take it all so litterally. And yes, the staff idea makes me far happier, because the staff is the most versatile weapon ever, imo. Plus with all the add-ons and such, it can basically become anything with all the variations.
And btw, the Barbarian is my favorite class in D2, I'm not dissing him, but just watching my barbarian hack 'n' slash his way through a menagerie of beasts is far more repetive than a monk flipping and spinning around, taking them down with a punch to the face, or jabbing his fingers through his skull. I'm not saying the Barbarian is bad, but he's not a weapon master either. So, he can swing a halberd just like he can swing a two-handed axe, woopty doo... I like to see it take a modicum of skill rather than just relentless slashing. He is a mindless brute, that's all he is! That doesn't mean he isn't THE most beastly mindless brute EVER, but all he does is run through hacking and slashing his way through all the different monsters. You can't say he isn't a mindless brute. He has the whole, history and whatnot, but they're all just slash slah slash stab hack stab stab hack slash slash hack hack hack hack stabbity stab mcstaberstein they don't really take time to think about what they're doing. They just attack.... In a fight, my money would be on the Monk, the Barb would be on the ground writhing in pain before he could get close enough to hit him. And if he's a Throwing Barb, the Monk would just catch all the axes and daggers and through them back.
They really aren't doing anything all that wrong, nothing wrong that I know of, that is. If they want to go ahead and ruin the game and take out the best part of finding that only slightly better item, then let them. It isn't that big a deal for me. Sure they can spam you, but does it really disrupt your gameplay? I use other Battle.net so I can play with my singleplayer characters online if I want. But I don't see any profit in it (like many before me has said) for Blizzard to stop these people.
I hate autostats! I can't customize as much! I want to make two barbarians, one completely tankage, the other all damage. They shall be called Yin and Yang! And they will eat Diablo's face!
But seriously, it upsets me that you don't get as much costimisation (sp.) as you could before. I liked having the best armor, because I forsake the other stats, and the people that have more hp, and slightly worse armor chose to split between str/vit and so on. They're taking away a major part of the game that gave my character his identity!
I don't really care to be honest. If they want to do that, then fine. I'll just host a private game and invite my friends who actually want to play legitly. If they don't want to actually play the game, and just want great rewards through no effort, fine. I'd rather work for it. After beating down Diablo time after time, trudging my way over Mount Arreat and defeating Baal, many times, finally getting that item you've been searching for, to give yourself +3 damage and a slightly larger life steal, it's a great feeling. Those who want to ruin their OWN time by buying items, or hacking the game, truly do not know how fun Diablo 2 can really be.
I think Blizzard is going to do right by it's fans and stay true to the Diablo series. I think that if they make a decision, it will be the right one for Diablo 3. I found the key system a little tedious, especially when I finally find a rare locked chest and I used my last one to get the crappy pair of gloves, but it did add that little realism to the game that a lot of games don't have. I see what the OP is saying, but I think that he is just a little worried, and he shouldn't be. Diablo 3 will be great! Have faith!
I think the PVP system in D2 wasn't that well done and could use some major modifications. I'd like some kind of challenge system for honor or something. Nothing that would change your character in the game, but you got new titles the farther along you went. Like when you beat a difficulty on D2 and you got a new title. A few arenas and whatnot. I think that'd be fine! :thumbsup:
I don't mean LITERALLY beat the thing for 37 minutes. But just beating something into submission is a little boring for me. I'd rather jab a staff into some pressure points and watch him fall, twitching, to the ground.
I think it'll all be alright. Stop complaining and just be happy that they're remaking the Barbarian AT ALL! I'm a barb at heart and I just want to be able to get my guy back up to lvl 99, and then start as basically the same person. Just be happy! Feeeel the loooooove!
(sort of) I gotta ask where this was announced, where the gameplay they use them with is, and why can't I find it ANYWHERE?!!? If someone could provide links, thanks!
Anyway, from what I can tell, it seems like a really nice thing to be able to have all these customised skills, instead of everyone having the exact same ones. I'd like to be able to have the multicast one if the Barbarian has Double Swing (or whatever it's called) again. Four hits baby!
I wouldn't hold my breath. It wouldn't make sense for you to have the Horadric Cube when your previous character had it. The only person it would make sense on would be the Barbarian really. Since he's the same person from D2, it seems likely that he would have kept the Horadric Cube. How would the Wizard or Witch Doctor have gotten it?
It depends on the Monk really. If you're talking about the Eastern Monks, they pwnd. Like blow your brains out with their fists, pwnd. If you're talking about the Western Monks, yeah, they sucked pretty hard in comparison. But I would much rather have a pwnage Monk with some crazy weaponry than a 6'9" beast of a man any day. It's more satisfying to watch something twice my height go down with a few well placed attacks with my staff than watching it go down after beating it to a pulp with two axes for about 37 minutes. It makes me happy on the inside.
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And we all know that Blizzard has based everything they've ever done 100% based on irrefutable fact. Forgot about that, sorry. Of COUSRSE the monk has to be based on fact, just like the Sorceress and the Druid and the Necromancer. Tch, my bad man.
I can prove to you that the staff is a better weapon. It has far more uses than just beating up someone with it. You can use it to hold them at a distance, throw it between their legs to trip them while you're running, sweep their feet to trip them, you can deflect blows, you can do MANY other things as well. Use your imagination. The axe is much shorter and stout, so doesn't have the reach a staff does. It's also much heavier, because of the metal end. It has a couple things the staff can't do. Hacking, slashing, hooking, and throwing. The hooking is using the groove on the bottom part of the axe head to get someone's leg or arm and trip them or disarm them with it. Other than that, the axe isn't that good of a weapon, IMO, because a weapon needs more than to be just a weapon. It needs other uses. The halberd is a far more effect weapon because it has a much longer reach, and it combines some of the strengths and weaknesses of both. The staff is a far flimsier weapon than the axe, because it isn't as thick as the axe handle is. Whereas the axes range of blocking an attack is far shorter than that of the staff, because it IS shorter. I could write a book on why the staff is better than almost every other weapon in history (excluding the more recent weapons, guns, grenades, etc etc).
And who said it just has to be the Bo Staff? It's not like you wouldn't get better stafflike weapons throughout the game. My favorite Monkish weapon is (the name escapes me for the time being, but if I come across it I shall edit it in) a staff with a Half-Moon blade on the end. It just looks awesome. There are many other stafflike weapons in the Monk's arsenal. I'm too lazy to list them all, because that would be a very long list. Google is good if you want to find out.
The Barbarian is not a Weapon Master compared to the Shaolin Monk. Monks spend their whole lives training their Martial Arts, their weapon skills, and their balance with nature/oneself (the first two basically are a way to hone the latter). It's silly to think this big hulking man, who by the way if we're going to be literal is DEFINED as a person in a savage, primitive state; uncivilized person or a person without culture, refinement, or education; philistine, actually trained his entire life with his weapons. If so he'd be far better off at the start of D2 than using those crappy little handaxes to kill a zombie in 3 hits. The Monks are far more trained in their weapons than a Barbarian. It just doesn't make logical sense to say someone DESCRIBED AS UNCIVILIZED is a better weapon master than A FREAKING SHAOLIN MONK, who are renowend worldwide for their fighting finesse, who train their whole goddamn lives just to compete with the other Monks who have been training THEIR whole goddamn LIVES.
So, go back to your little three pronged arguement against why a Monk isn't as good a fighter as a Barbarian, "I've never seen a monk do THAT!" "Barbarians were Weapon Masters because he had a skill called weapon specialization!" and "Well Diablo is completely based on fact, even though they raise dead, kill demons, have angels help them, and shoot fire/lightning/ice from their fingertips."
There, I retyped the whole thing in Notepad you little prick. It was a pain in the ass to type again, and I was far too lazy to do it at the time. I never said it proved me completely right, I just said I wasn't gonna waste time typing it all again. It was really long, and the keyboard I was typing with had a spacebar that stuck, but there it is. All nice and typed up just for you, because you wanted to be a douchebag and pissed me off.
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Jeez! Stop taking the words so darn litterally! Fine here, CHOP THEM TO BITS WITH THE AXES, my Monk will take him down in a few short milliseconds with the pressure points, idk how they work or anything. I mean frick! You take it all so litterally. And yes, the staff idea makes me far happier, because the staff is the most versatile weapon ever, imo. Plus with all the add-ons and such, it can basically become anything with all the variations.
And btw, the Barbarian is my favorite class in D2, I'm not dissing him, but just watching my barbarian hack 'n' slash his way through a menagerie of beasts is far more repetive than a monk flipping and spinning around, taking them down with a punch to the face, or jabbing his fingers through his skull. I'm not saying the Barbarian is bad, but he's not a weapon master either. So, he can swing a halberd just like he can swing a two-handed axe, woopty doo... I like to see it take a modicum of skill rather than just relentless slashing. He is a mindless brute, that's all he is! That doesn't mean he isn't THE most beastly mindless brute EVER, but all he does is run through hacking and slashing his way through all the different monsters. You can't say he isn't a mindless brute. He has the whole, history and whatnot, but they're all just slash slah slash stab hack stab stab hack slash slash hack hack hack hack stabbity stab mcstaberstein they don't really take time to think about what they're doing. They just attack.... In a fight, my money would be on the Monk, the Barb would be on the ground writhing in pain before he could get close enough to hit him. And if he's a Throwing Barb, the Monk would just catch all the axes and daggers and through them back.
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But seriously, it upsets me that you don't get as much costimisation (sp.) as you could before. I liked having the best armor, because I forsake the other stats, and the people that have more hp, and slightly worse armor chose to split between str/vit and so on. They're taking away a major part of the game that gave my character his identity!
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Anyway, from what I can tell, it seems like a really nice thing to be able to have all these customised skills, instead of everyone having the exact same ones. I'd like to be able to have the multicast one if the Barbarian has Double Swing (or whatever it's called) again. Four hits baby!
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