I think its safe to assume that any perfect stats exalted grand crafted item will be the highest of worth and will probably be available to people who spend hundreds of dollars on a game. Just like in D2, if you wanted to go absolutely perfect, you had to put in a whole lot of effort. And doing that without jsp or real money will be quite hard and might take months to years.
If i have a level 60 with an ok gear, i would spend some money on that one item that would make my gear close to perfect. But it probably wont be more than 20$ a month... Hell, i'd say 50$ is not that bad to be honest. But not on a regular basis.
It'll take until what d2 took: dupers and botters lol. The only way itll take years is if there really isnt any bots or dupes. Once high quality stuff starts to magically appear, you'll know something's amiss.
Yea i wrote that post assuming that there will infact be no bots or dupes. But you are right the probability of that happening is quite high.
I have the same optimism lol. Diablo 2 was a lot of fun when everyone didnt have the best items in the game, simply because more things were worth something. You could actually have a really high ed blue sword or something and someone would actually want it.
You could wear medium worth gear, and most stuff was worth putting on. Once bots and dupers rolled in, it changed pretty dramatically to everything being worth nothing but the best dupes and perfect items, only becuase they were in such abundance.
I'm hoping the cut Blizzard takes gives us a better/more robust team monitoring and fixing this stuff then d2 had.
You are bragging about crafting a lvl 13 BLUE sword and selling it for profit. Do you know how easy the blue sword is compared to the crafting you are gonna have to do for the items people want endgame? Crafting is a gamble. It isnt now, because you are crafting low lvl blues which are probably far easier to roll decent then the rares and whatnot people are gonna actually want endgame.
You do have to get lucky when things actually start mattering. Blue swords at lvl 13 mean about zilch, especially in the ease in which you are able to create them.
So, in essence you are gonna have to make a decision. Do you gamble with your mats going for the homerun shot, or do you sell your mats going for the steady profit and income. That is gonna be the decision gamers have to make. Making the items will be a huge gamble. I doubt itll pay off to as many people nearly as much as making a low lvl blue sword. Maybe it does, and in that case lots of people will do it.
If I was just gonna play the game, I would craft. If I was gonna try and make some money, I would take the safe bet and sell most of the mats. Personally, depending on how it goes, I'm gonna sell every mat I can unless items are easier to roll which I seriously doubt. Will this cut me out of the big lottery ticket roll that could happen? Yes it could.
But as they say, if add up all those 1-2 dollar lottery tickets you blew trying to win 50,000 bucks, you would have 50,000 bucks.
Edit: after reading and commenting on some of these and joining in, it really seems you, Marcko, and this Stabsey character are really running a con here or something. I mean hes a mod on your forum, probably a friend, and he posts follow ups on all your stuff like some info commercial host thats suprised by what you came up with.
This is quite possibly one of the stupidest things I've read on a forum today. Marco, are you just grasping at straws to be some kind of e famous here? Are you running out of material to the point you have to get literal enough with "buy low, sell high" to change it to "buy low, sell normal?"
This is just retarded. This took a whole thread, and not even that, you managed to circle the drain with enough words to flesh out bullcrap sentences and paragraphs like a retarded kid taking swings at a pinata. I cant believe you managed to vomit that much BS onto my screen only to change the saying from high to normal.
Dumb. GTFO with your fake economic wannabe garbage about common sayings with a central meaning that apparently you were too pompus and stupid to figure out. Buy it for less, sell it for more then you bought it for.
I might be ok with this if I had a beta key. Sadly, I do not.
Meh...it was about 2 weeks of entertainment.
I got more enjoyment out of "Orcs must Die" tbh.
Yea, these people dont realize exactly how limited this beta is. Its not even a beta, its a demo. I dont understand why it is even running this long, you arent beta testing anything but server stability. You telling me they couldn't get this stability worked out a month ago?
And that entertainment was about a week for me.
I'm pretty frustrated it took this long. Will I still buy it? Of course. However, I hope D3 is scrutinized heavily, with a microscope and no quarter given for all these pushbacks. If they are really pushing this game back to polish it like this, it better be pristine.
I'm personally fed up with shoddy releases after years of waiting for games that are "when its done." I, and most critics/us, give Blizzard way too much leway on every release no matter how crappy it comes out the box because there is always some magic there that makes you deal with the bugs/etc. D2 at release was flat out horrible. You guys remember that mess? extremely long ques, horrible lag, dropping all the time, class imbalances(sup corpse explosion and Whirlwind). But we delt with it and proclaimed the game best ever.
If any of you played WoW, remember that mess? same deal, server problems, couldnt even play sometimes, imbalances, and we waited what 3+ years for "when its done"
I'm tired of the moniker, "when its done" when it is never done. Always problems, and they always get a pass. I hope they get absolutely reamed if this launch fails. While they would/always fix it, they deserve some serious bad press if it is a failure so maybe they learn their lesson next time. Tired of looking through rose-colored glasses even if Blizz is one of my favorite developers.
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I have the same optimism lol. Diablo 2 was a lot of fun when everyone didnt have the best items in the game, simply because more things were worth something. You could actually have a really high ed blue sword or something and someone would actually want it.
You could wear medium worth gear, and most stuff was worth putting on. Once bots and dupers rolled in, it changed pretty dramatically to everything being worth nothing but the best dupes and perfect items, only becuase they were in such abundance.
I'm hoping the cut Blizzard takes gives us a better/more robust team monitoring and fixing this stuff then d2 had.
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You do have to get lucky when things actually start mattering. Blue swords at lvl 13 mean about zilch, especially in the ease in which you are able to create them.
So, in essence you are gonna have to make a decision. Do you gamble with your mats going for the homerun shot, or do you sell your mats going for the steady profit and income. That is gonna be the decision gamers have to make. Making the items will be a huge gamble. I doubt itll pay off to as many people nearly as much as making a low lvl blue sword. Maybe it does, and in that case lots of people will do it.
If I was just gonna play the game, I would craft. If I was gonna try and make some money, I would take the safe bet and sell most of the mats. Personally, depending on how it goes, I'm gonna sell every mat I can unless items are easier to roll which I seriously doubt. Will this cut me out of the big lottery ticket roll that could happen? Yes it could.
But as they say, if add up all those 1-2 dollar lottery tickets you blew trying to win 50,000 bucks, you would have 50,000 bucks.
Edit: after reading and commenting on some of these and joining in, it really seems you, Marcko, and this Stabsey character are really running a con here or something. I mean hes a mod on your forum, probably a friend, and he posts follow ups on all your stuff like some info commercial host thats suprised by what you came up with.
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Only smart thing your doing is trying to sell your own site, so i guess kudos to you.
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This is just retarded. This took a whole thread, and not even that, you managed to circle the drain with enough words to flesh out bullcrap sentences and paragraphs like a retarded kid taking swings at a pinata. I cant believe you managed to vomit that much BS onto my screen only to change the saying from high to normal.
Dumb. GTFO with your fake economic wannabe garbage about common sayings with a central meaning that apparently you were too pompus and stupid to figure out. Buy it for less, sell it for more then you bought it for.
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Yea, these people dont realize exactly how limited this beta is. Its not even a beta, its a demo. I dont understand why it is even running this long, you arent beta testing anything but server stability. You telling me they couldn't get this stability worked out a month ago?
And that entertainment was about a week for me.
I'm pretty frustrated it took this long. Will I still buy it? Of course. However, I hope D3 is scrutinized heavily, with a microscope and no quarter given for all these pushbacks. If they are really pushing this game back to polish it like this, it better be pristine.
I'm personally fed up with shoddy releases after years of waiting for games that are "when its done." I, and most critics/us, give Blizzard way too much leway on every release no matter how crappy it comes out the box because there is always some magic there that makes you deal with the bugs/etc. D2 at release was flat out horrible. You guys remember that mess? extremely long ques, horrible lag, dropping all the time, class imbalances(sup corpse explosion and Whirlwind). But we delt with it and proclaimed the game best ever.
If any of you played WoW, remember that mess? same deal, server problems, couldnt even play sometimes, imbalances, and we waited what 3+ years for "when its done"
I'm tired of the moniker, "when its done" when it is never done. Always problems, and they always get a pass. I hope they get absolutely reamed if this launch fails. While they would/always fix it, they deserve some serious bad press if it is a failure so maybe they learn their lesson next time. Tired of looking through rose-colored glasses even if Blizz is one of my favorite developers.