1. Yes but also debatable. For example the Wizard's Magic Missile (Lvl1) vs Blizzard spell (L26). Is Blizzard better? Sure but you can't spam it like you can with Magic Missile. And if you take the correct passives, MM will even generate AP for you so you can almost spam Blizzard. That's the fun part of the new Active/passive/Rune system.
2. Yes. Magic Missile at level 1 does NOT do 40-61 dmg like it does at level 60. And yes, you get tired of using Magic Missile and just found an awesome weapon that does crazy dmg, switch out your skills to Spectral Blade and now you're a melee wizard.
3. I've heard many different versions on this, but there is no Official word on this. Runes are swappable but not sure if once socketed, are they only for that specific skill. Meaning you can swap runes, but what happens to the rune that just got taken out is unclear.
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I completely disagree on Skills. I truly love the new skill design for all classes. It takes a lot more thought to create so many skills/runes, most of which are fun. And as noted by so many and as Blizzard had intended, no 2 persons are using the same build.
In D2, the skill tree was in essense a lazy attempt at leveling. +1 skill point = +5% dmg, that's lazy design today but ground breaking in 2000. Part of the reason people quit after normal in D2 was because leveling was boring if you didn't buy into the farming for gear concept. Saving skill points up to dump them into specific ones is not great design.
In D3, many more players are leveling to 60 cos it seems like it's part of the game. Also, getting new runes is fun. While it's true that some runes are lackluster, some are totally awesome and change the spell completely. Is every single rune awesome? No. But with 100+ runes per class, that's to be expected. So too is tying dmg to gear instead of char level, no one wants to manually balance 500+ skills and items as well.
From Hydra's to Time Stop, 7 sided strike to firebomb, Plague of toads to Rapid fire. there are some very unique skills I've never seen before. Each class is fun to play. Name one other game with this wealth and variety of skills. I love going to inferno and trying out a different set of skills just to see if it is viable.
Best part of it is you can switch up and use whichever skill you want without needing to reroll a new character.
And proof is in the pudding. Even in inferno, most players I've seen use different builds.
Your Opinion.
Got news for you Diablo2 Classic had no end game either and difficulity levels even in Hell were a joke. If you think comparing a 12 year old game with 1 expansion and over 13 patches vs a 1 month old game is fair then... I can't say anything.
Itemization in D2 Classic was crap too. Also, D2 had the same cheap mechanics in disguise, or did you forget elites that could be immune to up to 2 damage types.
I am not blind to D3's short comings. There are to my mind 4 glaring issues with D3. 3 being addressed and 1 hopefully in the future
(1) Stats on Legendary/Set items
(2) Lower level not dropping upgrade items
(2) Crazy Spike dmg in Inferno
(3) Only a few item Affixes are sought after for each class
As for the end game, I'm fully plan to level every character to 60. And wonder of wonders, I actually think I can create a hardcore character and get him past Nightmare, which is on my to do list, whereas in D2 it was kind of pointless to me.
And all this will hopefully last me till the expansion. (with 8 million sold, an expansion is 100% confirmed). Where I hope lessons learnt will result in more than just an inferno mode for the end game.
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To an extent yes.
If his criticisms pointed out to specific issues with the game, I could accept that. But his opinion, as you put it, essentially said that NOTHING about Diablo 3 is redeemable. Essentially it is a PoS, which I disagree with completely.
You can dislike a game, you can disagree completely with all the decisions made by the team etc. But a discriminating person can still agree that it is well made. I dislike FPS games and games with 1st person view. But I can still appreciate that games like Call of Duty, etc are well made, just not for me. Borderlands was fun but the color palette did not appeal to me and I would have liked a 3rd person view.
But people dropping one liners and trying to be quip ..., people who post only to incite flame wars, that I have an issue with and my remarks stand with no apology.
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Many might disagree with some design decisions made, but the end result is a fun game and in the spirit of the diablo franchise. No other game since D2 has even come close. They are not perfect, especially since this is a completely new group, new classes, new engine, new design concepts, they have made some mis-steps but nothing that they are not addressing currently.
If you're so narrow minded to even ask "What did they do right" then sadly my opinion of your intelligence and maturity is vastly diminished. Not that in your immaturity would care.
In fact if D3 is such a mess to you, do us all a favor and find another game. Spare us your presence in these forums.
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AH has no effect on drop rates in the game. And if you don't trust a blue post then... well no point in discussing further.
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Some folks somewhere out there got to Inferno Act 3 & 4 without the uber loot, either through great group dynamics or just plain perseverance. Using the AH makes life easier, but farming gold is a choice.
Also, just level an alt and wait for Patch 1.03, I'll say it again D2 is only fun because it has had 13 patches applied over 12 years.
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MapleStory
Raknarok Online
Runes of Magic
Lineage 2
Wizard101
All of them offer at least +XP bonus or travel movement bonus items you can buy. They are all successful, all making profits, some larger than others and they have active communities.
If you want to talk successful by number of subscribers, MapleStory has over 100 million subscribers. Lineage 2 has about 17 million. But active subscribers are harder to pin down. But Nexon who runs MapleStory (and several other games) posted a 2012 Q1 revenue earnings of US$380.3 million
You might think cash shops in games are stupid, just like I think skinny jeans are stupid. That's just an opinion, and in the US, many share your opinion, but selling items in online games are a global business and it is a proven, legimate, and wanted thing.
Time to jump out of your well Mr. Frog
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If someone has the money and is willing fork it out for X uber item, how does this affect your gameplay? You can only ever have 4 persons in a co-op game. Every semi-serious D3 player will have at least 1 lvl 60 character. So again, how does this in any way affect your character or your game aside from your delicate sensibilities.
Also please stop making wide ranging remarks essentially boiling down to asian countries having no morals and how the western countries are such paragons. The asian culture is very straight forward and simple in some aspects. People want those +XP items or uber items for sale and so the developers have included them into the game. The evidence is in the amount of money those same developers are raking in. It sure hasn't hurt those games in any manner.
Only certain individuals from the west seem to have this heightened moral standard decrying such actions as cheating. I've got news for you, everyone cheats. It's called human nature. Every mod created for a game is essentially a cheat. And let's not forget the most important issue, this is a game with no competitive aspect to it.
I personally won't be spending money in the AH, but I'm not adverse to it either. And I can't speak for the future. But if someone found an awesome item, puts it up on RMAH for sale vs the gold AH, I really don't see a difference. Either someone spending 80 hours in game farming gold buys it or someone working 80 hours IRL buys it. What's the difference?
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And since we don't know the formula being used for RNG, you're assuming every affix has an equally random chance to occur. The truth is that an aspect of the formula might differ based on the the first letter of the day, or the current server time. The science of RNG (especially in a game like diablo) is not as simple as rolling a dice.
As others have pointed out it is possible to roll the exact same number 20 times in a row.
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Don't freak out. This only affects level 60 characters. And more to the point once you reach Hell Act 1 & 2, 20k is literally 10-20mins of killing. 1/2 my drops in Act 1 inferno are 500+gold, I've seen up to 800+gold and my gold find % is in the single digits.
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The OP is not discussing the game. He's either very very inept at making a legible post or 14 years old. Sure you can post negative experiences, but a good post would give credit where credit is due.
The OP's post, essentially is a list of collected bullet points that he compiled from many other posts and made stuff up. There's no logic or structure in the entire post. Much like you would expect from a pre-teen.
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SFJake is either 14 years old or a moron with absolutely no gaming design experience.
Also, add 10 of the most wanted options in 30 mins? He has never ever been in a real programming project, let alone a multi-million dollar project.
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I don't need to check any threads. The original Diablo 2 never imagined it would result in hundreds of hours of gameplay. The leveling till 99 and etc to extend gameplay was all added after the first expansion.
Likewise, when you design a game like Diablo 3, it does make sense not to implement the lvl 99 limit. They know and we know there will be at least 1 expansion, hopefully 2-4. to that end, they made a really really hard mode, called it inferno and "normal" players will hit a brick wall and need to gear up for the game. That is the design for longivity for Diablo 3, it is not years and years, it is long enough till the expansion is ready.
Blizzard's policy and many retailers, put in refunds partly because it is expected, partly for good will, and partly because people do legitimatly not like their product. But humans being humans will always try to game the system, which is what the OP did. The refund is mainly intended for people who found out their PC could not run the game, or after a few hours truly did not like the gameplay.
I myself will watch a movie till the end no matter how bad because I paid for that ticket or rental. But that's 2 hours, 3 hours tops. What the OP did was spend 65 hours playing a game that he now says sucks. NO ONE spends 65 hours doing something they don't enjoy.
Hence, he is gaming the system, which calls his morals or lack of them into question. Not everyone does this but it is exactly because of these immoral people that health care costs are through the roof, fakeing accidents, making false claims etc. Dont get me wrong, I don't like the big insurance firms either (and I have no particular like/hate for Blizzard) but when people game the system, business are forced to put measures in place. End result, regular consumers suffer.
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No where is any advert does it say that Diablo 3 will give you hundreds of hours of play. Just like some people play Civilization for 1 campaign and some play it constantly for hundreds of hours. Just like Skyrim, some played 20-30 hours enjoyed it and moved on and I know many have sunk 500+ hours into it. Diablo 3 is just like any other game and the number of hours you play it is dependent on your enjoyment of the game.
You spent 65 hours playing a game, want a refund and you don't think it is a moral issue? Of course it is. All gamers are disappointed by a game some where along the way. You accept it and handle it in a responsible and mature method.
I stand by my opinion, (and it is an opinion not an attack). The OP is a douche with no morals.
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This guy played a game for 65 hours. And got a refund.
1) Props to Blizzard for doing this. It is a nice gesture from them.
2) This guy is a douche with no morals
It is one thing to buy a blender, find it doesn't perform as you expected to and return it. It is another to buy a blender, use the heck out of it and then return it because you don't need it anymore.
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The game is just as hard or harder than D2 even on nightmare if you only had to rely on just finding better drops yourself. They have given you an option, you don't have to use it, or you can choose to use it sparingly. It is your choice. If your D2 character was fulled decked out as well, the game would be just as easy.
They have chosen to allow more people access to higher levels of the game using the AH. Why is that bad? For the really hard core, you have a choice and can also choose to play hardcore mode. And Inferno is by no means a cakewalk even with great gear.
I simply don't understand people complaining about the game being too easy because of the AH. Not having the AH in D3 would have been a HUGE HUGE HUGE mistake. Say what you will, but there would be a huge outcry for Blizzard to implement an AH and it would be in the game several months later anyway. This is 2012, a game like diablo 3 not having an AH would be ridiculous. The RMAH is a still a bone of contention to many but the Gold AH to my mind a required feature. No one in 2012 wants to look up forum posts just to look for a trade, and if you do want that, then you're stuck in a time warp.
So the only other option is to tune the game for people using the AH? Meaning if you choose not to play the AH game you would literally be unable to progress. So please tell me the options you're thinking about.
Times change, Games evolve, gamers expectations change. If diablo 2 had been released with an AH, it would have faced the same growing pains that D3 is facing now.