Well so far I like all the changes except 2, so I think its time to voice my last problem. First one was for pay for items. But this one will ruin my style of pvp- respawning during a pvp round (this is the only pvp mode in arena)
I personally like playing 2 vs 2 and when 1 dies they stay dead for that round... I CANT stand when people just keep coming for more.. I like feeling the rush of not dying the first time around. Now that doesn't even matter.
Or does everyone like this system of fighting the same person multi times in 1 round of pvp?
I hope they atleast give us the option. Theres no point of not letting the option stay for people who want it.
Its called death match and its 1 of the oldest forms player vs player in shooters and other genres, and it was like this in Diablo 2 as well, just we used to do free for all outside of town
I for one couldnt be happier about this, i don't want to sit and wait for minutes like in wow if i happen to die fast, this is fast paced action packed game and pvp shouldnt be any different when it comes to the tempo.
I didnt care much for the pvp aspect when they announced the arena crap, but now im actually hyped that they are keeping it simple like in Diablo 2 with going hostile.
yes yes except most of the pvp in D2 was dueling with ladders
Tell me how a hack and slash, unbalanced, none rank or ladder, with no loses and possibly no wins, ability to buy items with real money game become a e-sport just by a arena stay dead till next round, mode?
People sound like a broken record repeating what blizzard says all the time like they are a dictionary of how diablo 3 should be
Hey, don't get me wrong.. I'm not saying "Screw the other mode". I wouldn't mind if it were there because I'd play it myself. But my standing ground is that, well.. "It is what it is". I'm happy that D3 is coming out, period. Wherever they take it in any aspect of game-play, it still seems like it will be a GREAT game. There's no point in crying over spilled milk like most of you are doing. Instead be happy with wtf you're getting instead of sounding like a bunch of little whiny bitches. I mean if they add the other mode as an option, hey GREAT, that's cool. But if they don't get the fuck over it.
Also, who are you to say Jay Wilson is wrong? I'm sure his track record with creating successful games is MUCH better than yours, assuming yours even exists.
And uhh, if you're going to play D3 either way, why are you complaining about it?
You guys all sound like a bunch of girls. Seriously.
So doesn't mean our suggestions would make the game better
your logic is so fucking bad
So because Jay Wilson is a dev ALL HIS IDEAS will be better than the rest of the world's
Yeah it will be a good game but why not make it better retard?
I didn't have a problem with one death per round but I prefer respawns over it. What is better than killing someone once? Killing them twice. After that? Killing them thrice! Hat trick! That will get some people raging, looking forward to it.
I too think that blizzard should have kept in more options though. The game isn't out yet, so they can still put the one death per round in again if they want.
When u kill some1 9000 times in 1 min it gets boring really fast.
How would you know? You weren't invited to play the new PVP mode were you.. ? It's pretty stupid how all of you are "omg this sucks so bad boo hoo boo hoo", when you guys haven't even tried it out to determine how fun or not fun it is. If you don't like it, don't play it. Pretty simple if you ask me. :/
we know how a PvP style works we have played other PvP games
HERPA DERPA
Uhh.. and your point being? Just because you've played other PVP games, it's going to be the exact same quality playing D3 PVP as it is in other games? Man you have some great analysis skills, let me tell you. I mean come on.. "Hey I've played other PVP games, so I know how sucky Diablo 3 PVP will be even though I've yet to play the PVP mode, or wait.. better yet! I've not even played Diablo 3, period!" <- How stupid do you sound?
"HERPA DERPA" :/
You dont seem to understand the concept of understanding how the pvp mechanics are going to work when they are discribed exactly for you is pretty easy. Diablo is point to click with skills and round revives, is it really that hard for you to understand how its going to work?
-----------------------------------------
Saying you dont want a very very populare game mode thats a tribute of the diablo way to fight (thats more competitive) just because you personally dont care about it, has to be the most ignorant and selfish things people can say.
I understand how the PVP mechanics are going to work perfectly fine. I also know what Diablo is and how it plays. I ALSO did PVP matches in Diablo 2 quite alot. I ALSOOO really don't understand how you've come under all these impressions that I don't get or understand any of these things.
So, let me start by saying that I never made any statement in regards to myself not wanting the "Wait for respawn" mode, it seems fun, although it seems more like an e-sport, which was exactly why it was removed in the first place since Jay stated that he wasn't making PVP into an e-sport. (Understand that?) Also I can't see how the currently implemented mode is much of a difference from the PVP in Diablo 2? You could instantly respawn in D2, the only thing was that you had to get your body to get your gear. Which in any case, this only took what.. ? About 30 seconds assuming that you had enough skill to pilot yourself around people trying to kill you. So let's compare.. a 30 second wait, compared to what could potentially be a 3 minute wait just to kill again? Yeah man, that seems appropriate and TOTALLY like PVP in D2!
I 'personally' think that the new method in PVP is going to much more fun. Yes, I do realize this method is not quite as challenging as the previous method, but still non-the-less I can picture it being just as fun, if not more. Come on now.. a continuous slaughterhouse of newbs? How does that NOT sound appealing?
Oh, and one last thing.. I never said I didn't care about it. What I was saying was more along the lines of, maybe you guys should be happy with what you have instead of what you don't, and stop crying like little school girls who just got gum in their hair. CUT IT OUT ALREADY!
CAN PEOPLE STOP MENTIONING E-SPORT... PLEASE
this has nothing to do with e-sports
According to Jay Wilson, this has everything to do with e-sports.. and I'm pretty sure last time I checked he was the one making the game?
Yeah, and he's fucking wrong. We don't want an e-sport, and it will never become and e-sport no matter what they do
I didn't have a problem with one death per round but I prefer respawns over it. What is better than killing someone once? Killing them twice. After that? Killing them thrice! Hat trick! That will get some people raging, looking forward to it.
I too think that blizzard should have kept in more options though. The game isn't out yet, so they can still put the one death per round in again if they want.
When u kill some1 9000 times in 1 min it gets boring really fast.
How would you know? You weren't invited to play the new PVP mode were you.. ? It's pretty stupid how all of you are "omg this sucks so bad boo hoo boo hoo", when you guys haven't even tried it out to determine how fun or not fun it is. If you don't like it, don't play it. Pretty simple if you ask me. :/
we know how a PvP style works we have played other PvP games
HERPA DERPA
Uhh.. and your point being? Just because you've played other PVP games, it's going to be the exact same quality playing D3 PVP as it is in other games? Man you have some great analysis skills, let me tell you. I mean come on.. "Hey I've played other PVP games, so I know how sucky Diablo 3 PVP will be even though I've yet to play the PVP mode, or wait.. better yet! I've not even played Diablo 3, period!" <- How stupid do you sound?
"HERPA DERPA" :/
You dont seem to understand the concept of understanding how the pvp mechanics are going to work when they are discribed exactly for you is pretty easy. Diablo is point to click with skills and round revives, is it really that hard for you to understand how its going to work?
-----------------------------------------
Saying you dont want a very very populare game mode thats a tribute of the diablo way to fight (thats more competitive) just because you personally dont care about it, has to be the most ignorant and selfish things people can say.
I understand how the PVP mechanics are going to work perfectly fine. I also know what Diablo is and how it plays. I ALSO did PVP matches in Diablo 2 quite alot. I ALSOOO really don't understand how you've come under all these impressions that I don't get or understand any of these things.
So, let me start by saying that I never made any statement in regards to myself not wanting the "Wait for respawn" mode, it seems fun, although it seems more like an e-sport, which was exactly why it was removed in the first place since Jay stated that he wasn't making PVP into an e-sport. (Understand that?) Also I can't see how the currently implemented mode is much of a difference from the PVP in Diablo 2? You could instantly respawn in D2, the only thing was that you had to get your body to get your gear. Which in any case, this only took what.. ? About 30 seconds assuming that you had enough skill to pilot yourself around people trying to kill you. So let's compare.. a 30 second wait, compared to what could potentially be a 3 minute wait just to kill again? Yeah man, that seems appropriate and TOTALLY like PVP in D2!
I 'personally' think that the new method in PVP is going to much more fun. Yes, I do realize this method is not quite as challenging as the previous method, but still non-the-less I can picture it being just as fun, if not more. Come on now.. a continuous slaughterhouse of newbs? How does that NOT sound appealing?
Oh, and one last thing.. I never said I didn't care about it. What I was saying was more along the lines of, maybe you guys should be happy with what you have instead of what you don't, and stop crying like little school girls who just got gum in their hair. CUT IT OUT ALREADY!
Uhh.. and your point being? Just because you've played other PVP games, it's going to be the exact same quality playing D3 PVP as it is in other games? Man you have some great analysis skills, let me tell you. I mean come on.. "Hey I've played other PVP games, so I know how sucky Diablo 3 PVP will be even though I've yet to play the PVP mode, or wait.. better yet! I've not even played Diablo 3, period!" <- How stupid do you sound?
"HERPA DERPA" :/
U know its not so hard to understand what tdm is and what lms is. Only 1 sounding stupid here are you. Get real.
It's how TDM works. You have a set time in which to fight the other team and get as many kills as possible. It is much more of a Diablo/fast paced system than the previous set up they had presented.
I didn't have a problem with one death per round but I prefer respawns over it. What is better than killing someone once? Killing them twice. After that? Killing them thrice! Hat trick! That will get some people raging, looking forward to it.
I too think that blizzard should have kept in more options though. The game isn't out yet, so they can still put the one death per round in again if they want.
When u kill some1 9000 times in 1 min it gets boring really fast.
How would you know? You weren't invited to play the new PVP mode were you.. ? It's pretty stupid how all of you are "omg this sucks so bad boo hoo boo hoo", when you guys haven't even tried it out to determine how fun or not fun it is. If you don't like it, don't play it. Pretty simple if you ask me. :/
we know how a PvP style works we have played other PvP games
IM FROM ARGENTINA AND I FUCKING REFUSE TO PLAY ON ANY LATIN AMERICAN SERVER ON ANY GAME
Srsly, the Latin American community is so stupid in general (atleast the people i've talked to) and they always end up sucking and asking me questions 24/7 (except some who I have become friends with)
You were always fighting the same person multiple times. In the old arena, you just did it in multiple rounds.
I am happy with this change. I would hate to die right off the bat and have to sit there and wait for up to 3 mins while the rest dueled it out. Either way, we are fighting the same team for the same duration. They just got rid of people having to wait to fight again. Looking at the old videos, it seems that the rounds ended too quickly anyway. Why wait for a whole fresh reset when you can just keep the action going in the same round.
You dont understand pvp at all. Its all about comepletly pwning your opponents and puting them to the ground. If they come back in like 5 sec you havent done very much and they dont feel pwned. If they release this game with a system like that its never gonna be an esport. Its like counter strike vs call of duty. And we all know how boring black ops is.
It's not supposed to be an esport and Blizzard has stated that they will not support any content or functionality that tries to turn it into an esport. pvp is sposed to just be for casually trying out your builds on other players.
Don't get me wrong, I love no respawn pvp modes but i also understand where blizz is coming from on this. It would be nice if they could implement both but I am not an expert on what sort of support and work doing that would require and I trust that Blizzard has thought this through and is making the right choices.
Can people stop god damn copying what Blizzard says thinking that they seem intelligent
The problem with separating skill effects for PvE and PvP is that it creates confusion, especially for the players that won't PvP very often and therefore won't get used to the PvP specific effects. It is much easier for most players to learn how the skills work if they have near identical effects in PvE. With that said they are not turning their backs to PvP balance completely. Both cooldowns and crowd control durations are adjusted for PvP, but not damage and the basic function of the skill.
The only thing that makes me a little sad is that they won't support additional PvP modes. I would love to play some Capture the Flag and King of the Hill, but that won't be possible. When the goal is not simply to kill the opponent there are some significant advantages to playing certain classes/builds. I hope that they will come up with some game modes that are balanced enough to be included in the future, even if none of them are of the conventional type we are used to.
Ughhhhhhh I hate games that are so focused on casuals
let them god damn learn the game instead of simplifying everything
how stupid does blizzard think our gaming generation is? I'm guessing 80IQ> average
0
no idiot that's not me
0
0
0
I stated I don't want an e-sport
I stated the game can't become one even if it gets as competitive as possible
He shouldn't fucking be concerned about the game becoming an e-sport
0
So doesn't mean our suggestions would make the game better
your logic is so fucking bad
So because Jay Wilson is a dev ALL HIS IDEAS will be better than the rest of the world's
Yeah it will be a good game but why not make it better retard?
0
he's wrong
0
CAN PEOPLE STOP MENTIONING E-SPORT... PLEASE
this has nothing to do with e-sports
0
1
0
we know how a PvP style works we have played other PvP games
HERPA DERPA
0
Casual will pick: TDM
Real PvPers will pick: LMS
0
0
Srsly, the Latin American community is so stupid in general (atleast the people i've talked to) and they always end up sucking and asking me questions 24/7 (except some who I have become friends with)
0
Can people stop god damn copying what Blizzard says thinking that they seem intelligent
What we want is nothing that resembles an esport
we only want some competitiveness
0
Ughhhhhhh I hate games that are so focused on casuals
let them god damn learn the game instead of simplifying everything
how stupid does blizzard think our gaming generation is? I'm guessing 80IQ> average