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Somebody explain to me how enabling offline play in a game makes the online part easier to hack.

I've seen comments like "Offline is a good testing ground for hacks!" or "you can edit character info offline and submit it online!" both arguments are, I apologize, ludicrous. When I say offline play, I mean that you can never take that character online. Ever. Good luck submitting that edited character online.

As far as testing ground for bots, well answer me this. How will a bot designed for the offline client hold up when used on a server? You think Blizzard is just going to say "HAY GUYZ NO BOTZ" then trust our word? Obviously they have some kind of security in place to prevent the like, so how will perfecting a bot offline make it any easier to get it online.

Try Google.

Starcraft 2 offline was completely seperate from the online. Picture Diablo 3 the same way. There's no reason why Blizzard can't implement this. It may be because they're afraid of piracy, but let's be honest there's nothing they can do to stop it from happening.

Quote from chsh

You're only looking at it from your perspective. No one is saying you don't matter, it's just a choice blizzard must make - please 100,000 fans or please a 1,000.

That doesn't make a shred of sense - how does adding offline support displease the other 100,000 fans?

Quote from chsh

They bar loyal fans who can't get online and are a minority so they can make the gaming experience so much better for the majority who are also loyal fans who had to put up with the joke of an online game called diablo 2.

We may be a minority but there are more of us than you think.

And you're saying that because we're a minority, we don't matter? That's the vibe I'm getting from Blizzard, and if they start down this road who knows which minority will be the next left behind.

I bought Starcraft 2 when it came out because even though it required you to be online for achievements and such, you had the option of playing through the campaign offline if you validated your install by logging in. Give me one good reason why Diablo 3 can't do that.

Quote from DKR_87

Did they flame me? Were they aggressive? Did they call me insane? Well, Seniri asked if I was insane, which I am. Mwahahahahaha!!! But these 'type' of responses are the correct ones. Opposition/disagreement comes in two flavors. Respectable and Pitiful. These guys are an example of the former, which is awesome. They have some great reasons for their thoughts and they can communicate them well. And they make perfect, reasonable sense of why they feel the way they do. We need more people like that in the gaming community.

Anyways, I appreciate the feedback!

DKR

Also, while you may indeed be a nutcase, that was more directed at .. well, everybody who could even consider praising Blizzard right now. I feel almost as strongly about this as I did about the whole RealID bullshit.

Quote from Wingless

But can we please agree that it does make some sense to keep it online? Both due to availability and to prevent cheating. Saying it makes no sense makes no sense!!!11

I actually can't you can prevent cheating another way (or take action against it), not bar loyal fans from the game by removing a feature necessary for them to play. Also, I don't expect to be able to take my character from the offline world to the online world - that's what drives me insane. They could have an offline single player only mode, but they won't.

And I don't disagree with you, the internet is for sure here to stay, however Diablo 3 still shouldn't be restricted to online only. It just makes no sense.

And I know a few people who don't I'm just outside of town, maybe a three minutes drive. The DSL lines cut off a block away from us. It's the same the entire perimeter of the town. We might have to get satellite internet. It's gonna blow.

My parents have lived here for five years, I've been gone for a lot of it. But we call Bell/Rogers every month and push for the lines to be extended that single kilometer needed, and it never happens. It's not like I live in Alaska or something >.>

When I'm eating at home, I'll eat how I wish >:[

But still not everybody has internet, that for sure hasn't changed. Blizz is shooting itself in the foot here, there's no question of that.

Quote from Wingless

Your predicament, however much it might suck, is akin to me not being able to play the game because I don't have a computer.

I'm sorry, but I don't agree with that statement at all. Of course the game requires a computer, it's a computer game. Requiring internet for a game that's been prominently offline for fifteen years is preposterous, Do you need a knife AND a fork when you eat your dinner? You could get by with just the fork, but the knife is an added feature. Just like internet access in Diablo should be.

Quote from Zero(pS)

A proof of what I was saying before. People complain for a reason, and everyone nowadays are considered trolls if they disagree impolitely. The developers measure community reaction, and the more passionate it is, the higher the chance of things actually changing (like they partially did with SC2 chat channels).

I'm not going to miss the game due to its "online requirement" but I feel really bad about this decision, just like I do regarding no Lan functionality, not a lot of PvP features as it could have (without ruining PvE tbh), and some other things.

Then again, the alternative for guys like Seniri will be hacking the game. And rest assured, the game will be hacked, whether it requires a connection or not. The SC2 beta was hacked in less than a day after the release of the closed beta, so the only ppl Blizzard are hurting is the people who have nothing to do with it.

Rest assured, I will play this game once that happens, but the difference is Blizzard won't get a damn penny out of me until they implement legit offline play. I love playing D2 online and I will (eventually) love the same in D3 (I hope >.>) but that can't happen until I go back to school, which will not be for a little while at least.

How can you possibly laud anybody from Blizzard right now for their apparent skill in dealing with idiocy? Are you insane? The so called idiocy on the forums was brought about by Blizzard's inflexibility. They get an idea in their heads, they do it, then when the shit hits the fan they cower behind half truths and silence.

I *will not* be able to play this game if an internet connection is required. I am irate. I had to move to an area with no internet access, and because of that Diablo 3, the game I've been waiting for a decade to have, is out of my reach? That is unacceptable. What about our friends and family in the military, with shoddy internet overseas, will they have to miss out on Diablo 3? You bet your ass they will. Is that fair?

And don't tell me it's my fault I live with no internet, or that I should move to a new area, because that's not the point of this post. The point of this post is that Diablo isn't an MMO, and should not require a constant connection. That's lunacy.

Mkay, bear with me on this one.

Are black people allowed to get married, just like white people? 50 years ago did they have the same rights?

Stop treating gay people the same way those who came before us treated African people. Have *one* form of marriage that EVERYONE is allowed to do, no ifs ands or buts, the world will be a happier place. I personally can't wait until the generation of old religious fanatics that are currently in their 50's and 60's die off and leave us alone. There'd be less problems with priests refusing to marry gay couples.

Slaynoq, I think we have a little bit in common - I despise the very idea of marriage, a piece of paper doesn't mean I love my girlfriend any more than I do. However I understand that unfortunately it's a part of our society and one day I'm going to have to bite the bullet.

Quote from Macros

...marriage is part of religion imo...

And if a man loves a man instead of a woman (or a woman a woman, instead of a man) why should they be forced to live without marriage? Because some dusty old farts YEARS ago wrote some guidelines they thought would be best for mankind? Times have changed, IMO what we need is a new bible. Or maybe no bible at all, if it treats people like this.

Quote from Macros

Really, it's just a symbol of love. The love itself is what's important. People tend to forget that.

And these people in love want to have a legally binding bond. Let them. Who cares if they're rooting for what you consider the wrong team, it feels right to them.

I'm inactive because I prefer to talk to people on Steam/Xfire/MSN/Raptr, or Vent/Teamspeak and I play games with those I know. There's been no worthwhile Diablo 3 info in months so I have nothing really to come here to discuss. I browse on occasion to see what's new but I rarely post anymore, and really the only thing that could make me post more would be either beta announcement, release date announcement, maybe some info on our missing class.. new gameplay footage - ANYTHING.


Also I'm not sure if I like the new forum layout and such, the website looks weird.