Quote from Kiwimustang67
I really want to play the Barb on launch so therefore I have been following closely any changes or improvements to his skills. But I have noticed a constant pattern with every patch since at least 13 that he has been nerfed in way or another every time. In this latest patch weapon throw nerfed 20 %, what are they afraid of? that he mite survive Inferno.....oh no! can't have that lets weaken him some more. Demon Hunter in patch 16 got a good buff in a lot of ways which is fine even tho I thought she was starting to hold her own any way. All I am saying is give the Barb a break, soon there will not be any decent skill to go with because he will be too balanced and no skill will be efficient enough in tougher area's......your views?
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To be fair, more keys were given out for D3 beta as contest rewards than tickets sold for any given Blizzcon- and you certainly had a level of control when it came to the contests (how many you enter, how vigilant you are to be first poster, etc.). Personally, I got my key from the Gamefront tiwtter giveaway. A lot of people entered, knowing it was going to the first 500 people who retweeted their tweet, and they never followed up on it until all the keys had been given out. If you dont alreayd know, there was a huge snafu with this contest, as Gamefront thought twitter kept a sorted chronological list of the retweets (they dont). They only show a sampling of 50 retweets from the first to the most recent. Thus, the guy could only give them outto people on those list. There was a topic here on D3 that was talking about it (later in the very same topic that advertised the giveaway before it started) where people who had retweeted after some people were getting keys. It was then found out if you tweeted at the guy giving them out asking why you hadnt recieved your key, and he could see you had posted before other people he had given a key too, you were instantly sent one. Thats how I recieved my key: my vigilence in entering contests and following up on them.
At the end of the day you can view it two ways:
1) It was totally random and out of your control. Cool, then that means everyone had the same equal chance of getting the FoS and it's not fair to say "we had no opportunity to get it" when you had just as much of an opportunity as the next guy. You just happened not to get picked, and I'm sorry but thats the nature of random chance. Not worth being angry at those who were lucky, or feel like you were personally cheated by blizzard.
2) The contests were not random and people could increase there chances of getting keys (by using scprits, or creating builds that won contests, entering every single contest, etc.). You could say they had "unfair" advantages, but strictly speaking you had access to all the same resources as they did and could have done what they did. There was nothing preventing you from getting a key this way. Hell, you could have even found and bought one from someone personally. You may disagree with that, but its ludicrious to suggest there is absolutely nothing you could do to get a key- there were simply no things you were willing to do (buy a key, write a script, watch the internet like a hawk for months, etc.). And ultimately more people got the FoS this way then people who have any given blizzcon FoS, so you can't say the contest group alone isn't enough people to warrant a FoS.
In either case, there is no issue of fairness here. There is no reason to feel slighted or cheated out of anything because you weren't owed anything in the first place. You can't say you had no chance because you had the same exact chance as everyone else for the opt-in invites. You also can't say there is nothing you could do to get a key as that is also clearly false as many people did get a key without being randomly selected.
There's just no reason to habor any resentment towards anyone that isn't jealousy at it's core. You wanted to get into beta but didnt get selected. Now that those people are getting something to prove they were in the beta (and thats really all this FoS is- almost every other developer does this) you are angry because you feel like they already got enough. You are mad someone else got something you didnt. That's just all there is to it. And if all else fails and no amount of reason or logic can prevent you from being angry at the 'chosen' or at blizzard- then let them know with your wallet, don't buy diablo 3.
EDIT: This will also be my last post on this subject. The fact this has been an issue at all I find incredibly indicitive of how childish and petty grown ass adults can be with anonimity and the internet.
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Let me articulate why you don't think this fair is completely unjustified:
Blizzard has stated in the past feats of strength were something very difficult or something that is impossible to obtain anymore.
Yup. This is how FoS work. This is also why they don't give achievement points, but are simply badges of proof for being in a limited number of people for a certain event.
They have maintained however through actions and wording that everyone has a chance at the feats.
"Equal chance" in this regard can be interpreted somewhat subjectively. For example, opening the gates of AQ40 could have technically been done by anyone, but certainly we can't say everyone had an EQUAL chance at it. Only one person on the server could do it, and the quests that were required to get the hammer to ring the gong were only completable by a servers top guild(s). An entire guild that is the best on a given server all working so a single individual could ring the gong- hardly something everyone had equal access to. Another example is Blizzcon- whose tickets sell out within hours of going on sale. Clearly there are more people trying to get tickets than there are tickets, even at the moment of becoming available. Not everyone of them is going to be lucky enough to get a ticket.
But with this beta that has been flipped, not everyone could have a chance for this feat, infact short of black martket buying a CD Key from a fansite there was no way to be guaranteed to get it.
Here is where you logic train jumps the tracks into a chasm. How is being lucky enough to get into beta any different than getting lucky enough to get one of a few thousand blizzcon tickets when tens of thousands compete to get them? For the ten thousand people all clicking "Buy Tickets Now!" the second they go one sale, and all the people opted into the beta, they both have an equal chance of getting the tickets or invite, and certainly not all of them are going to get what they wanted.
I also want to ask, how in the hell could you possibly say "not everyone could have a chance for this feat" when everyone had a chance? An equal chance to be precise when it comes to opt in invites. And for contests, well clearly everyone had an equal chance at those as well. I guess you could say "the contests weren't equal- some people used bots and scripts to get the twitter keys!" Well yeah, and you could have used those scripts too. It's no different than someone needing an entire server top guild to get the AQ40 feat. while some people have greater access to tools, everyone still ad an equal chance of using those tools.
And yes, you could also just buy a key from someone. you can also buy CEs on ebay for extra mark-up, you can buy blizzcon tickets from a scalper for mark up. Everything you can get a feat for can be bought. In fact, since you can buy accounts on 3rd party sites or on ebay, you can buy any item in any game ever! The fact someone can buy a beta key means absolutely nothing to this issue- you can buy anything with money because it's a fucking form of currency. If you have issues with that then god help your soul.
Now before you say things like "well I never had a chance to get a gladiator FoS.". This is false you had every chance to get it, you just didn't that is why them giving a FoS away for beta after maintaining for years they would never do it alienates their userbase.
By this point it's clear you simply have no idea what the word 'chance' means. You had a chance to get into beta (assuming you were opted in or competed in contests). The same chance as all the other people who were opted in, or entered said contests. Unfortunately you didn't get chosen. But thats what chance is. It sounds like what you want is for a series of actions someone can do, and if they do them they get a feat. That's not chance. Thats a Gurantee. Thats not what feats exist for.
that's my 2 cents
Thanks for letting us know you are a jealous bitter human being.
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Different people value different things when it comes to games. Some people prefer PvE, some PvP. Blizzard has stated they are focusing on making diablo 3 a co-op PvE game on a fundamental level and have made design decesions based on that direction. If you don't like that, then I'm sorry. If you do like that, then awesome.
End of discussion.
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I would prefer a version of diablo 3 where I can customize the skin color, hair color & length, body type, and gender to that of my personal preference, rather than having race/gender locked to a specific class (thankfully we at least have gotten a choice of gender).
I belive all people should be able to make their hero look as similar (or different) to themselves as they would like. It is, after all, an action ROLE playing game.
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I would definitely avoid having them play demon hunter, witch doctor, or Monk
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These posts are incredibly asinine.
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Hey look at you posting a link you were explicitly told multiple times to stop posting because it's a link to a scam site to sell worthless gold maing guides to people for money that have no actual content
post reported.
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That grace period isn't right now....
look, like a week or so before release, when they've done this for all 5 classes, there will be like a week where you can do this for any of the 5 classes and still get the sigil. that week will be for anyone who missed any Sigils in their own week.
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I think one of the WD issues though is that the whole old naked african tribesman with parkinsons who shouts in gibberish when you use skills is one of the big turn offs of the class. Much harder to relate too. I think the female WD is much nicer to play as because of this. Since there is no way to fulfill the male power fantasy by playing as the WD, I think many players will avoid him out of aesthetics.
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you people are so blinded by your fanboyism it's surreal - and this is coming from someone whose favorite hero is the DH