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    posted a message on Power for money ? Is that ok with the D3 Community?
    Quote from Burzghash

    Some things to note:

    1. Paying real money for items is going to happen, whether Blizzard officially sanctions it, or not. Through the RMAH, players can at least be guaranteed a safe, expedited experience.
    2. 'Pay 2 Win' means nothing in the context of D3. Who are you paying to win over? Diablo? Is Diablo going to be mad that you're buying items to kick his ass harder? Is it Tyrael? Is Tyrael offended that you have besmirched your honor by spending real money for items?
    3. PvP will feature automated matchmaking. You will only ever be matched against people of approximately your same gear level, with an internal ELO rating matching you against players of comparable skill. If you buy power, you'll simply be matched against more powerful people. Completely negating any claims of 'pay 2 win'.

    For some games, involving real money is an actual detriment, which has the potential to harm gameplay and fun. Diablo 3 is not one of those games.
    Everything you've said is pretty much true, but if the game detects gear, and if skill does matter, then wouldn't it suck to get some bad kid who spend $400 on your team when you are doing the random matched pvp ?
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    posted a message on Power for money ? Is that ok with the D3 Community?
    Quote from Wakka9000

    Exsanguis716 you are a moron. Want views for your yt chanell? Miserable greedy filth. Power for money means you can buy special items. But this IS an AUCTIONS , IMBECILE! You Cuold write your point of view in 2 sentences - yet you make video so every one watch your crappy vid
    I tend to avoid typing, I'd rather just speak whats on my mind, 1 video of 50+ is a discussion video, man I'm such a douchebag(sarcasm).
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    posted a message on Power for money ? Is that ok with the D3 Community?
    Quote from FoxBatD2

    Quote from Saljen

    On the other hand, you can ding to level 60, spend $100 and get a badass character, but you'll get DESTROYED in PvP because PvP is going to have a matchmaking system similar to Starcraft 2. This means the people who are legitimately badass and good at playing their character will have a massive advantage from those who just bought it and jumped right in.

    The absurdity of equating a3/a4 farming with pvp experience has already been dealt with, so I'll address this one.

    People who are "badass" are going to push their ranking up pretty quickly and be fighting other badass players. People who spent all their money and don't know what they are doing are going to drop their ranking and be paired up with weak players. Only this time the rankings are hidden so you don't truly know where you stand. Either group is going to end up winning/losing about half their matches either way and not really know any better. This is why D3 PvP cannot be truly "competitive" because you can't truly win (hence you can't pay-to-win either.) You can't prove that you're the top anything, aside from how much time you've spent pvping.
    Once again, If the game was less than 75% gear, the other 25% being skill, Id be suprised the gear % is that low.
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    posted a message on Power for money ? Is that ok with the D3 Community?
    Quote from neofire

    The only time being able to buy power for money is a problem is when that power isn't obtainable w/o any use of real life money. In D3 you can get everything in the game from playing the game. Even if there's an item on the Real money auction house you can sell items or gold to get currency for it. Believe it or not money doesn't magically appear out of nowhere. If people want to spend money that they had to work for in real life to get something in game then let them. If you don't like the Real Money Auction House don't use it. No one is forcing you to. You will be able to kill inferno diablo without it if you have any skill. You will be able to be very competitive in PvP without it if you have skill.
    It could be worse, but lets not try to fool ourselves into thinking that skill matters more than gear in diablo, or that its even close for that matter, check athene .
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    posted a message on Power for money ? Is that ok with the D3 Community?
    Quote from Wafflez132

    Quote from Exsanguis716

    Quote from Wafflez132

    All i hear is whine. Not even worth the time listening to you.
    We should hate the game, because you say so? that's just wierd.
    maybe you should just quit the game, instead of uploading your emotional problems.
    I never said I didn't enjoy the game one time, I never said you should hate the game, so... maybe you should quit the game, your comment made me think you want to .

    Go to 1:00
    .................... Even though what I said could have been said better, directly after that I explain how it doesn't exactly apply to blizzard in the way that it does to games who the company themselves sell the items or gear, besides that anyways, If you want to hear it, I dislike diablo 3 more than I would have if it didn't have power for money as a game feature.
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    posted a message on Power for money ? Is that ok with the D3 Community?
    Quote from Wafflez132

    All i hear is whine. Not even worth the time listening to you.
    We should hate the game, because you say so? that's just wierd.
    maybe you should just quit the game, instead of uploading your emotional problems.
    I never said I didn't enjoy the game one time, I never said you should hate the game, so... maybe you should quit the game, your comment made me think you want to .
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    posted a message on Power for money ? Is that ok with the D3 Community?
    Quote from Alucard_Tnuoc

    Oh noes... money for power!!!

    Plenty of games do such a thing, it's not taboo. Just because a lot of games DON'T do it doesn't mean it's a rule that all games must abide by.

    If they didn't let you buy things with real currency, sure as hell gold sellers would have a much larger market, buy gold, use gold to buy items more round about way to use money for power.
    I can't think of a single game that isnt korean that blatantly sells power for money.
    Oh, and its taboo to me, why play a game thats about getting gear, and spend more money on the game to make it end faster, then punish the people who got you that gear by facerolling them in pvp ?
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    posted a message on Power for money ? Is that ok with the D3 Community?
    Quote from SolTheDruid

    "Nodoby ever sells power for money" <-- stopped watching after that. Please do some research and avoid making statements about things you know nothing about.
    I said it almost never happens, did I say nobody, besides that anyone who does is frowned upon by any real gamer so yea.... whats your point sol ?
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    posted a message on Power for money ? Is that ok with the D3 Community?
    Not trying to claim its a Impenetrable argument, just the first thing that came to my head when thinking about the RMAH coming out tomorrow, making it easier and safer to buy power with money than it would have been is a bad thing IMO.
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    posted a message on Barb soloing Belial and Zoltun, w/ 5 Stacks Neph Valor
    Well, that and a lot of people are giving up the game because they think its hard to do inferno, when if you just focus on it for a little bit, and play the AH you can make progress pretty fast.
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    posted a message on Barb soloing Belial and Zoltun, w/ 5 Stacks Neph Valor
    Sup guys after I this time I finally managed to solo belial and Zoltun with 5 stacks on the first time I've made it to them, Thanks for watching.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ab8gj3X6T8M

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYAIZJuJ2ww
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    posted a message on Another Goblin Farming spot in Act 2, Three quests in
    Arcture you wouldn't happen to be talking about something like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfBDsTu3MzI would you ? XD
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    posted a message on Another Goblin Farming spot in Act 2, Three quests in
    Haha daish, I used to not have a problem with you, but now that you're bashing my video with false claims, I dislike you.
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    posted a message on Another Goblin Farming spot in Act 2, Three quests in
    This is pretty known among the streamers, and favored over the other spot among hardcore players because of the safety of the waypoint, hope this can help you :)


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbKX9u9vrjw&lc=8vihTYUeFc4wp8LKRi7Xq1YORXzOZN97-DzkQlydyOY&feature=inbox
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