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Feb 26, 2020Jetrall posted a message on Activision Blizzard has several more remakes and remasters planned for 2020Posted in: General Discussion (non-Diablo)
Rebjorn - I think that's a fantastic idea and one that would truly benefit the community and the players. Thinking about this makes me wonder why Blizzard hasn't done something along these lines (though, I suppose I wouldn't consider them particularly supportive to mods, unlike other developers like Bethesda). If Blizzard is truly as profit-driven as it seems to us, that leads to the question: if there were a profitable way to do this, why haven't they done it?
Certainly, there is a degree of risk involved in greater support for modding / releasing source code, but I imagine the potential for profit could easily outweigh these risks, especially considering D2 is an older property. Perhaps, then, the potential for profit isn't as significant as we believe. I find it doubtful they haven't at least considered possibilities like this - so perhaps they have done analysis and found that the profits just aren't there for some reason (or the risks are larger than we have considered).
Maybe, for example, they are concerned about drawing attention away from their newer properties (i.e. D3, D4, Diablo Immortal, etc) by shifting player focus back onto D2 - cannibalizing some of their own audience. This could make sense, considering they are surely aware of the legacy of D2 compared to the somewhat lukewarm perception of D3, D4, and Immortal.
They also may simply prefer to maintain greater control over their properties - something which supporting modding on an older title might undermine. It's harder to justify DRM, paid DLC's, and micro transactions on a new title if you're actively supporting modding on an older (arguably, more popular) title. This higher level of control and propriety over games is, unfortunately, gaining in popularity. It may be less beneficial for players, but it is a safer bet for the developer and shareholders.
Ultimately, I think that your idea is great - arguably, better than Blizzard attempting a remaster / remake (as I agree that the fanbase and modders are more likely to put in the effort to crafting a more soulful and honest experience) - but it would likely require a major shift in Blizzard's direction... something which isn't likely to happen if they're content and profiting off of their current model.
In short, this is a great idea but, if Blizzard is as greedy as it seems, I doubt it will happen (sadly). Not enough control over the product, maybe too much doubt about losing audience from their newer games.
Feb 21, 2020Posted in: Diablo IV: Return to Darkness
Your English is excellent - no need to apologise.
I think this is an interesting idea for a game mechanic. I'm curious how it would integrate with the rest of the game (i.e. could you just always try and set up a courier quest when travelling to gain extra XP or rewards from it, or would they pop up randomly and you would have to choose whether to accept or not?)
It seems like you've thought the idea through a fair bit. If I come up with any other ideas re: mechanics I'll add them here!
Feb 21, 2020Posted in: Introduction
Hi Bagstone - thank you very much for that informative post!
By the time of RoS, I was long gone, so I had no idea of the effect it had on the D3 experience or DFans userbase! That's very interesting.
It's sad to hear that Blizzard has changed so much - I wonder if this is, in large part, due to the merger/acquisiton with Activision? (I haven't been paying close attention for years, so I'm not all caught up).
Perhaps Diablo 4, if it's able to deliver on what it seems to be promising, will lead to a resurgence. Perhaps if the upcoming Netflix series is revealed, that could lead to some additional activity as well.
Ultimately, Reddit is such a powerhouse, I'm not surprised a lot of the fanbase has moved there. In my experience, Reddit has largely replaced the forum-based communities that once made up such a large part of the internet (from early 2000's through ~ 2010ish, at least for me).
This is too bad, though, because I think Reddit simply doesn't have the same intimate community feel that a more specific website/forum (such as DFans) can provide. This is something I find lacking in the Reddit experience for me - though I know some do get more connected. I think this is largely due to the site being so "like" driven (so only top content really gets viewed by the majority of users, who don't sort by "new").
I'd love to see some more discussion and community posts here, as it does seem that most of the remaining activity is very build-oriented (which is great, but only one piece of the greater picture).
Thanks again for all the information and opinion - and for the welcome!
EDIT: For what it's worth - I was able to 'resurrect' my account by sending a message to the forum's support email (email@example.com) and asking for it to be connected to my Twitch account. It took a few weeks, but it allowed me to re-accedd my old account, even though I had never 'consented' to the account being carried over... I wonder if this is true for other old members as well?
Feb 19, 2020Posted in: Introduction
Very interesting. This site has a fascinating 'behind the scenes' history.
Originally Diablo3.com was owned and managed by Mockery who, if I recall correctly, was based out of Quebec (maybe Ontario?). Umaro was aother primary admin for the site with him at the time (who was a bit more 'active' in the day-to-day running of the site).
Blizzard contacted Mockery about purchasing the Diablo3.com domain name in anticipation of the game announcement, but Mockery (I think, quite cleverly) opted instead to 'donate' the domain name to them in exchange for promotion - specifically, listing the new site (DiabloFans.com) on the official Diablo III website. When the game was announced, this led to a huge surge in users (IIRC from about 10,000 to 30,000 - practically over night). It was just before this 're-brand' that Umaro asked me onto the team to help with the graphical elements (e.g. new logo & banner, forum re-skin, etc).
Not long after, it was announced that Mockery was moving on from the site and selling to the Curse gaming network (I believe around 2010-2012). At first, the site experienced a lot of growth during this period as anticipation for Diablo III grew - however, I believe shortly after the game was released, the site's activity experienced a decline. My guess would be this was for a few reasons. I think the mutual anticipation of the game had held more energy than the actual game itself and, when it was released, I think a lot of the spirit subsided. Many of us were tired of the wait by this point. Additionally, some, like me, were probably disappointed in Diablo III and weren't as motivated to remain active in the community. These factors probably combined to produce a decline in activity.
Curse operated the site as part of its network for some time - before being acquired by Amazon / Twitch in 2016. Then, in 2018 the site (and many of Curse's assets, including DiabloFans.com and other similar sites) were bought by Wikia (aka Fandom). The current owner/operator of DFans is MagicFind - which appears to be a subsidiary of Fandom/Wikia - as their advertising is generated by Fandom (though I haven't actually confirmed that this is the relationship).
I'm guessing that the 'blackout' you've been referring to happened sometime in that 2018-2020 range (does that seem correct?)
ANYWAYS! All this has been very interesting to reflect on and research. I had to dig through some old emails from pre-2010 and do some Googling - which has all been surprisingly enjoyable. Thanks everyone for the nostalgia trip!
Feb 18, 2020Jetrall posted a message on Activision Blizzard has several more remakes and remasters planned for 2020Posted in: General Discussion (non-Diablo)
What would be better - a straight remaster of the original game (gameplay and mechanics unchanged) or a remake (with actual gameplay and mechanics updates as well as enhanced graphical elelements)?
As much as I love the original D2, I could see room for improvement - though I'd be concerned that too much unnecessary tweaking could be problematic.
Perhaps if they released a 'remake' with a 'classic' / 'vanilla' option that could be a good compromise (though that seems like much more work).
This said - I'm skeptical they would remaster or remake D2, as they are still actively making so many new entries into the Diablo franchise. Re-releasing the most beloved entry in the series might cannibalize a good portion of their audience for the newer titles.
What do the rest of you think?
Feb 18, 2020Posted in: Introduction
Very nice to see you here! I wasn't aware of all the 'troubles' DFans has gone through - was it a planned shutdown? How long ago did this happen?
I do think the site activity was at an all-time high around the release of D3, and when I 'took off' the forums were booming!
As much as I would love a D2 remake, I am quite certain it will never happen (unless fans take on the project themselves - a risky proposition).
I've seen a bit about PoD, but haven't looked into it very far. Is it strictly for D2? Is it still pretty active? Could be interesting to check out.
Thanks for your message!
Feb 4, 2020Posted in: Diablo II
That's interesting. What are the limitations on the randomisation (how crazy does it get)?
I'm wondering if this mod is intended to create a chaotic ridiculous experience or simply to enhance replay value by allowing more variation.
Feb 4, 2020Posted in: Introduction
Jetrall here - I'm an old timer, but I've been away for some time now and figured I may warrant a re-introduction.
Many years ago, when this site was still Diablo3.com, before the game was announced and Blizzard bought out the domain, I was a Mod here - and, later, an Admin. I was tasked with re-designing the site prior to the Blizzard buyout and the logo I made still sits atop the site today.
I experienced some disappointment with the initial release of Diablo III and that, combined with a general burnout with online gaming and seeking a degree, led me away for a long while.
I was, however, intrigued by the Diablo IV trailer and it got me reminiscing. I figured, if I wanted to stay up to date on the series and see where D4 is heading, it would make sense to come back and keep an eye on the forums & news.
I'm especially interested to know if there are any others, like me, still around from the 'old days' and I'd also love to see how the site and its users have grown and changed over the years. What are the best new things on DiabloFans.com? Who are the users to know?
Also - thanks to Chaud for resurrecting this account for me!
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Aug 25, 2010My votes:Posted in: News
Let's face it. Iris wins. Hands down. That image is fucking breath-taking. I nearly-- okay, I came.
Second vote goes to the Xiansi Wraith in my book. Holy crap, though, there's some awesome art. I think that the Kis'Va entry is stunning as well, but Xiansi has that little kick of extra effort in it to give it second place.
Love the lore for Kish'Va. Very interesting, totally works with the story of Diablo I and II and reads very realistically and eerily.
Second vote goes to Hatred's Left Hand. Love the lore on this one too. Totally interesting.
First vote is for the Ogre Jailer. It's just so different from all the other submissions!
Second goes to Xiansi Wraith. Loved the pictures to go along with it and the puppeteer move is really neat.
Third place (not counted) goes to Wheel of Pain. Hahahahahahaha. I love how simple it is.
Apr 1, 2010Haha. Sugarglider.Posted in: News
Quote from "emilemil1" »Then why do I have a harder time reading? Not only because the text doesn't stand enough from the background, but I have to look away from the burning Pink or I will end up with empty eye sockets.
Your eyes will adapt or be destroyed. So goes the circle of life.
Apr 1, 2010Posted in: NewsQuote from "naj" »This pisses me off so bad as a hardcore diablofan, how dare they do this to the diablo franchise, they are making it a joke now...yeah yeah april fools n all, but still this is too OTT, man blizzard what were they thinking, OMFG WTF is going on!!!.....
...ahh hell gimme the pony oow do they have a female one with pwetty pink curlie wurlie hairs? x3 <3 <3
looool this thread has its own layout too! nice one.
Lol. Silly naj, thinks this is a joke (just cause it's on Apr. 1)! Also thinks this layout is 1) temporary, 2) only for this thread. :rolleyes:
Mar 20, 2010Thanks so much, Seth. You wrote a dynamo article and I'm so happy to be back here and be a part of this community again. This really helps make me feel welcome.Posted in: News
I'll try to address questions / comments as they come up here, too.
Quote from "Jarhead89" »As one of the original members of this site, I was there alongside jetrall to witness the rise, and fall, of SICK.
Good times, them olden days, huh?
Quote from "Jarhead89" »The core members of SICK are long gone, and only a select few of you, including jetrall, know who i am speaking of. I wish Jetrall the best of luck and hope to join his venture sometime soon.
That'd be wicked. I'd love to have you aboard, bro. It's been forever since I've talked to you. We ought to catch up.
Quote from "maximusje" »It's great to see Jetrall return to this boards. Long time no see!
I was wondering if this clan requires the player to have a clan tag in front of his name? I hope not, because I always disliked a clan tag.
Good to be back! And no, we require no naming conventions. (You can even be a member of other guilds/clans if you like). The point of the group is to be welcoming for all. As long as you have something to contribute, you're welcome (even if you don't even play the game anymore).
Quote from "maximusje" »Now, I very much like the idea of a guild that strives to be a community of gamers that do not strive to be the best guild out there, the guild highest ranked on the ladder, but to be the friendliest, the most cordial guild.
Since I am eager to start playing Diablo II again after the ladder and after my school doesn't consume all my time, I'd love to join this type of guild.
Sons of Ohr, Jetrall, I wish you the best luck and maybe you'll see me joining soon!
I'd love that! Thank you!
Aug 20, 2009Jetrall posted a message on Diablofans Redesign Launching Tomorrow! Plus, Live Chats During BlizzCon!The new design will not be mandatory on the forums. You will still be able to choose the current design (and the old Speedvision design).Posted in: News
Quote from "Dill" »Looks alright. Definitely looks nicer than it does now!
>__> Gee, thanks.
Quote from "Psyxix" »Lol ! I was about to propose my help for a future redesign! Looks like I'm too late Am I?
Yes, pretty much.
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