ok ok ok
Its not that the game is slipping; we need to do this and that and add and remove stuff... they have project managers that will take all of this into account when scoping and sizing the project... they are simply stringing you and me out as this site and others provide a huge amount of free advertisement and promotion and awareness to the property they are creating and expect to generate a huge amount of revenue from.
That is the sad thing - they are liars! bold-faced liars! cheats and smug b@st@rds! Q2 may well turn into Q3, which in turn could quite easily turn into 2013 - i would not be surprised Of course they want to release the 'best game ever', 'its not ready until its ready', 'soon (TM)' blah blah blah - but that is the case for every studio, isn't it? I have been following the discussions on why it is late and a lot is about taking stuff away - they know what to take away as they get all beta and fan site feedback - we will find all the stuff they have taken away magically appear in the expansion - and we will know that when that is released we will have the game they had finished in 2011!
Also, Bliz, if you read this, don't laugh at me too hard!
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Might want to ask that at dual-boxing.com forums, but from my experience network is not a problem at all with these type of games - you do need the cpu power to run 4x instances though, either on one or multiple machines.
Also, you will need 4x accounts.
Thanks, I will check out the forum but think it will be far too complex for me... i was thinking just 4 PCS in one room, big table, dominos menu I need to know what bandwidth I would need, I only have 1MB, but can get 5, 10 or 20 - I am guessing that 1 is out, 5 probably not enough but is 20 overkill?
...Apologies if I sounded like I was trying to tell you what to do, just saw a lot of the same questions coming up through the thread
Ok, so heres a different question you maybe able to answer - what bandwidth do I need to run 4 instances of D3 at the same time? And what kind of network would I need - I assume wireless would be out?
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How will giving players the option to participate in something that could potentially provide some enjoyment (competitive PvP, alternate gameplay modes, PvE competition formats, etc.) disadvantage anyone? Does that make any sense to anyone?
Because I (and I am not alone) would like to participate and compete at an equal level in the pvp arena using the same character I use in the game, i.e. without spending a tonne of additional time (I will already be spending a tonne of time on my game character) developing a different character that is specifically used if I want to play pvp.
I don't know what is involved in developing a pvp game that you and other disappointed gamers want, but I assume it is quite a lot, otherwise we could ALL have best of both worlds. i.e. 1/ normal game, 2/ pvp arena (using same characters as in-game), and 3/ pro-gamer arena (I think this is what you want where you have specific character builds just for pvp?)
If it's too difficult for someone THEY DON'T HAVE TO PvP!
PROBLEM SOLVED!
and they won't, but Bliz will loose out in the long run...
U.S. has about 2 million hardcore gamers compared to 143 million casual (and presumably mid-core, gaymers, girl gamers can fall into this cateigry also) [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_110/1344-The-Future-of-PC-Gaming-Isnt-You]
Note 2: the American Medical Association findings, which described MMORPG players as "somewhat marginalised socially, perhaps experiencing high levels of emotional loneliness and/or difficulty with real-life social interactions." The AMA will reconsider whether it will classify video game addiction as a mental disorder in 2012. - so Bliz is actually doing you a favour [http://asia.gamespot.com/news/6234793/study-hardcore-gamers-not-social-outcasts]
games are getting easier nowadays anyways. looking forward to D3!!
your kidding - games are getting overly complicated... the basic mechanics are the same as they were 20 years ago, just hidden beneath 17 button mouses.
casuals doesn't mean stupid.. casuals are just people who don't play so often or don't take it so seriously ... But these people need things to be relatively simple.. Of course..would be possible to change every skill and suit it for PvP..but it would create a lot of confusion and many casuals just don't have time or will to learn zilions of different things.. so they just give up and quit the game..in addition..it would also take a lot of time to design and create this system for developers.. I think current system..that some runes will change skill into PvP skill is perfect..
here, here!
and not just casual gamers but mid-core gamers like me! i think i will try the pvp in d3...
P.S. If you're interested in buying or building a new computer, PM me and I'll do my best to help you make an informed purchase, even if you remain as uninformed about computers as before
Fortunately I have been waiting for D3 to buy a new machine so hopefully be able to afford a good one (actually need 4) - I may take you up on your offer when I have priced up something...
My main issue is my broadband, they state broadband, but what speed? There will be 4 of us playing together (me, my wife and my 2 children) on the same link so can you suggest/ recommend what I would need?
Because their not. On the other hand, committing 500 hours to a character, knowing that with even one mistake it will be gone forever is hardcore.
another reply - awesome! lol, okay, yes, i s'pose, putting it that way, their not. however, maybe there should be a 'madcore' category? i know i went mad playing evercrack - don't think i have fully recovered
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Its not that the game is slipping; we need to do this and that and add and remove stuff... they have project managers that will take all of this into account when scoping and sizing the project... they are simply stringing you and me out as this site and others provide a huge amount of free advertisement and promotion and awareness to the property they are creating and expect to generate a huge amount of revenue from.
That is the sad thing - they are liars! bold-faced liars! cheats and smug b@st@rds! Q2 may well turn into Q3, which in turn could quite easily turn into 2013 - i would not be surprised Of course they want to release the 'best game ever', 'its not ready until its ready', 'soon (TM)' blah blah blah - but that is the case for every studio, isn't it? I have been following the discussions on why it is late and a lot is about taking stuff away - they know what to take away as they get all beta and fan site feedback - we will find all the stuff they have taken away magically appear in the expansion - and we will know that when that is released we will have the game they had finished in 2011!
Also, Bliz, if you read this, don't laugh at me too hard!
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- what is the anything? I did'nt get any further than the first thing you mentioned
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Cool, thank you - I will go for 5. Incidentally, LoL looks good I might give it go
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Thanks, I will check out the forum but think it will be far too complex for me... i was thinking just 4 PCS in one room, big table, dominos menu I need to know what bandwidth I would need, I only have 1MB, but can get 5, 10 or 20 - I am guessing that 1 is out, 5 probably not enough but is 20 overkill?
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Ok, so heres a different question you maybe able to answer - what bandwidth do I need to run 4 instances of D3 at the same time? And what kind of network would I need - I assume wireless would be out?
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Because I (and I am not alone) would like to participate and compete at an equal level in the pvp arena using the same character I use in the game, i.e. without spending a tonne of additional time (I will already be spending a tonne of time on my game character) developing a different character that is specifically used if I want to play pvp.
I don't know what is involved in developing a pvp game that you and other disappointed gamers want, but I assume it is quite a lot, otherwise we could ALL have best of both worlds. i.e. 1/ normal game, 2/ pvp arena (using same characters as in-game), and 3/ pro-gamer arena (I think this is what you want where you have specific character builds just for pvp?)
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and they won't, but Bliz will loose out in the long run...
U.S. has about 2 million hardcore gamers compared to 143 million casual (and presumably mid-core, gaymers, girl gamers can fall into this cateigry also) [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/articles/view/issues/issue_110/1344-The-Future-of-PC-Gaming-Isnt-You]
Note 2: the American Medical Association findings, which described MMORPG players as "somewhat marginalised socially, perhaps experiencing high levels of emotional loneliness and/or difficulty with real-life social interactions." The AMA will reconsider whether it will classify video game addiction as a mental disorder in 2012. - so Bliz is actually doing you a favour [http://asia.gamespot.com/news/6234793/study-hardcore-gamers-not-social-outcasts]
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your kidding - games are getting overly complicated... the basic mechanics are the same as they were 20 years ago, just hidden beneath 17 button mouses.
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here, here!
and not just casual gamers but mid-core gamers like me! i think i will try the pvp in d3...
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forget head exploding, huge medical bills to add a couple more fingers to your mouse-hand
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Fortunately I have been waiting for D3 to buy a new machine so hopefully be able to afford a good one (actually need 4) - I may take you up on your offer when I have priced up something...
My main issue is my broadband, they state broadband, but what speed? There will be 4 of us playing together (me, my wife and my 2 children) on the same link so can you suggest/ recommend what I would need?
Thanks in advance.
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another reply - awesome! lol, okay, yes, i s'pose, putting it that way, their not. however, maybe there should be a 'madcore' category? i know i went mad playing evercrack - don't think i have fully recovered