I think PvP will be mega unbalanced when it releases. I can see the 200-350k dps Demon Hunters and Wizards instakilling people already. When blizzard sees this they will probably downgrade you're gear everytime you enter an arena and let skills decide who wins and not gear... or something along those lines I don't know.
Act 2 is not that bad to be honest, just you wait until you get to act 3. You WILL rage.
D3 may have a few flaws but I still enjoy the game. Overall the quality and feel of the game is very good. There are rarely good PC exclusive games so I think i'm sticking to Diablo 3 for quite some time.
1
And the few people who come here, wanting to talk about the game they enjoy just gets slandered into silence. Sad thing is, as terrible as it is here, its going even worse at the official forums... Starting to wonder if I shouldn't just ignore forums and only use diablofans for gameplay updates. :/
1
What's funny is, people say D3 lost the gothic feel, well guess what, a decade ago people said the exact same thing about D2. I remember quite clearly how people bashed the hell out of D2 on the old diablo2.net forums. People are so prone to forget, and in a few years, D3 will be seen in as high regard as D2, once all the small issues are out of the way.
I'd say D3's story is in line with D2, it's there to get you to kill demons, and that's where it succeeded.
I liked the story because it portrayed the High Heavens very well, and it felt like a good chapter in the Diablo series. I can go from Act to Act and break down what I enjoyed, but I'm not going to. Let's just say, I enjoyed it, you didn't. Different strokes for different folks.
1
Why loose your mind? Why threaten Blizzard or the game fans? Why freak out as if your very existence have come into question? And some points just feel so moot and extreme that I can't help wonder why some people bother splitting hairs.
"Inferno is such a lolfest, I can't believe they're considering nerfing it. Blizzard is such a joke."
"Inferno is impossible, I've farmed the Butcher for a week and still get one shots in Act II. **** this game."
"The story is worse than ever. D2 made me stop and reflect on the importance of my own self worth with every word of dialogue, but Blizzard threw it all out of the window."
"The builds are worthless. You promised like a million configurations, but only one doesn't suck so go to hell Blizzard."
"The itemization in Diablo is gone. I can't believe Blizzard expects us to use such crappy gear. D2 had billions of awesome items, and charms, and runes, and jewels. This game ruined Diablo... forever."
"AH destroyed the game economy. I can't play it ever again, even though I never buy or sell any items, it degrades my play experience in every way."
These are just a few examples, although they are mostly the predominant ones. What I don't get is how this degrades from a person's experience to just play the game and strive to have fun...
-Inferno was tested by likely less than a hundred testers. How can anyone expect Blizzard to have the difficulty 100% correct for a few million players? They are still ironing out the kinks and it will take some time, but positive feedback will definitely improve the flow of the game.
-Let's be honest. Diablo games have always had basic storylines. While the lore is quite detailed, the basic premise of the game is all set up as a big excuse to get you from demon A to demon B, while killing all the little demons waiting in between. If you really expected something profoundly moving, then I'm sure you were at such a young back when you played D2 that even its simplistic tale seemed awe inspiring.
-As for items and skills, no matter what D2 did or accomplished, it's impossible for a new game to be 100% evened out. Unless they copied everything from D2 straight over into this game, the mechanics would never have been perfect. Maybe some of you wanted this, in which case, go play D2. D2 never had crafting and the gems were useless in light of runes. The skills weren't granted as you leveled and didn't have rune effects. D2 didn't have an end game wall where items needed to be balanced around. Gold was worthless and runes stood at the center of its economy. In so many ways Blizzard needed to rethink the way the game flowed and functioned, and yes there are a lot of kinks, but D2 also had at launch. D2 was a huge jump away from D1 and also needed time to find it's footing. D3 is just as big a leap into unknown territory and so it too requires time to get its specific details right.
-As for AH. People have said that 'if you don't like it, then don't use it', They usually receive quite a bit of backlash. I don't understand why, because to me they are correct. I have 2 friends who use the AH and 2 who don't, and I refrain from using it. I farm Inferno, a lot, and I like to craft. While I do lag a bit behind my two friends, I'm actually keeping up. I struggle a bit, but don't really mind. I just keep on farming when I can and enjoy playing with my friends, and to me that's what lies at the heart of every Diablo game, and why I think D3 is a success.
This post turned out longer than I wanted, but what I'm basically trying to say is:
Just enjoy the game for what it is, a flawed gem, very much like D2 during it's early period. The greatness will come after. Good things are on the horizon, and know that Blizzard is listening. They've changed their minds about legendary items, which is brilliant. If we remain vocal and rationally voice what we want, then they will listen and this will be the best Diablo, if not the best game, ever.
Edit: Please read the post if you intend to flame me in any way, but please take note. This post is intended to be a constructive drive to better the game, so please keep this thread constructive.
2
I proudly call myself a fan, so thanks for that. This game is better of without you, so now you can go play whatever game you like, and we get to play D3 without you dragging us all down.
This game is a good step forward for ARPGs and the best out so far, and from here it will just get better. If you don't agree, InfidelMan and Klusterboy will show you the way to the door.
4
Nope, just can't see why, even if I try. I think people had unreasonable expectations when it came to D3, very, very very, very unreasonable. Yes the servers aren't up to scratch, and yes AH seems necessary, but the game is good, very good. In fact the foundation is a lot better than D2 without LoD ever was. They will sort out the servers, and they are already working on the items.
If you plan to move on, then it would only be your loss. In a year's time, when they announce the brilliant additions coming with the upcoming expansion, you will see the rest of us playing our hearts out and enjoying it.
1
Seriously though, this game is a lot of fun. If you actually take the time to see what these so-called 'fans' are moaning about, you'd see it goes along the lines of, "Inferno is too hard, I can't do everything on my first run through", "legendary items aren't the most epic gear ever, this game is fail", "AH ruined the game, even though you said we will have to farm the hell out of each act to progress to the next one, and that AH is an option where you can get gear for money, wah wah wah", "the story didn't go how I wanted it to go, so therefor I'm sure it must be lame"... I'm don't even go onto the official forums anymore, the stupidity over there is rampant.
What insipid whining little spoiled brats don't seem to understand is, all these complaints are so, so, so very minor, it's barely even game breaking. The foundation of the game is insanely solid, and Blizzard is already working on a lot of the issues (valid issues, mind you) that the real fans have been asking about. Give the game time and it will far exceed the fun LoD brought to D2 back in the day.
5
The point I'm trying to make is, these items are the stuff of legend. Izual once stormed hell with Azurewrath in hand, Tyrael stripped himself of his mighty armor and it fell with him to Sanctuary, Natalya grew into such a legend that her tools of death became sought after items by the demon hunter's themselves. That's the stigma these items carry.
While these items should be good, that's not the point of these items, they miss their true potential. When I find a legendary item that works for me, I'd want to wear it for many levels, or at least a good chunk through Inferno. They should either work, or not work for you at all.
I really think Blizzard should rethink legendary items and maybe even sets. What these items should accomplish is a profound strength in your heroes hands. Not just good stats, but really give your character something worthwhile. D2 went the route of adding unique specific affixes. While that is good, I feel it's just a first step. When you find a unique it should grant you a boon unlike any other, whether it's useful to your class or not is irrelevant. The point is, when you find one, you should look at it in awe.
For heaven's sake, these items are supposed to be the stuff of legend. Why would Blizzard settle to make them okayish static items with random properties when they can clearly be so much more? Don't just bump their stats to crazy height, make them items worth a players attention.
1
I'd like it if these two stats could at least be raise to be a bit more prominent. For instance, if I find gloves with lower Int than the ones I'm carrying, but it has a good amount of Dex, I'd like to stop for a moment and wonder if the trade off of lowering my damage by a bit would be worth the good amount of dodge I'd be gaining. That's what I mean. A good Dex item should still be for the DH and monk, but I'd appreciate it if the stats rolled on items would at least carry some incentives for me to mull over, instead of me just looking for a few very valuable affixes that trumps all others.
P.S. In no way am I trying to appear as if I'm whining. This is just a extra dynamic that I've noticed late game that I'd like to be present.
1
1.
moving or able to move, operate, function, or take effect quickly; quick; swift; rapid: a fast horse; a fast pain reliever; a fast thinker.
2.
done in comparatively little time; taking a comparatively short time: a fast race; fast work.
Yay for you, you just learned that fast has more than one meaning... who exactly is the illiterate one here?
Tyrael said many times he became mortal, and said many times 'like you', but never once does he or any other character call him nephalem or human. So, if common sense played any role in this matter, then you'd know that they are referring to the mortal - as in perishable - meaning of the word, and not indirectly calling him human.
Thus it makes your claim that they are referring to it's second meaning (mortal being human) void.
Justice failed in the High Heavens, He renounced himself as an angel, because his role as Archangel of Justice was essentially pointless. My point was that he knew the High Heaven's couldn't succeed, so he came to gain mortal aid, but if you don't believe me, maybe his own words can change your mind:
"I knew then that Heaven was doomed unless I could enlist the aid of man against the coming onslaught of Hell."
Yes, he did renounce his role because Heaven had no intention to intervene on Sanctuary, so Tyrael went to Sanctuary to intervene. Thus, he fell to Sanctuary to aid the nephalem in their fight.
Why did you choose to nitpick a point that has nothing to do with your ham-fisted 'Tyrael is human' argument.
How many more times will you make enforce your own limited understanding of the story, imprinting your own failure to grasp what's clearly stated in game, and be continually fail to hold ground, even when others prove you wrong. You have no creditability, at all.
1
Does any of this make any sense to you? Because clearly everyone here understand that, you're the only one who can't seem to grasp this concept.
This is a fantasy realm. Ever noticed illusions in the game? So, you'll find that acceptable, then how are you so resistant to a being taken on the form of another? Is it impossible in your realm of thought to imagine that a powerful being such as an Archangel of the High Heavens can shift one form to bind it within another? You must find fantasy a very challenging subject to understand.
Actually, this proves my point. Leah said he was one of us, as in mortal. She didn't in any way refer to him as human. Tyrael said he fell willingly, now notice the semicolon, this means a break from the first thought to add another point onto it. Then he said humanity has the greatest chance to overcome the evil. Did he in anyway say, I became human, because only as a human can we defeat the evils.
No, he stated that he fell willingly, as in left the angels by choice, because he knew they had no chance to stand against what lies ahead. He added onto his point that humans are the only hope to defeating the evils, which is why he chose a mortal shell to aid them. In no way did he call himself human.
Abal_Darkwind summed up your arguments best:
Time and again we show you reason, and prove the point with in game referencing. Just because you claim it's not true, or you don't understand what we're saying doesn't mean its not so. The game itself is proving your statements wrong.