holy fuck some people need more save spaces...*german guy totally speechless*
is it really soo difficult for some people to not be offended?
i cant get my head around that.
btw quinn i laughed my ass off.
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- Jalatiphra
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the holy damage you are talking about is the elemental type of the weapons damage. if you roll it away you will literally do no damage at all.
You should not do it. In general the type of element can be neglegted. There are only some cases where this is important.
The only way to have int dmg% and CDR and a socket on a weapon is to use ramaladni's gift to get a free socket, thus you have 3 free stat slots + the weapon damage.
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there is no new information .its just the same post as in season 5 with minor changes.
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somebody will get his mind blown^^
wellcome to the most stupid option blizzard ever created
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well done^^
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lol look at my account where am i botting ...
dafuk iam not even paragon 1000 http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Jalatiphra-2532/hero/120019
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Its like he is having fun in real live while also getting something for nothing (basically for free) in Virtual life.
Sounds awesome to me
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i did not try it though, bit iam eager to test it once it goes live , dont wanna spoil ne fun
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i never said i was botting or anything... wtf dude
iam outa here
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Well now you are at least trying. thats something.
I kind of get now where the problem lies in our communication.
I guess you interpret what we state as an explanation for cheating - as an excuse for cheating.
You're not wrong. If someone says he bots because he has no time - its an excuse. But at the same time it's an explanation.
The difference between both is, that an explanation is objective and an excuse has a notion of emotional rating - by yourself. Rated in negative way of course.
Its negative because you say there is in general no excuse for cheating . and you'Re right again.
Of course when somebody says he is botting becaus he has no time it is an excuse BY THAT PERSON for that person.
However the statement / fact that somebody( note its anonymous here) cheated because of lack of time is not to be interpreted as an excuse but rather as an explanation for something.
We do not deny that its also an excuse but if you take it as an objective statement you can start asking WHY all this is happening.
You woulnt say to this senstence that it is containing an excuse, would you? :" Someone could cheat because he lacks the time to otherwise reach his goals in the game."
Because here the word "could" implies that its only a possibility. Since an excuse has to directed at another person or a group of people.
So it all comes down to interpreting what is said in a way that will benefit the discussion. If you don't want to thats your coice of course - but for the sake of the discussion you should try not to see it as an excuse.(even if it is one)
To qoute you
:All of the reason cheaters cheat can be classified under these 3. What could you possibly enlighten on the situation, that hasn't been done before?
If you don't like Diablo 3 without cheats, and you cheat, then you aren't playing D3. Simple as that.
You're right with those 3 categories. Nothing to object here. I also probably cant add any new category what you desired from me.
But just because these categories exist doesnt mean there is no deeper meaning in all of this.
could it just be possible that you still think the topic of this discussion is : Is there any valid reason for cheating?
And of course - there isn't!
But by hearing out people who cheat we get there subjective reasons (which are excuses on a personal level) but we interpret them as explanations for a certain behaviour and based on this we try to find commonalities between all cheaters which would help us pinpoint the most common excuses for cheating. (These commonalities are of course the 3 categories you mentioned yourself - this part of the discussion is so to say finsihed)
Deeper analysation of "most common excuses" for cheating could potentially reveal shortcommings of the game which could be changed in a way that eiminates (optimum) or at least alleviates the need for botting for people having these excuses in common.
So the topic of the thread is :
How can diablo be changed to reduce cheating / make cheating less attractive?
Does our mumojumbo at least make a little sense now with the possibility that you just got the topic wrong ?
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sorry how could i not understand what you were writing.
now after you repeated yourself for the 3rd time all becomes clear.
sorry - you are totally right - everything in life is black and white - as is cheating.
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look.. we are not arguing pro cheating. we are trying to discuss and analyze how we could make botting less attractive thats all.
why do you want to stop this discussion?
guess iam talking against a wall with some people here..
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yeah if you would have read my postings i kind of agree with you.
what I agree with you when you say cheating will always happen in some way
i disagree when you say we cant do anything game related to change the effectiveness of botting.
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well its like your mother telling you not to stay up late a hundret times when you were young and you still didnt accept it .. right?
excuses aren't lame - excuses are important to understand the mindframe of people. Once you understood this by having something like empathy you can react accordingly and try to do something against the problem. It even enables yourself to realize that there is indeed a problem.
But ofcourse if you are egocentric and only care about your own oppinion, of course what you say makes sense.
But basically you're just being unconstructive. - You even quote a post which states "this is not an excuse" (and i agree with that - the post is analyzing the situation in an abstract way - not even writing about him/herself) but complain that excuses (like the one quoted) are lame.
You are not only unconstructive but also rather contradictory.
I have another word for that but i will get banned if i say it. - but i guess you got the point
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that is correct thaya, if you make botting worthless botting will stop.
That could be done by scaling bounties and rifts the same way grifts to.
If you can for example do bounties on grift lv 80 difficulty - which bots cannot do you need to make sure that the reward is so much bigger than what bounties on TX via bots could accomplish.
However this will not make bounties on TX useless but just less effective than doing it manually.
Your argument is that bots do not farm xp because doing it manually is much more effective.
However you cannot be sure that nobody will use bots for XP while they are sleeping. Getting a little bit of xp is still better than no xp while you are sleeping.
While these changes would likely decrease botting, it will not remove it completly.
UNLESS you make bounties and rifts only yield rewards if you do them on the same difficulty as your highest solo grift.
If you cleared grift 80 your Torment X would be as difficult as grift 80 - all the time.
Something similar was suggested a while ago in another form and it was called infernal torment or something like that.
Instead of having a TX which is always the same, the TX dfiffulty would actually scale with your highest grift.
That would make botting impossible from a certain point on.
I like this idea but its very casual unfriendly.
Even with this approach botting is still usefull.
Just bot for 2 month before you start solo grifting and TX will still be TX as it is today.
you accumulate thousands of mats and keys and only then you stop botting to push solo grifts.
=> consequence, no matter what you do, botting will stay.
Also nothing prevents improvment in botting implenentation. Maybe changing the game like i described will just increase motivation for bot implementers to make them better being able to handle the circumstances.
=> arms race.as always.
The only thing which would prevent botting is a method of making sure a human is at the PC, such as captcha before grift and so on
allthough technically possible, thats something every company will try to avoid because its such a big hassle