I always thought the mechanic of stacking up power via health globes that Power Hungry used was an interesting idea. I guess it's been sacrificed to the GR gods for boring types of buffs now :/
(note: I'm talking about the way the mechanic works not the power of the old or new passive.)
At least they're trying to push in some new spells for a couple of classes though.
I don't give a shit about using the feature, but I'm glad news sites are reporting that Blizzard is implementing this garbage. Reminds me of when they first implemented the new BNet accounts and had the brainwave of making all of their users use their real names everywhere.
Do you know how many conquests are needed for the stash tab reward? Is it the same as in S5 where HC/SC have separate but identical conquests?
/Ivar
I have no idea, I just grabbed the relevant info from the video. I hope it's not too many because those are very solo unfriendly conquests (on top of being very boring and repetitive.)
We're not saying "don't post videos" just to put the text info alongside when it's something that can be noted in a few seconds (which classes get which sets, in this case.) Would be much appreciated!
Generally speaking we try to highlight community made content like that, because it's somewhat concise and to the point, well put together, and also because some players really prefer that medium (where they're shown the new content and we're not always able to provide that).Quote from darkwarrior42»
Yay! A diablofans post that says there's useful information, but buries most if it in a youtube video!
If I wanted to watch videos for information, I'd be on Youtube >.>
But I hear your feedback and it won't fall on deaf ears! When there's content like this we'll try to present it to you guys in a thread or written format as well. For those who prefer reading it rather than seeing it shown in a live environment. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.
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Yay! A diablofans post that says there's useful information, but buries most if it in a youtube video!
If I wanted to watch videos for information, I'd be on Youtube >.>
This.
We come here to read news, not to click on youtube videos slowly reading the news to us.
Edit: Here's your news post.
S6 Gifts:
Raekor, Akkahn, Mara, Innas, Zuni, Delsere
S6 Conquests:
-TX 2min
-3x 65 Gems
-kill bosses TX x time
- GR75
- 350 monsters in cursed chest
p.s. Blizz still hates solo players, thanks.
Problem: Akkahn's sucks and LoN can do everything it can better.
Solution: Buff Akarat's Champion (to buff Akkahn's?) making LoN even better.
Roland's is actually interesting now, hammer is ..still weird but okay. Invoker's is still fine.
I love my LoN crusader, but ... Akkahn's has no use, the new horse set has no use...
No real new content for S6, just number tweaks and the leash of having to play to get the stash tab.
Akkhan's is super weak compared to all the other sets and especially LoN which basically does the same thing much better, but they aren't fixing it because they adjusted legendary gems and set dungeons? What does that have to do with it? They made unfun set dungeons a tiny bit less unfun and every set can use gems.
They aren't happy with the wings? I'm not happy with the devs.
Set Dungeons are cool in concept, but as almost every single comment on this thread (and the official one) has said, the execution is painfully bad.
Some of them are snoozefests that are almost impossible to fail (assuming you have random item x or don't have a worm pop up under you.)
Some of them are RNG (grouping ones, or the ones that thought having kill all enemies "p.s. some of the enemies are invisible worms and snake people that you cannot target for sometimes up to 10 seconds each" was a good idea.)
I haven't done a single dungeon yet that was actually fun.
Some additional stupid:
- In order to complete the firebird dungeon, I had to buy a vendor blue wand with 500dps so that I could get the 3000% damage buff onto the tiny mobs. You then need a cold immune amulet and to remove most of the vit from your gear to do the other part, basically trashing an entire Firebird set.
- In order to complete the Arachyr dungeon, I TOOK OFF MY WEAPON and finished it with no weapon because that was the only way I could do little enough damage to complete the objectives.
Also no incentive to return after completing them, making it wasted content. Thankfully, after completing them you really don't want to go back.
You can make a lot of progress without aoeing anything - remember rift progress shifted to favour killing elites and getting their globes - enough to get UE at the very least, at which point DH speedfarm becomes ridiculous.
Exacty. The worst question and most common question is: "What is the best class next season"
Best Answer: "There is no best class for everyone. We play games to have fun, the class that makes YOU have the most class, is the best class for YOU. So listen to your inner guts and desire and pick the class you FEEL like playing".
Good answer. I'm worried about DH since the "free" set is based around Impale with very little AoE capability. So your free set doesn't really help much for speed farming/rifting, or at least that's the impression I got. I tried the Monk Wave of Light build on PTR and found it to be incredibly fun and fast for T10 speed farm so I may start with Monk this season even though they don't seem to have as high solo grift potential as other classes.
Not sure on this but aren't there some conquests with both a normal and a hc version? Wouldn't doing the hc one give you 2 conquests for the price of one? (I thought achievements all worked that way but maybe not?)
Quoting this from the forum thread because it's probably more useful for solo players:
Explains several tested runs and how the exp gain worked solo vs groups etc.
here you can find the solo progression mate!
credit to GarfmAJH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2dAJCVJFM8
If you need help being told which skills to use to get from 1-70 ...
Wouldn't it be better for you to link the diablofans thread instead of or as well as the reddit version..? It is one of the most popular active threads on the site right now:
Well that was a completely unhelpful video.
Choosing a class based off the current PTR leaderboards is so misleading to the majority of players. The differences at the top aren't likely to affect most of them, nor are what they can clear indicative of the sort of specific gear, playstyle, and luck in fishing needed compared to others. This patch more than any other patch really does allow you to pick any class and any relatively balanced build and do well.
What people will let you into groups with to play is a whole 'nother story, of course, since that's based off public perception.
What other metric do you think he should have based a video which he clearly stated as speculative on? The season hasn't started yet, he just put something out to help folks get a feel for what the meta looks like based on what's happening in the ptr.
I started to write up a super long reply to this, but it got to the point where I decided to turn it into a thread:
http://www.diablofans.com/forums/diablo-iii-general-forums/diablo-iii-general-discussion/142795-what-do-i-play-in-2-4-summary here's a summary using several different metrics. If you think it's garbage, feel free to say so and suggest how it would be improved.
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The video is horrible because it's rhykker. Hes a noob making videos for other noobs. Game has been out how long now, and he managed to only get Paragon 600s. Shoots any credibility he has down the drain.
How many paragon levels do you need to have in order to know what you are talking about? How many thousands of elite kills do you need to be worthy of opening your mouth? Can you give us a breakdown of the math involved?
Having atleast 1k paragon minimum helps, Quinn69 has like 1800 now, but as long as you arent playing monk you should be fine.
Barbarian: will always be needed due to the group Ignore pain buff (50% dmg reduction is huge), zdps can group mobs, provide health globes debuff targets and of course provide dmg reduction
Wizard: great group play via twisters, highest dmg potential it seems out of all classes// great at solo as well.
DH: similar to the wizard, dhs will be needed for groups and solo play
Crusader: not really needed as much for groups, still has potential for a slot in groups but it really depends on whether WD is better.
WD: tons of group buffs, not many doing solo play, its difficult to see if HT will lag players in group, if it does WDs might be out for groups unless they go dart doc.
my answer would be Wiz>DH>BARB>WD=CRUS for the best classes.
monk is dogshit since they nerfed static into garbage, TR cold builds need a ton of rng for 13 perf ancient items. i wouldnt bother.
Okay now without disagreeing with what you said (since I'm sure you know way more about high end content than me)
How many of the people who need to be told what to play do you think any of that will actually effect? The sort of players who can even consider 13 perf ancient items tend not to need to be told what to do with them. I'd be willing to bet that none of the people coming to the site screaming "omg what is best this season what do i play" are ever going to get p1000 or gr80, nor are they going to do rifts with the mentality of fish for the right composition and then carefully group and herd enemies up. They'll just go into whatever rift and murder everything in sight (which is what I do, because it's fun.)
The thing is this means they can pretty much play anything and get the same sorts of results that they would with anything else, because all the classes are so balanced at a mid level now.
It'd be great if we could highlight just how many options there are now for average players, instead of trying to herd them all into a top level meta that should never really affect them or their midrange groups (but will, because the experts told them it did.)
Well that was a completely unhelpful video.
Choosing a class based off the current PTR leaderboards is so misleading to the majority of players. The differences at the top aren't likely to affect most of them, nor are what they can clear indicative of the sort of specific gear, playstyle, and luck in fishing needed compared to others. This patch more than any other patch really does allow you to pick any class and any relatively balanced build and do well.
What people will let you into groups with to play is a whole 'nother story, of course, since that's based off public perception.
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Poll lacks the option others have said: all we need is a personal stash. One personal tab can store all four sets and a range of legendaries specific to that character, with additional ones able to go into the usual shared tabs.
Right now I have every class and each one I'm not playing has a completely full inventory for their sets and special legendaries, and I have to keep one empty tab in stash to empty the inventory of the character I want to play into, and then do it all again if I want to play a different one. Just one personal tab would fix all of that.
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Helltooth WD or UE DH I guess? I've played too much of both of them but at least they're super reliable.
Figures that the only seasons with nice portraits are insanely hard for an average player to solo the full journey.
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Didn't Avarice used to say you couldn't do it in the Not the Cow Level? Or am I imagining that?
I've done it by accident before, so I can't imagine it'll be too hard on T13. Get gold goblin, go on kill spree.
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I completely agree with this. I played more than enough of that MMO over the years to know that being forced to team up with random people generally leads to headaches and frustration all round, whereas Diablo has a nice mix of letting us play solo (even if they make it harder from time to time) and easily being able to join with friends or strangers if you want to.
I lost interest in Hearthstone once all I had left to do was play online matches, and I stopped playing HoTS in alpha when I realised how punishing the game was if you didn't play with people on your friends list (which was doable even with the small alpha population but I don't feel like jumping through their hoops "just because.") I didn't buy Overwatch despite how nice it looks because it's solely a multiplayer team game (which seems to be the general theme these days) and I'm bored of that. Multiplayer is a great option for those who want it, but some of us still want the ability to play singleplayer too. I think they're better off offering choices for all types of gamers across a range of titles.
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Oh, my bad. Nice tracking.
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They only seem to have two sets of Conquests for seasons, and both of them have been not the best. I wonder if they'll keep the stupid stuff like "level to 70 in hardcore for no reason other than to irritate people who can't be powerleveled" in Guardian this time...
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Looking at the titles it seems like there is a new project and they separately just happen to need a graphics software engineer because one quit or something.
Despite the hate D3 always gets (and I was there at launch too, I get it) D3 today is SUCH a better game than on release, even if it does get old from time to time. I'm super bored with the past few seasons too because of so few changes, but I do think they're busy working on something else and so aren't paying much attention to D3 live.
I like the idea that they're working on a way to take ARPGs in a revolutionary new direction. Will they do it? Who knows, but Blizzard have been consistent at updating multiple genres for new generations over their history, so there's a fair chance.
Also let us not forget that despite the endless D3 sucks complaints, it's one of THE best selling PC games of all time (not sure on console sales?) Listed behind only Minecraft and WoW. That sort of selling power is something other companies would kill for: you don't abandon a franchise that has done that well. Personally, I can't wait until Gamescon when they announce the new game: Diablo Twister mobile app that allows you to use your phone as a camera and tap to make it look like you're creating energy twisters in real corners of the world.
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Oooh, they put a lot of thought into them this time!
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Well at least we got the thrill back. I do like that one. Groups seem to like Sprinter too, so that's cool for them.
Season 7 is looking to be the most "get stash tab get out" ever. Do we have the Gift sets yet? I don't see it in the thread about it.
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I don't know what "the best" or "the fastest" method to levelling is (also rifts provide different benefits too.) But it's easy for lazy people who want decent exp without too much effort (just don't let the haunts escape.)
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WD! There may be classes that are faster, but very few which are both so fast and so easy. I much prefer the smooth speed of WD to the jittery dashing of Monk, DH, and Wiz, and Barb Crusader tend to have much slower startups and melee annoys me.
For solo levelling 1-70, learn how to chain Haunt in Fields of Misery. 700+ kill combos give nice bonuses~
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I thought it might be useful to have a single thread for people wanting help with various set dungeons, since everyone will be trying them for the wings and may not have played those sets much. So post here if you can't do one.
Quin has made a load of videos demonstrating them all, but many of the dungeons have changed since then, sooo your mileage may vary from them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_Q5FNyUXBw
Things that were irritating on PTR that I got past:
- DH Shadows
You can only impale each target once - if you don't oneshot an elite, kill it with something else.
- DH Marauder's
Keep moving forward (not fast enough to run into stuff) spamming multishot and sentries, use something like smoke screen for speed movement rather than vault, because it's a lot smoother and more controllable. Be really careful anytime you need to double back. Prepare to eat many worms >.>
Nat's is a joke, Zuni's is a joke (just get the new grasp nocd offhand) Arachnyr's is a joke once you slow down enough to let the frog lick things instead of murdering everything instantly. Invoker's is really easy (don't wear trove belt so spears have time to be thrown a few times.)
A lot of the time for dungeons that needed grouping I found that firing the templar / pets helped.
Current irritating dungeons for me:
- DH Unhallowed
I am incapable of getting multishots off with enough consistency unless I spend time herding, at which point I fail due to time.
- Wizard Firebirds
I don't really get the set on fire thing since I've never gotten it off 0. Is it get the full 3000% ticking? that seems ..weird.
Also if I get weak enough to meteor then I tend to instagib afterwards anyway.
WD Jade & Helltooth, Cru Roland & Akkahn, Barb Wastes & Earth are also being annoying, but that's basically just execution. Grouping crap is annoying.
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I got a cool new news post I haven't seen before on the client?
http://i.imgur.com/ZuVYwbV.jpg
Where'd the cute crab go - I haven't seen him in ages.