The development life cycle isn't that easy of a process to work through, and it just irks me to her people speculating on how systems should have been built to incorporate unforeseen twists and turns in how companies plan for their projects to evolve. These people have lives and families too, they can't just code 24/7/365 so we can have unlimited bug free content as out disposal.
What I love is "just put some more people on the problem!" As if you're hammering nails into a floor.
I think main reason why people feel compelled to use the Auction House is because of how loot is rolled. There are quite a few stats that no player really wants in a general sense, things like: +health and potions, thorns, gold find, life on kill. On top of that, the stats you do want can roll in a wide range, the odds of you actually getting an item that is an upgrade decreases dramatically the more items you acquire.
With this, the AH provides a fantastic avenue to instead of playing RNG you can just buy the items you are looking for. The real problem here is that since you are buying items, the chances of you getting an upgrade from a drop significantly decreases. In a sense, you are stuck in a feedback loop with the AH.
I highly recommend that the OP tries out Path of Exile. It's loot system is similar enough to D3 but adds in some interesting twists. Also, it's free.
What I do is I just farm keys for the infernal machine on MP3 and pick up everything Blue and up. I keep and sell mediocre rares for 50k+ depending on how bad it is, the rest I salvage and sell the crafting mats and tomes I get. In the last 10 hours or so I've made 3 mil. Its not the fastest way to make gold but it's consistant and I've been steadily increasing.
I've been having a lot of issues selling rares in the sub 100k amount. My stuff just doesn't seem to go, even after reducing the price to 25k and lower. What stats on which items do you look for?
These topics come up often and are always replied with the same "Farm more.", which doesn't help the OP in any way.
I've gone from 5 million to 15 million just selling gems. I have recipes for Star cuts of each color and I just farm until I have no more of the crappy rares up on the AH(the ones that sell for like 25k >.>). By that time, I usually have 100-150 Flawless gems and I just use the tomes I pick up and make gems until I am out. Then I put up everything, except Flawless, on the AH. Usually takes about a day to sell everything with the occasional re-list.
Also, right now Inferno Essences are going for quite a bit. Although they are going down in price again. If you have some, I'd sell those off if you need money right now.
However, if you want to invest, the new crafting recipes in 1.0.7 might use Essences/Tears, you can start picking up Blues during your farm runes and salvaging them. It's a bit of a gamble, though. You might end up with a whole bunch of essences worth 500g a piece :|
Hope this helps! Good luck
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I almost forgot, use this site for looking at prices. Helps a ton.
While you provide a means of making gold to the OP, all you've really done is state what you've criticized others for stating, which is farm more...
So yeah, just farm, however you want to do it.
There is a difference between telling someone, who is asking for help, "Just farm more." and giving examples.
Have you tried a Arcane Dynamo Meteor build? If you can CC mobs with a freeze-doc or a CM wizard the build performs very well, produces big numbers and is easy to play.
It's also worth mentioning that when farming it's generally not worth picking up and identifying every rare that drops.
If you have low amounts of gold and are struggling to get more, this is the worst advice in the world. Yes, picking up rares and vendoring them is typically not worth it because it slows down your runs and in effect of that slows down the potential to get better drops.
I would like to point out that Essences and Tears will be steadily increasing in price until the apex happens. With a Goldskin, picking up every blue and rare, I am making very good gold given that I have yet to find that big rare/legendary that's worth more than 500k.
These topics come up often and are always replied with the same "Farm more.", which doesn't help the OP in any way.
I've gone from 5 million to 15 million just selling gems. I have recipes for Star cuts of each color and I just farm until I have no more of the crappy rares up on the AH(the ones that sell for like 25k >.>). By that time, I usually have 100-150 Flawless gems and I just use the tomes I pick up and make gems until I am out. Then I put up everything, except Flawless, on the AH. Usually takes about a day to sell everything with the occasional re-list.
Also, right now Inferno Essences are going for quite a bit. Although they are going down in price again. If you have some, I'd sell those off if you need money right now.
However, if you want to invest, the new crafting recipes in 1.0.7 might use Essences/Tears, you can start picking up Blues during your farm runes and salvaging them. It's a bit of a gamble, though. You might end up with a whole bunch of essences worth 500g a piece :|
Hope this helps! Good luck
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I almost forgot, use this site for looking at prices. Helps a ton.
I gave you rep now because that's solid advice. I do the same but I never actually thought of saying it as it's a path travelled less often. It's good advice if you have no intention of using the gems on your characters.
But it IS still farming, you're just farming for something else, though it can actually be considered passive farming as it's usually not your main focus.
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It is still farming, yes. But, the difference between farming for rares or legendary items and gems is the same as just picking up gold during runs: it's a consistent income, which is what I think the OP is asking for. With that said, I hate it when someone is asking for legit advice and they get mediocre answers. I've been on the OPs side of the fence many times and have gotten the same treatment.
My only interest in gold is to upgrade my gear and progress into higher monster power levels. Just an example; i looked up an immortal king's chest on ah only to find the cheapest one to be 17mil. It's not looking possible for me anytime soon...
Thats the problem right there. So many "trendy" legendaries are way overpriced even more if you consider the fact that an equal rare is like 10 times cheaper...There is no need for an lk chest. You dont need vile wards. Learn how to gear up without those overpriced legendaries and you will find decent upgrades for less then like 2 or 3mil on the ah.
For like 10mil total anyone could get a decent barb capable speed farming mp0/1 and doing higher mps for keys and/or ubers. 10mil is kinda easy to come by. Farm like 1 week. Pickup all the gold along the way and just sell any crap rolled item to the vendor. Check ah for items what you think they could be worth something and list those. If they dont sell either lower the pricetag or sell em to the vendor and keep farming.
And one tip for free: Armor with goldfind+pickup no matter what stats they got selling good and fast...Rings/Amu with gf sells as well. Boots with gf+pickup+12%ms = easy 1mil. While farming you find plenty of goldfind items and its easy money.
I cannot emphasize this advice enough. You have to play an anti role when it comes to guides mostly. An example:
Guy makes guide that says [LEGENDARY ITEM] is the best DPS per 1g on the market. The price of that item is going to go up, if you have the capital you can buy the stats he specifically lists in the guide and re sell them or look at the stats he's wanting and search for rares. Items like the Immortal Kings chest are good, and as stated, you can buy equal stats or a bit less for way, way, cheaper. You just have to ask yourself what stats are useful on the legendary and search for rares.
As time goes on you will be able to find cheaper gear on the auction. As of now, you can find gear that isn't rolled perfectly for drastically reduced prices. An example of this would be looking for bracers with 5.5% crit instead of 6%, or rings at 3.5% crit instead of 4%. Items with 9% attack speed are very expensive but 8% not as much. Vile Ward was mentioned and it has the same rules. On US servers you can buy a Vile Ward with Life % instead of Vitality for a lower price. Play around with the number thresholds, you'd be surprised on what you can buy if you put in 190 strength instead of 200.
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by 1500 viewers he really means 2.
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I will start crafting shoulders instead of Necklaces then! Thanks!
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@pichapie: I have only tried crafting an amulet. Since I have Vile Wards I didn't think I'd get much of an upgrade. Am I thinking wrong?
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I would like to stay away from CM because I don't like the game play. Currently I play Archon.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Lohk-1930/hero/3370018
Any help would be appreciated.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQ_bjoQV-8Q
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What I love is "just put some more people on the problem!" As if you're hammering nails into a floor.
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With this, the AH provides a fantastic avenue to instead of playing RNG you can just buy the items you are looking for. The real problem here is that since you are buying items, the chances of you getting an upgrade from a drop significantly decreases. In a sense, you are stuck in a feedback loop with the AH.
I highly recommend that the OP tries out Path of Exile. It's loot system is similar enough to D3 but adds in some interesting twists. Also, it's free.
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I've been having a lot of issues selling rares in the sub 100k amount. My stuff just doesn't seem to go, even after reducing the price to 25k and lower. What stats on which items do you look for?
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There is a difference between telling someone, who is asking for help, "Just farm more." and giving examples.
Thanks though.
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If you have low amounts of gold and are struggling to get more, this is the worst advice in the world. Yes, picking up rares and vendoring them is typically not worth it because it slows down your runs and in effect of that slows down the potential to get better drops.
I would like to point out that Essences and Tears will be steadily increasing in price until the apex happens. With a Goldskin, picking up every blue and rare, I am making very good gold given that I have yet to find that big rare/legendary that's worth more than 500k.
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It is still farming, yes. But, the difference between farming for rares or legendary items and gems is the same as just picking up gold during runs: it's a consistent income, which is what I think the OP is asking for. With that said, I hate it when someone is asking for legit advice and they get mediocre answers. I've been on the OPs side of the fence many times and have gotten the same treatment.
I cannot emphasize this advice enough. You have to play an anti role when it comes to guides mostly. An example:
Guy makes guide that says [LEGENDARY ITEM] is the best DPS per 1g on the market. The price of that item is going to go up, if you have the capital you can buy the stats he specifically lists in the guide and re sell them or look at the stats he's wanting and search for rares. Items like the Immortal Kings chest are good, and as stated, you can buy equal stats or a bit less for way, way, cheaper. You just have to ask yourself what stats are useful on the legendary and search for rares.
As time goes on you will be able to find cheaper gear on the auction. As of now, you can find gear that isn't rolled perfectly for drastically reduced prices. An example of this would be looking for bracers with 5.5% crit instead of 6%, or rings at 3.5% crit instead of 4%. Items with 9% attack speed are very expensive but 8% not as much. Vile Ward was mentioned and it has the same rules. On US servers you can buy a Vile Ward with Life % instead of Vitality for a lower price. Play around with the number thresholds, you'd be surprised on what you can buy if you put in 190 strength instead of 200.