Umpa65, I actually read your entire post and agree with a lot of the things you said (though, to be honest, it seems like when it comes to this movie everyone on both sides of the fence are just repeating themselves over and over again). I think it's important to think of a movie like this less as "have we experienced this idea before?" and more like "what does this new version of the idea offer us?". In many cases, the answer will just be "entertainment". In this case, though, I think there is more.
Beyond the obvious 'splosions and pretty shiny things that keep this movie interesting to the eye, the relate-ability of the characters was tremendous, despite their obvious physical differences. They still felt genuine (at least to me) within the context of the film and the na'vi were an interesting, if not totally original, group of primitive warriors.
I think, perhaps, the most important point to make about this film, though, is that James Cameron has been imagining all this since he was a child. The script was finished over 15 years ago. The only reason this story didn't exist many, many years ago was because it was not technically possible at the time. How much less 'cliche' would this story have been in 1995 than it is now? Considerably.
In the end it just comes down to personality of the viewer. What they feel they have seen enough of vs. what they care enough about to see again. What they enjoy vs. what they would rather avoid, etc, etc. As long as you watch it before you bash it, I have no problem with anyone disliking it - not to mention, as long as they let me keep my own opinion as well.
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Nyalite posted a message on [Movies] AvatarPosted in: General Discussion (non-Diablo) -
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Magistrate posted a message on Jay Wilson - A hint on the next classThe Wizard is from Xiansai, isn't she?Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
I remember when I read over the transcription of this interview and thought the same thing, but also realized even if it was a "leak", 1) we basically knew that one of the remaining classes would be some manner of ranged attacker, most likely a variation of an archer since they're in every RPG, and 2) he was either 1) really only using it as an example or 2) was confident enough that we would all be smart enough to realize that a ranged attacker is an integral part of the class archetypes and so would have to be in the game eventually, so he didn't feel particularly wrong in releasing a possible hint of it before the announcement.
My honest opinion is that it was just an example, since he used references from Diablo II and applied them theoretically to Diablo III to prove a point. -
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Hyperversity posted a message on Φ Diablo Books Chronological OrderPosted in: Lore & StorylineQuote from "Calamity" »
Also before I start ranting I should say thar I kind of enjoyed the books and will probably read the others except the last sin war book. Its like watching a really bad cheesy tv show like Buffy can sometimes be enjoyable.
I certainly don't agree with you here. I thought the politics within The Sin War Trilogy were fantasticly complex, and to point that out I am going to give you the list of the different factions and their interactionsn with one another that web them together.
You have the Three Prime Evils and their relationships with their children and followers, you have Inarius' relationship with both the Prime Evils and Angiris Council, you have Tyrael's relationship with the Angiris Council as well as with the Naphalem which are both seperate entities, and you have the Angiris Council's political relationship directly with the Prime Evils themselves. Not to mention, you have the Naphalem caught in the middle of this who could potentially be a power to be reckoned with, and you have the Mage Clans who up to this point aren't even part of the Naphalem. Oh and don't let me forget Trag' Oul, Rathma, and Mendeln who eventually become yet another faction all by themselves who are tyring simutaneously to keep all the others in check.
How many stories in general leave you a feeling of really not knowing who the bad guy is? You have Inarius betraying Heaven, and Lilith whose betrayal of Hell is essentially just as severe; both the Prime Evils and Angiris Council being equally pissed off about this. The Angiris Council, who supposedly represents total goodness, openely makes dealings with the Prime Evils essentially out of respect. Even the Naphalem could potentially become Sanctuary's worst enemy - as seen by Uldyssian's inability to control his powers - that you can't even rule them out as being the potential villian somewhere down the line. In my opinion, The Sin War Trilogy cleary deviates from the cookie-cutter fantasy stories that we've heard so many times.
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Thats the thing that dissapoints me the most ruins the books for me. All the parts with the super powerful mythical beings like Inarius and Lucion, where i expect something really cool to happen, plays out like an episode of a soap opera with some generic fantasy mixed in. The way the author portrays these beings they might as well have been powerful, influential humans, not cold, calculating inhuman overlords determined to enslave the human race to their will.
I sort of see your point here, but we need to remember that they faced Uldyssian, who was clearly created to show us the potential power of the Naphalem to identify them as one of the power houses of the universe. If the humans are helpless or significantly inferior to the Angels and Demons then you don't have a story. Lets also remember that the Naphalem are essentially half angel and half demon; it's not like they are just a normal mortal species like the wildlife in the Torajian Jungles.
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Then there is the story of Uldyssian. The unassuming nobody suddenly gains powers and wants to use them for good! Where have I read that before?
Again, you have to look at Uldyssian as the extreme case. His purpose is to show us the maximum potential of the Naphalem's powers, hince why Heaven and Hell would even want to be involved in the first place.[/quote]
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The beautiful noblewoman randomly develops a crush on a nobody. What? She had an ulterior motive? Never saw that coming.
Yeah I suppose it was obvious that she was more than she seemed but I thought her story was pretty interesting. Yes she was a demon and did horrible things to Uldyssian, but the Naphalem were her children. How far would you go to save your children? Her story is no where near cookie-cutter in my opinion.
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Also, his adventures seem really trivial and stupid. He wins his fights by really wanting to win, and his superpowers just takes care of the rest.
I suppose I was a little dissapointed in how well a mere "human" could match up against immortals from other planes of existence, but we need to remember that Uldyssian altered the Worldstone in such a way that it essentially became his world. I would assume that if they were in Heaven or Hell that he would not be able to accomplish what he did.
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Even the subplots suck. A demon in a ancient building in the jungle sends "rage" at him so he goes over ther and wishes it dead. Uh what? Thats it? Can you at least explore the building for a cool artifact?
The book explains why the spirit was restless with rage when it gives you the backstory between the demon and his angel lover. What this does is it adds yet another issue for both Heaven and Hell to focus on instead of just focusing on one another and thus making the story more complex. This "mix breeding" was esentially another way to put angels and demons on the same level instead of clearly making one of them good and one evil.
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I also got the books for the cool factor of the Diablo universe, but the author has turned it into generic fantasy. I guess i was just expecting a much darker and complex story.
The "Ask Lore Questions Here" thread is more enjoyable and informative to read than the books, ant to top it off, better written.
As someone else said, arguing about writing styles is futile and very subjective. However, I will respectfully disagree with you that the story is generic and not complex. I would have to say that having a 10-year-old child (Cedric) being skinned alive by Malic so it could be worn by a Morlu as a desguise is a pretty dark element to have in any story. I could go on but I think that illustrates my point. -
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duffman posted a message on things theyve gotten righta lot of people make threads on the bad things of diablo 3, or a list of greatest fears. lets be positive for a little bit. what has blizzard gotten right with diablo 3?Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion -
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VoXorb posted a message on Recruiting Concept ArtistsDepending on some factors I might be willing to do this.Posted in: General Discussion (non-Diablo)
Job-realted experience:
- I have never worked as a concept artist before, but i have been drawing since I was a little kid.
- I am designing websites ( html and flash) It's my part time job.
- I am studying in architecture so I have some experience with programs such as Autocad and 3ds Max.
Strong points:
- Since i'm studying architecture, I have a good knowledge of how to draw architectural entities.
- I am also equally good at drawing people/monsters and other biological organisms (as you can see in my drawings)
- I have some experience in flash/photoshop/3ds max
- I am very enthusiastic about this whole thing since it's something that has interested me since i was a kid.
Weak points:
- I tend to be a perfectionnist so sometimes it takes me a while to finish my drawings.
- I don't have a lot of experience in coloring and finalising drawings in photoshop ( I will buy a pad in the next weeks and begin studying painter).
Problems/complications:
- My semester ends in about 5 weeks, I don't know what delay you want your project to be completed in but this might be the biggest problem.
Here are some examples of things i'v drawn (I don't only draw realisticaly. Altough it's my prefered drawing style, I can do something more cartoony or abstract without problems)
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Dimebog posted a message on Narrowing down the last classesPosted in: Unannounced Class
Zeitgeist is the word you're looking for.Quote from "Atrumentis" »No, thats not the definition. The definition depends on your culture, and culture depends on the latest trend (which is what culture is). The word 'warlock' comes from the old english term 'waer logger', meaning 'covenant breaker' or 'traitor', which is why they are generally considered evil. Nowadays though, thanks to the media (like games), people now define it as just a male witch. But call a real male witch a warlock and he will likely be highly offended at being called a traitor. As I said, it depends on the latest trend and culture. The definition of every word is based on some sort of latest trend.
It does refer to only male witches being the traitors though, so yes I was wrong about there being female warlocks, but "warlock = male witch" is certainly not the only definitive term (and its certainly not a definition that isn't based on culture). -
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goodguy8705 posted a message on Tyrael 3D modelPosted in: Fan ArtQuote from name="Crysis Creed" »Dude this sucks, because it really looks nothing like Tyrael. It is not detailed enough or look anything like Tyrael to be called as such.
Learn to use constructive criticism instead of putting him down. It's a work in progress and he's not doing a bad job. It's stuff like this that causes good people to have low self esteem. -
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Found_Missing posted a message on Φ Three-Headed Demon = Diablo? - Please keep all discussion regarding the demon herePosted in: Lore & Storylineto me, diablo in the middle seems like the balrog in Lord of the rings. And can anyone tell me where you've seen diablo3 diablo pic?
Haha, I think Deckard Cain grew a beard so he could do a "YOU SHALL NOT PASS!!!" cutscene with Diablo.
The two pictures of Diablo in Diablo III so far that we've seen are from the cinematic trailer here and the splash page currently here, which is also used in the upper-left portion of the top banner of this site. -
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Kalasyra posted a message on So where is: ____Posted in: General Discussion (non-Diablo)Quote from "Atrumentis" »All things change. Its sad, but Heaven, Hell, and the World move on. Its fate.
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Siaynoq posted a message on 1st rune comparison(screenshots)Posted in: Diablo III General Discussion
That doesn't satisfy me. I still don't see why it can't be upside down. You're like, "No, it's impossible. It must be right side up!"Quote from "refraction" »yes, especially considering the others are all facing the correct way, its the lich king rune, nothing else, nothing more, its plainly obvious.
And next you'll tell me how brilliant your sarcasm is and expect me to praise you for your contrived response.Quote from "refraction" »next youll tell me that the new one in teaser isnt the protoss symbol and its actually a D2 rune if you flip it 64%, scratch your head, put soem felt tip on the screen and sqint while standing on one leg.
Seriously though, do all those things you just mentioned there and you'll see it is in fact not a Protoss symbol. - To post a comment, please login or register a new account.
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Lord Octesian's full costume set ($40) + dwarf armour set ($110)
Not sure if my information is accurate or not though, I haven't seen the film.
If Narnia was actually any good, these might be worth something.
There's actually a breastplate that goes with the armour, but its crappy non-adjustable fibreglass so it doesn't actually fit me. I'll work on fixing that.
Lord Octesian's full costume set. From what I read, Lord Octesian's ship crashed and he was washed ashore. Now the rags make sense
This is the armour set. Inside the hat it says "miner", so I assume that means dwarf, especially since everything is so small (the greaves are meant to cover the knees, but I am too tall).
U jelly?
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HERE IS A COOL SAMPLE
(You may not be able to see, but at the top it says "JESUS: THE TEENAGE YEARS"
like it on facebook and post something so it doesn't look like i'm talking to myself
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Kalan is actually Mendeln's new name. It means 'Teacher' in Trag'Oul language (while Rathma means student).
Also, I think you may be looking at words like 'find' and 'found' too closely. Its like me saying "I made a cubby house and now I have found my safeplace". Ehh I dunno.
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Hey Seth, that was a nice news post you made. You're an inspiration to us all.