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At worst you have to wait a night for your stupid wings. Yeesh, who gives a shit?

Quote from Abah

Just imagine the old loot system without any kind of AH... it would have been the worst game ever.

The old loot system would not have existed without the AH though. The Ah was _the_ reason drops were so crappy.

Honestly, I think $9.99 is what the game should cost across the board. It's not a bad game, but it' not a deep game either. I would compare it to an XBox Arcade title.

When your defense of the game consists of "See! This sucked in D2 also!" then you have already lost, regardless of whether you are correct or not. Kind of like Obama supporters touting how Bush Jr. had a poor record on issues X, Y, and Z as well. That's not a defense, it just means that you both suck.

Fact is, I had fun playing DII for a long time, I had fun playing DIII for like 4 weeks total over a 3.5 month period. I don't even care what the reasons are anymore, I don't have fun playing the game, so I moved on.

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"So I moved on"... why am I still posting in this forum? I suppose I'm still hanging back to see if the game gets to a point in which I want to come back.

Quote from LeChokeJames

I love how this complaint is coming out as if there aren't already BOA items existing in the game.

But that's 'kay. Guess what, the ring is a reward for doing essentially a long quest. Everyone is going to get the ring sooner or later. Maybe you expect that your legendary ring reward not be bind to account so that you can sell it. But guess what, even if the ring has stats and is a good item to have it would have NO VALUE because the market would be saturated with them and everyone would be able to get their own anyway.

Get over it.

There's no BoA gear... well, not yet anyway. And I am so sick of hearing the AH used to defend game design decisions. The AH was a massive mistake in my opinion and I don't care how the AH will be affected at all, ever. Admittedly this is just my opinion, not necessarily an absolute.

Also gtfo out with this way to WoWify Diablo criticism. What does that even mean? I would love to hear someone expand on that complaint.

...really?

1. The artistic style of the game.
2. The AH.
3. The compulsive need to "balance" this game which, last I checked, is an ARPG, and requires no such balance. In fact, it just makes the game less fun.
4. Forcing multi-player down out throats with an online-always policy, as if it could not have been implemented any other way.
5. Upcoming BoA gear, if only one piece.

WoW aside, it's obvious that an MMO mentality has had a major influence on this game.

Quote from Vyce223

No, no TL2 is greatness. It's pretty much a person who played diablo 2 and liked it next step forward. I mean I've had it for... 4? or so days now not to mention i didn't get to play it today and i invested 27 hours into it. Boss battles are much more than Diablo 3. Really the only thing it lacks in... or actually does terrible in is storytelling but 95% of people don't give a crap about the story either way.

Ohh and yes I do fully expect to be called out as a liar here.

Well, I said I wasn't expecting greatness, doesn't mean I'm not hoping for it I'll know soon enough.

Keep your talk of nerfs away from ARPGs please. This isn't an MMO, we don't require "balance". If barbs are the best... then buff the other classes.

Quote from Zero(pS)

It also wasn't a bad idea to begin with. It was an amazing idea. So basically instead of an endless dungeon we have the whole D3 world to explore for loot? So instead of making predefined runs, we can go anywhere and it has a chance to give us elite monsters to kill? Awesome!

So, I agree with everything you said, but I would have *vastly* preferred an infinite dungeon. Because the world maps are static (I don't think that a cave here or there popping up constitutes sufficient randomization) they would get boring no matter what. The world ain't big, the world don't change. An infinite, randomized dungeon would be awesome.

Of course... if the world were randomized... that would be awesome too.

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you don't have to invent the wheel again.

Good advice, but often times for class assignments, you do actually have to reinvent the wheel.

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Quote from shaggy

Saying that D2 functioned "perfectly" is just as ridiculous.

Which of course I never said, but ok.

I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. All I know is that I want very much to like this game, but the pattern for me seems to be have fun -> get bored -> wait for patch -> have fun -> get bored -> repeat. I don't care enough to debate why anymore, all I know is it isn't holding my interest, and that's a shame.

The same went for me for D2, to be perfectly honest, except "wait for patch" is sometimes replaced with "wait for ladder reset". What I did back in those days were to pick up another game and play it. Perhaps you should do the same.

Yeah, I just... really want to like Diablo. I haven't been playing much at all lately. I'll probably be back to WoW come MOP and... Marvel Heroes looks awesome.

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Saying that D2 functioned "perfectly" is just as ridiculous.

Which of course I never said, but ok.

I don't know, maybe I'm wrong. All I know is that I want very much to like this game, but the pattern for me seems to be have fun -> get bored -> wait for patch -> have fun -> get bored -> repeat. I don't care enough to debate why anymore, all I know is it isn't holding my interest, and that's a shame.

Quote from Chudz

1300 dps is working as intended 2h have never had significantly more dps than 1 nor should they. They have high alpha damage and slow attack speed. It has nothing to do wit's why they are bad ATM. The reason why they are bad is that they only role 4 primary stats and a socket is also a primary stat. So after it has roled say dex and % damage and elemental damage and a socket your don't get much better. No room for life on hit or crit etc.

2Handers absolutely must be significantly better than 1handers to be even considered by players. Why, you might ask? Because they have to make up for(in Monk/Barbs case): Either a shield or more commonly... 15% ias, 200-400 primary stat, an extra gem slot (+11%+ damage to elites or +100%-110% crit hit damage). They do make up for the stat, but 15% ias AND an extra gem slot is MASSIVE. In the case of Witch doctor & Wizard it has to make up 220 average damage(on a 1.6s weapon, ~350 dps) for an average offhand. I know jack about demon hunter gearing, so I won't comment on their bows vs xbow vs 1h crossbows.

15% IAS and an Extra gem slot. Up to 350-400 DPS(base), 10% crit as well as flavor. These are the two things you give up to go 2h. At the very least, 2H should be seeing 1600-1700 base DPS, and EVEN THEN they may not be optimal, due to gems. (We're seeing 1300-1400 DPS 1Hs with gem slots and 300+ primary stat on top of the end rolls. Two of these are equivalent of ~1610 DPS. Couple 100% crit hit damage, and you've got a lot to make up here.)

So Yes, 2Hs should have a significant advantage over 1Hs. Otherwise there is no reason to use a 2H except in niche builds, and even in those it may be seen as disadvantageous over simply using a 1h with a shield. I can't even fathom when a 2.0 rolled 2H can ever be even considered on a witch doctor or Wizard, due to how powerful offhands are.

Blizzard also agrees with this, as can be seen by crafted items. *spoilers*:

Please stop embedding songs as some kind of statement. It seems highly-tangential and argumentative. It was annoying when Indimix did it. It's annoying here too. It doesn't matter what "side" of the argument you're on... it's just annoying. Perhaps just put in a link to the lyrics or something, I don't know.

More on-topic...

There are plenty of examples on this forum of people who have basically admitted they got too hyped up and too emotionally-vested in a game. The guy who started the "D3 is designed for consoles" thread basically admitted to what most would consider a very unhealthy level of "fandom" which clearly played a large role in his ultimate letdown in the game.

It may not necessarily be entitlement culture, but there are definitely undercurrents on these forums that it's Blizzards #1 job to please each of us on an individual basis. So perhaps that's not entitlement but more a ridiculous, grandiose, and irrational sense of self-importance.

Why would anyone buy singleplayer items with real money? And as for Gold Ah , ppl probably got tired of D3 overall , went playing other games like tl2 , pandas etc ...

Quote from Desolacer

Notice that many D3 players are now inactive for Mists of Pandaria

or any other fun game ...

I would love an endless dungeon. Bring back the D1 feel add in some D1 monsters and we'll be golden!

I agree a little... Mostly because Ihave killed 109,610 total monsters, and 5992 of those were elites, and I only found ONE Legendary, it was a Stormshield I was able to sell for 80 dollars on RMAH. Yeah, great, awesome profit. But it only took 150+ hours of game-play.

Yeah, I get it, my MF is only 140, but for a DH that's already too much because I have horrible defensive abilities, but a whopping 100k DPS :D.

So just putting it out there, there ARE people who play and play and play, have three level 60's (almost 5) and have nothing to show for all the play except what he's able to buy.