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Quote from tanis0

I have to say, all of these ideas focus on making trading (imho) annoying, complex and advantageous for people who study the economy and spend a lot of time working the system. The first two are a bad idea for obvious (I hope) reasons and the last is pretty much the same problem as now.

I think it'd be far better if they just eliminated trading entirely than doing anything like the ideas in this thread. That way, they can balance the game around everything being self-found. If I still have to spend 10 hours trying to trade for an item I want at a decent price, then what's the point of ditching the AH again? I'd rather be killing and finding my own awesome loot.

The problem with this is that it will result in people still gearing up faster. I'm already skeptical about smart loot because it hastens the gearing process. The problem with the AH is that people gear up faster, clear content faster, and are bored. The Diablo experience is about continuing to farm and hunt for upgrades. While the loot 2.0 proposed changes will enhance the self found experience trading should not be removed from the game. May as well remove gold also.

Yes, the gear we find MUST be better. However I don't want to be able to do MP10 after 3 nights of farming Act V inferno.

I'm not quite sure how a trading post differs from an auction house honestly. I've thought about it really just concluded that Blizzard may as well keep the AH if a trading post is the alternative. I guess it depends on how one would define a trading post however most of the idea's I've seen about a trading post simply mimic the functionality of the Auction House without instant transaction. Same with other suggestions such as battle.net functionality. I think what is needed is either nothing at all or trading games. Trading games could be a big pain in the ass though because of 4 player party limits.

I think the objective of Loot 2.0 in combination of removing the AH is the end goal of having less items floating around. First off loot 2.0 will decrease the drop rate of legendary items and increase the quality. I think this will result in more gear staying on accounts. Then removing the AH limits the ability for a player to just go "shopping" I guess I will call it.

I think if Legendary items are more desirable forum trading/chat trading while may increase in volume will increase in variety and quality. Right now you see plenty of threads/posts in chat however most of time the item is considered average. This is an effect the AH has. Without the ability to filter gear to your liking that average piece may become the best item your character ever equips. So while volume increases it won't exactly be "spam" because players will be linking quality items that will intrigue people.

Also now you see players gather 5-10 items then try to sell them in bulk in chat which takes up a lot of space in chat. I think players will be trading items quickly and alone. This is because drops won't be as common and all will be valuable. So if I get a Wizard Chest I know I can trade it quickly for a Barb item (or whatever scenario you want to think of). Also to reduce volume they could break up the trade channels into even smaller regions.

Blizzard has said they have improved chat features coming so I think this will play a big part in the future of trading in Diablo III.

I'm willing to bet legendary Health Potion is just an unlimited potion.

Ladder features have been datamined. While nothing has been 100% confirmed/announced, it's very very safe to assume a ladder system will be implemented.

Yes go ahead people, quote me on how there is absolutely no evidence at all.

...going to have a tolerable community, maybe ;P (D3fans is good, but everywhere else is LOL).

As strongly desired as this changed was I'm actually really surprised with the amount of positive feedback. I was expecting it to be split down the middle, maybe even lean more toward the AH crowd. I've always supported the AH however never depended on it. The game isn't supposed to have one and it's finally going to be right.

Honestly, I'm more excited to see how much balls Blizzard has than the actual removal. I feel as if this past year this has been the discussion of some critical design meetings and the ultimately decided "We'll just try everything to discourage use".

Then with everyone saying "The console version is great cause it has no AH!!" made them cave in. I don't really think the console version is too relevant but the loot system seems to work.

I am super excited now!! I just wish something was in the current game for me to do lol. Tho I suppose grinding more characters to 100 won't be a terrible idea...will just have to keep looking at this page for motivation.

Is that a new gem color I see? O;

Quote from shaggy

We don't even know if the 1-100 paragon levels will remain the same, honestly.

Given how many rewards can be purchased I sincerely doubt that they're going to use the same curve. Hell they may even go a flat XP value per point. But I really doubt that paragon level 500 is going to be like 4 billion XP or something like that. That almost makes next to no sense at all.

Excellent point here. I'm expecting a change in the curve myself. I think there is two possibilities. One being that they keep the current level experience and have every level after 100 being equal the amount of experience required to go from 99 to 100. Second option is that they change the curve by adding some type of multiplier. I'm not good at math so I'll give a poor example but everyone should understand. Let's say paragon zero to one is 7million experience. The next level will be multiplied by like 1.25. So each level is multiplied. Since the amount is infinite I don't think they will program each experience level required into the game because will hypothetically you could reach level 100,000,000,000,000,000. They will likely program it to multiply each level by x amount of the previous. Or as I suggested first make all levels > 100 equal.

Lol I don't think they will wait four years again. I think they want to push this stuff out as soon as possible to get past these tough times. I'm expecting May/June release with beta beginning after Blizzcon presentation. Which will probably include the final loot 2.0 preview among everything else.

Not sure if this has been mentioned but I'm very concerned about all the legendary items being account bound. I'm hoping this is due to Mystic alterations (which I'm fine with) or if this is their plan to control AH use.

Edit: Well it appears that the legendary flail the Crusader looted is not account bound. However it is level 31. So I would still like to see some clarification on this, I'm fairly confident that it's just due to the Mystic however I want to be 100%, so if anyone catches anything, which I'm sure will happen, be sure to update!

Quote from Ader

Correct me if Im wrong,but the loot 2.0 will come with the expansion,and not in any patch?
If thats the case,than fuck you blizzard.

There was a lot of text, but I believe I read loot 2.0 will be a patch. (Today, not from past posts). However I also could be wrong.

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Are you sure about 70 cap? No one say about it as far i know.

This is what they are saying however I'm a little skeptical on this as well, I'm sure we will know for sure shortly. However I still stand with my argument as to people shouldn't complain about their gear becoming brimstones. It was inevitable.

Don't know why people are going to complain about gear becoming obsolete.

1.) Current gear is shit isn't that what we've been complaining about?
2.) Lol if you thought any itemization changes would be retroactive. You'd be salvaging that bullshit anyways.
3.) Level cap increase - perfect way to put the shitty itemization behind us - your gear will just suck until 60.

Where can I pre order the collector's edition?

Yeah thats what Im wondering also, I think I might just put in a movie and wait another hour and if nothing pops then Il just go to bed. I'm sure D3 with still be there in the morning..

Yeah I would like to go to bed as well, however I wanna see the stuff before it's flooded with "LOL PURE SHIT F U BLIZZARD" comments spammed.