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I personally think the only reason that no one with an authenticator have had their accounts compromised is solely related to the method used by the hackers. The authenticator simply stops them at the finish line, so to speak.

That still does not make the authenticator a god-given tool. It's great, I must admit and I use it myself. I just want to get rid of the statement that "if you have an authenticator you're safe". The correct statement is that you are more safe.

Also, going around the authenticator requires a completely compromised client, compromised so badly that Blizzard login traffic is sent to the hackers instead. They grab your info, including the authenticator code, and give you an error. Even then, it requires someone to be there and use the authenticator code before it expires in its 30 second window. So, they have to actually compromise the machine's IP stack, and use the information in realtime.

With the above in mind, adding an authenticator to your account changes you from an account where any lapse on your part or on say, Adobe Flash's part can lose you your account whenever the hackers get around to reading the info, to an account where they have to actually be waiting for you to login in real time, and once they do log in, they don't get to 'keep' the account. They just get one session to strip stuff, and that's it.

So, no, it's not foolproof, but, it's a line the hackers usually don't bother to cross. Also, I think since the (very few) compromises involving authenticators (in WoW a few years ago, not in D3) using the man-in-the-middle attack, I think Blizzard has put in some kind of countermeasures to it. Not sure what, exactly, and of course they're not telling. I wouldn't tell, either.

You know, if D3 players ever actually *play the game* rather than look for every exploit way to 60, the world will end, I think.

Half those people get to 60, hit Inferno, get one-shot with 10K life, and ragequit/puke all over the forums anyway...

What a waste.

Please don't take offense, InfidelMan, but I hope this means you'll stop posting telling us how bad the game is?

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It's just silly to accuse Blizzard of being 'greedy' because they take a cut of gold. Greedy would have been running the RMAH where they take actual cash.

However, getting a cut of the action on the RMAH makes sense, though. The entire intellectual property that created the items being sold for the RL cash is theirs after all, so anyone getting cash is making money from Blizzard's intellectual property. I'd want a cut, too, if I owned the means of making said cash in the first place.

Quote from Dilbert

Granted I've never been put in a position where I had to choose between a woman and gaming but...

I view women that have a problem with guys gaming as a control issue. All the healthy marriages I've ever seen (as in ones that actually last) each person has "their" time. For some women, it's mani/pedi time, or lunch with the girls or what have you. For guys, at least the guys I'm friends with, it's gaming.

Sure if you've got some important meeting you need to do as a family (eg. getting a new house, family member sick) then sure you need to go take care of it. If the woman just wants attention and gaming has attention for a while, and she throws a fit, well she's too much of a control freak. But then again, I'm single so take my opinion for what it's worth.

That's mostly right, and usually it's not just gaming. It's usually pointed toward one of two things:

1) high-maintenance woman who needs attention all the time to keep her insecurities under control
2) guy who doesn't give her enough attention, even when he's not gaming

Those are the two extremes, but there's a lot of room in the middle there. My wife listened to the other wives talking about how their husbands were always in the bar or out playing golf, and decided that having me right there in the house was pretty handy.

I don't even play public games. I have all my old D2 friends, two WoW guilds, a lot of them bought D3, and a meta-guild (multiple games, met them in Rift) to coop with, on my Btag friend list. I BS with them while playing, whether I'm coop with them at the time or not. Game's plenty social for me.

I love how the pubbie game's lack of socialization is supposedly Blizzard's fault, not the fault of the people who treat the others in pubbie games as robots put there for their playing pleasure, rather than as other people. That's the real issue.

Make some friends and play with them...or are you all a bunch of nerds w/o any? I'm definitely an IT geek, but I have tons of friends to play with.

Edit: I really hate the victim mentality, where it's always someone else's fault.

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Quote from Ragator

I just finished Act 1 of Inferno with 60K HP, 10K armor and 15K DPS and I'm doing fine.

Many people are just bad.

Come back and say that once you've given act 3 a try, people who aren't in act 3 or 4 yet can't even fathom the difference in difficulty between the Acts of Inferno.

Actually, it's not hard to fathom. Each Act of Inferno is a new difficulty.

Quote from FoxBatD2

This is Diablo. No you're not going to have reams of endgame content like an MMO or something.

Would it be too much to ask for a little something besides bigger numbers? Maybe not. But exclusive content? Yeah, that is a bit much.

Exactly. Anyone expecting them to add 'more content' before an expansion, didn't do their research very well. This is Diablo 3, not an MMO. It's a B2P title, that plays online, and offers small group co-op if you want it, but it's not required.

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Thats still a far way until you reach contempt for solo players and pvpers.

Uh, no. Part of solo play in a computer game is being able to sit on a plane, bus, a cafe somewhere, and just play your damn game. And PVP doesn't exist, and when it does, it will probably be walled off from regular game assets.

D3 has some amazing production values and truly innovative elements, but that doesn't mean you need to distort the most basic facts to defend their decisions, decisions which do have legitimate business motivations.

Oh, so you hide your always-online hate behind something else. Got it. They had other business considerations like security, too, but, you must keep the Blizzard hate machine running, and of course, to people like you, making money is criminal. They should give you your games for free, and always written just for you. Get over it. Life doesn't work that way.

You knew it was always online months before release, so why are you whining about it AFTER you bought the game? If you felt that strongly about it, why buy it at all? No sympathy here, sorry. No one hid that single-player was still online.

But, if you don't like it, Torchlight II is around the corner, and while it'll be good, imo, it'll have the stuff you really wanted -- a D2 updated with a lot less changes. Have fun.

There's really only a few rules for the AH on pricing:

1) If it's priced too high, it won't sell. They'll get it back in 48 hours. If it sells, it's not overpriced
2) If you don't like the lowest price, farm it up yourself. Don't bitch how someone else prices it. See rule 1.
3) No one has a divine right to not be undercut, and/or make X amount of profit. If you don't like someone who prices stuff lower than you, you are always free to buy up their stock, and raise the price on it, assuming the risk yourself. If you don't want to do that, don't whine.

Quote from Twoflower » IMO the main problem in the diablo series ( and most other arpg ) is that you have no real endgame.

This argument has always made me want to get violent.

If you want raiding, or super-competitive high-end PvP then you're in the WRONG FUCKING GENRE and that's not a flaw of the genre. ARPGs are supposed to be simple games where you gain pleasure from smashing a skeleton with a huge mace and seeing loot pop out. It's, literally, supposed to be a simplified RPG with a focus on combat (the ACTION in Action RPG) and less focus on stats and pre-fight preparations.

Diablo doesn't need "endgame." It needs a good, fun, item hunt. And while I still loathe BoA and I think Smart Drops are too often, there's absolutely no denying that Loot 2.x is far better than Loot 1.x for the following reasons:

1) No more items with multiple primary stats. Remember that Skorn you got that had str, dex, and int on it and, which was basically ruined as a result? That doesn't happen anymore, and that alone has *severely* reduced the chance you're getting something that is pointless/useless.

2) No more class-specific items with the wrong primary stat. Again, this goes a long way to eliminating items that were just outright bad. No one really wanted a Dead Man's Legacy with strength on it. Now that's an impossibility and helps you know that any item has a worthwhile chance of being useful by reducing the chance that it will be decidedly *not* useful.

3) No pointless stat combinations (int plus Bash damage, etc.). Again, they're reducing the volume of outright terrible items that drop. No more WD skills paired with strength or dex. 1, 2, and 3 combined have a SIGNIFICANT impact on what is dropping. You rarely find something and think "this is total garbage" - although that does still happen with weapons, gloves, and jewelry because of the 1.x rolling rules making most of them superior to their level 60 2.x counterparts. This won't remain true at 70, though, so it's just a temporary issue.

4) Split stats are completely gone which drastically reduces the number of shitty properties that can appear on an item. There were six split stats (int-str, int-dex, int-vit, str-dex, str-vit, dex-vit) of which only ONE was actually useful for your character (proper primary + vit). That means every character now has five less bad potential properties to appear on an item. Massive change.

4) Tightened up stat ranges. When you ctrl-click a link, or ctrl-mouseover an item and you see the ranges you realize that most of them are roughly 50% smaller than they were in 1.x. This makes it such that you're not finding level 60 items with 25 resist all on them. It helps keep all the drops at least semi-relevant to the level on which they're being found.

5) Primary/Secondary split. This is more controversial, but disallowing items to roll EVERY SINGLE POSSIBLE OFFENSIVE PROPERTY means that, as players, we do actually have to choose. It also increases the relevance of the Mystic in RoS. Now, instead of having to find a quintfecta item, you have to find an item with three correct primary stats and two acceptable secondary stats, then simply enchant it until you have the fourth primary stat you desire. Items should have rolled like this from the get-go. It never, ever, should have been possible to just stack primary + crit chance + crit damage + IAS on every slot they could roll on, and then get your EHP elsewhere. That was fundamentally-shortsighted and I'm glad it's (mostly) gone.

Is Loot 2.x perfect? Fuck no. But nothing, ever, is perfect. I've played a lot of games in my lifetime and I've never, ever, played a perfect game. Flaws exist and we, as human beings, have to acknowledge that and deal with it.

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Add in the "toughness" statistic and, for the average player, you now have a very handy way to determine if more HPs or more mitigation does more for your survivability. If you have payed attention to the toughness stat, at all, you're quickly realizing that you do not need res all or armor on every piece. In fact, I found an Eternal Union ring yesterday with the following stats:

255 intelligence
300 vitality
+20% life
853 life/sec
83 poison resistance
2003 life on kill

Notice it has no resist all or armor, but with my current gear setup it gives me 251,800 toughness (and 1194 healing) which is roughly 200k (and 1194) more than my previous ring while still being a minor offensive upgrade (I never was able to find very good rings pre-2.x). It does not have a massive amount of offense (255 int is kinda MEH for a ring slot) but the fact of the matter is that it has so much EHP and healing that it allows me to sacrifice EHP in other slots quite easily. And now I'm making CHOICES, which is good.

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Quote from Pietrak

4) You exhibit oracle skills about RoS, while anything that will be bad with RoS will be fixed and patched in due time. The way itemization has been reworked (according to what the devs told us over the last months) it's natural that it's hard to find and upgrade now. The system was not designed for finding lvl 60 instant upgrades, but for providing a good experience for RoS endgame.

Hey, that was a nice one Specially the one about me being an oracle and not seeing how it all will be fixed. It made me grin, thumbs up.



Well maybe my point was kinda hidden in all that spam by people who dont read my posts. The thing is this :

IMO the main problem in the diablo series ( and most other arpg ) is that you have no real endgame. you level up, you gear up, and then there is nothing left to do. My point is that it doesn't matter if you level and gear up by Ah or by playing, you still reach the same end point of nothing to do. That's what I think is the main problem of the game and loot 2.0 doesnt change a thing about that.

What I would have loved to see are more things to do at endgear. Pvp, weekly or monthly competitions, ladders, races. Things that keep you busy after you decked out your char. Blizzard had quite a few new ideas in WoW that they keep working on to keep old players busy. I just dont see that in Diablo.

So really, cut the offensive crap and don't be a douche.

Sorry but there are people here who deserve nothing but offensive crap hurled at them. When I post this :

Quote fromTwoflower» Half of you didnt even read what I wrote and just serenaded your old "he just bought items for money and now is butthurt" shit.

and in the VERY NEXT post some idiot writes :

QuotefromCobearz» because he paid to win and now its no longer good.

then sorry, he is garbage. Dont shoot the messager

The Diablo games and most ARPG's never had end game and should never really have end game. To me End Game means the game is done and is time to move on to another game or to restart with another character.

The thing with DIablo II is that the item hunt did help make the game last longer after defeating Hell and if your character is in the 90's. But that was more for finding some specific gear for a new character build you want to try out or maybe for some PvP if you are into that.

In DIII Vanilla (Pre loot 2.0) Items did not really have that much unique or useful affixes except for the over powered ones and then the Auction House just added extra headaches to it since it was usually just easier and faster to search for the item on the Auction House. So for the loot finders it became kind of a big downer. And when the Auction House was getting too flooded with high end gear than Blizzard had to tone down the item drops or at least the chances for some of the higher end gear so for the self find players it became more of a downer. There was some good changes made over the patches but still not that many that had the impact on the main op affixes.

With loot 2.0 it made it that much more for the self find character and improvements to items since Auction House will no longer be with us in about a few weeks. Tonnes of interesting affixes have been added and they might look weak if just looking at the paper doll but they can be very strong if you use certain skills or other items that complement it. In the PtR I made a Lightning Barb and lost quite a bit of DPS on the paper doll but the character seemed to do more effective and more fun to play. I actually removed most Crit from that character as well as not using Skorn.

Maybe you just need some time to adjust to loot 2.0

People dislike the fact that permanence has been removed from character builds, because now they won't be able to lord their supreme builds over others for quite as long. This seems silly and childish, but for someone who's whole life revolves around the game, it could be a big letdown ^^

I don't think people see how much better the skill system is in Diablo 3. Everyone says that there is no customization. Has no one played Diablo 2? Everyone had the exact character build. Yes okay there were different builds but in the end everyone poured their skill points into the same best skills/synergies. In Diablo 3, skills are based on weapon damage and not based on the level of a skill. So, when you hit level 60, you might feel inclined to use a skill you unlocked at level 6.. and it will still be useful. So yes there will be many more builds in Diablo 3.