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uh 98 reputation now. Slowly clawing my way up the rep ranks.

I kinda want this to get started as soon as possible, so we can get to playing and having fun, but it is also good to iron out details.

I have nothing against you guys taking your time building something good to work off of. We are diablofans.com after all, waiting is like our thing.

I have 84. I don't remember it being that high.

Apparently I have a spectacular aura about.

No doubt from having over 50 Rep points I would imagine.

Maybe one day I'll get to 100.

Would I be wrong in assuming that you Teo base your dislike of anime on the overwhelmingly large number of anime with characters with huge eyes, cute creatures, pink, green, blue, hair in rediculous hair styles, such as in the like of Yu Gi Oh, Pokemon, Digimon, Duel Masters, Zoids, Gundam, etc and other such animes that are referred to as the 4PM anime. That is to say it is often screened at 4pm, when the younger people get home from school.

These anime are the one people are first exposed to, and this causes many people to think that this is what all anime is. The anime for a much older audience is screened much later, usually during Adult Swim on Cartoon Network, but even then it is still sometimes the anime that is targeted for a younger audience.

Anime is often repeatitive, its the same tired characters (or similar looking characters) over and over again. Then I found Berserk.

Sure it's dated now, it did come out in 1997, but it had no little kids with green spike hair, no cute little monsters, no huge eyes. It did have a character with an over sized sword (yet another staple of anime), but this time the character looked like one who could actually swing such a sword. It was also, rather gorey and violent and there was the odd bit of nudity. Sadly it was cancelled before the season final, at the time it was demmed too violent/risque for TV.



I like anime, but I can't stand all those Yu Gi Oh, DBZ, Pokemon shows, instead I retire myself to watching, Basilisk (a sort of romeo and juliet tale, but with ninja clans), Berserk (Medieval Fantasy), Ghost in the Shell (Computer hackers and internet espionage), Ninja Scoll (Feudal Japan Fantasy), and Hellsing


Not everyone has to like anime, I don't think your alone here in not liking anime, Teo.

A tall muscular man in a chainmail shirt stood before Buliwyf and one of the militia, the last two men of their platoon.

"I commend you, boy." shouted the man. "Your little rag tag band have killed some of my best men. And now you stand alone before Hrunndir, defiant to the end. Look at you panting away, barely able to swing that sword of yours. It is a shame your friends are not here to witness this. No matter, you shall join them soon enough."

"We shall see." taunted Buliwyf.

"so eager to meet your death." Hrunndir called. "Then so be it whelp."

Buliwyf charged him but failed to fully parry Hrunndir's attack. Hrunndir's broad sword found its's mark in Buliwyf's right shoulder. Buliwyf knocked Hrunndir to the ground with and an upward thrust of the hilt of his sword and plunged his sword into his chest. He then lumbered towards the militia man who had made his way over to a crossbow on the ground, and fired it at Buliwyf, firing a bolt into his upper left arm.

"Wh.. Who... are you?" blurted the villager as he scrambled backwacks in dismay as his attack had failed.

"There is no point in giving you my name." retorted Buliwyf as he continued to approach the militia man. "You will not live long enough to remember it."

He gripped the hilt of his claymore tight, and mustered all the strength he had left and lifted his sword high above his head and brought it down upon his foe's head, cleaving his skull.

"Such a waste of life."

Buliwyf wearily dragged himself to nearby boulder, and dug the blade of his sword in the ground and rested on the rocky surface of the boulder to reflect.

"This is not a battle, this is a massacre." he thought to himself as he broke the shaft of the crossbow bolt before fainting from the blood loss due to his wounds.

"Brother! where are you!" he cried out before slipping out of consciousness.

If you mouse over a persons green square it gives a message. These messages are set to appear when you reach certain levels of reputation.

But I do this showing an actual number would be nice too.


I think 50 is the next level of reputation for most people here. I'm at 72 and it says I will become famous soon.

Elfen Lied-style method of replying? lol

If you would be so kind as to explain why such a thing is considered to be bad?

He clearly explains his points in that post. If a point needs elaborating or further discussion beoynd a simple yes or no, he does so. Personally I couldn't have said it better. Though I might have left out some of the parts about the disccussion about dumb and/or intelligent people and just stuck to the topic at hand. Quests.

Well, a game without quests being meaningless might be ones opinion, yet even if it is its simply wrong, there are numerous games that do not have anything to do with quests, storyline, etc... So they are all considered to be meaningless? Thats just a ridiculous conclusion.
Personally i love well-thought out (side)quests in roleplaying games, but then i expect to have quests which are actually better then the complete moronic boredom you had in say a game like Oblivion and i expect the game to actually be a roleplaying game where you can make choices as to what sort of character you become (choices where "fighting" is but one of them, thus again ruling out games like Oblivion/Sacred 2), else don't even bother. Maybe a hack&slash with well thought out questing could very well work, but i have yet to see one thats actually better then your average "do this, do that", which i obviously do not want in Diablo. I would love to see some random quests return as in D1, but don't over flood the player with them just because you lack the imagination and talent to make one good one. Diablo never was about questing, Diablo is about creating numerous hack&slash characters.

What you describe is awfully reminescient of the various computerised Dungeons and Dragons games, namely Baldur's Gate II. Often in some ofthe larger quests which more often that not require you to infiltrate a cultist lair or somekind and discover their activities, you are given the choice of directly storming the place and killing anything with a pulse (and on the odd occasion stuff without a pulse (Undead)), or you can try to use a more stealthy approach an pretend to be a member. The latter usually provide you with more quests and items. Both are adequette ways of dealing with the situation.

Personally I go with the latter in the above instance.

Random quests are what maketh the game IMHO. To take the example of Baldur's Gate II again, there is nothing like stumbling acroos a blood soaked street littered with the rotting (and more importantly skinless) corpses, only to find out that the seemingly simple case of a serial killer offing a few bums is actually a much more deeper, darker case of something rivalling Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs. The event is totally random, you just happen upon it.

Actually almost all of the 300 (err maybe it's more like 400, 400, 500? let's just say 400 and call it even, ok) or so quests in that game are side quests and very few are ever really forced upon you. And the ones that are, you kinda have to actually go to the place the NPC is and be with a certain radius of them. You can walk passed them and not get the quest.

I am not saying Blizzard should emulate Baldur's Gate, but in regards to quests it's certainly a well thought out game. Even the mindless generic "fex-ex" and "grindfest" quests don't seem as boring, mostly because the NPC never explicitly tells you how many things he needs or how many creatures he needs to to kill. Do so always makes it more boring I feel. Seems Blizz got that down pat in Diablo 1 and 2. Kill the high Council members, that was the quest, did it feel like one of the kill x amount of y quests that so plague WOW, nope. You knew you had to kill all 6 of them, but no where did it actually say there was 6 of them nor did it list each member and preceed their name with the 0/1, like such a quest would have in WOW (or all MMO's not sure haven't played many).

But then again there was only 6 of them, Not like in the Den of Evil quest. Which it seems did the reverse. It told you directly how many you had left to kill (so long as it was 10 or less) rather than telling you exactly how many you had killed.

each Diablo game introduced NEW CONCEPTS and NEW CLASSES.

this remix and rehash of other classes and skills is UNACCEPTABLE.

In Diablo you had the Sorcerer. In Diablo II you had the sorceress
In Diablo you had Fire Bolt. In Diablo II you had Fire Bolt
In Diablo you had Fire Ball. In Diablo II you had Fire Ball
In Diablo you had Fire Wall. In Diablo II you had Fire Wall
In Diablo you had Lightning. In Diablo II you had Lightning
In Diablo you had Chain Lightning. In Diablo II you had Chain Lightning
In Diablo you had Charged Bolt. In Diablo II you had Charged Bolt
In Diablo you had Golem. In Diablo II you had (Clay) Golem
In Diablo you had Nova. In Diablo II you had Nova
In Diablo you had Telekinesis. In Diablo II you had Telekinesis
In Diablo you had Guardian. In Diablo II you had Hydra
In Diablo you had Bone Spirit. In Diablo II you had Bone Spirit
In Diablo you had Holy Bolt. In Diablo II you had Holy Bolt
In Diablo you had Inferno. In Diablo II you had Inferno
In Diablo you had Teleport. In Diablo II you had Teleport


this remix and rehash of other classes and skills is not the diablo way?

They would also have to remove scimitar, rapier, falchion and hurlbat by that rational.

But sanctuary is not actually that unique. It mirrors ours on many occasions (that or we just think it does)

Act has a striking resemblance to the stone walls fields of England, France and Germany, Act II looks very much like the Middle East and Egypt. Act III looks a lot like the Jungles and pyramid cities of South and Central America, Act V has several parallels to the tundras and frozen lands of Scandinavia.

Jehren is referred to as a Sultan. Like many leaders of the Middle East countries, or the second main character in Arabian Nights.

If sanctuary is so unique, why does Griswold have a Scottish low land accent, why does Cain have a Sean Connery/Edinburgh-esque accent, why does Alkor have a think Indian accent.

Sanctuary does not seem so unique when one looks a little further into it.

Cool, i always thought Musashi was just a servant of someone because hes a samurai.
Now i just have to check wiki for 'Tokugawa Shogunate'. :rolleyes:

*Edit: done

With a name like Kenzai, which sounds an awful lot like Kensai, or Sword Saint, one would think you knew much about the greatest Sword Saint who ever lived.

Myrmidon

I would avoid the word Myrmidon, what with there being Myrmidons in WOW, and as soon as people realise that all hell breaks loose.

Achilles' Myrmidons are nothing more than elite Hoplites. Much like the Spartans.

Well technically the word is Kensei, not Kensai.

Samurai will want japanese swords (katana's), then people will try to be ninja's and before you know the game is invaded with kung-fu kids.

That didn't happen in D1 with the samurai armor and sword.





That sword is actually one of the best in the game. The armor, not so much.

Samurai are awesome, however, I'd be fine if they just made Feudal Japanese style armor and weapons for barbarians

It would be for all, as it was in D1.

I love the japanese culture but still the samurai wont fit in... Samurai dosent use magic he uses Techniques so that makes him a pure fighting class and the place is alrdy taken by the Barbarian.

Prehaps. But prehaps there is another way to think about this. NPC. Non playable character. With this newly renamed island in the north (it was previously unamed), with an very asian sounding name, Xiansai, is it not possible to see a character based on the samurai but is infact an NPC, that is to say someone you talk to and do quests for. And is not a playable class. It seems some of you are are too quick to judge things without completely thinking things through all the way or in greater detail.

I am quite amazed this idea has not come up yet. Must all classes suggested be playable ones in d3. Why not NPC only in D3 playable in d4.

Natalya is an assassin, but you couldn't be one until you got the expansion.

And if im not wrong a Samurai serves its master but also its family so if the "master" died the samurai will serve the next heritage

Some not all. As stated multiple times, some serve whomever had the highest amount of coin.

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If you have feelings toward any of them, Elfen, I'll totally stay away. But maybe Requiem would be susceptible to my advances.

Oh, so you were the one that asked me out on the reputation thing.

<3 or something.

That only happened once on a gigantic forum, I don't think we need any strict rules. It was more of a joke than anything. Besides, it was perfectly legal, they weren't cloning or anything.

Can i point out that Natalya is the Set too. She disappears because she thought that Ormus had fallen to the powers of Mephisto and that with mephisto "dead" she thought he wouldn't be a threat anyway.

P.S. Has anyone figured out what the Standard of Heroes does?

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Here is my current progress on elfens post of sugestions:


ok guys the whitish text the requests, green text DeMiNe0's reply and the blue text just some comments by Elfen Lied

1.
either bring back the shoutbox or some institute some kinda live chat a form of d3.com msn, we faithful members miss the shoutbox bad, you could have shoutbox or live chat on a seperate page only accessable by members of this site, that way guests would be able to read whats in it, that and spamming why the shoutbox was taken away wasnt it

Done, look at the java irc client.

cool, still some people cant access it, is Livechat/shoutbox still a possiblity

2.
inactive account deletion after 3 months or so, coz something really needs to be done about the abundance of inactive accounts here (sorry if it seems a little harse its just how i feel and im not the only one with this point of view)

inactive accounts need to stay for the purpose of brining people back through mailings if we happen to find somthing more interested to add to the site. This is the reason why we have the "Active Member" count. This ensures that people know how active the site is.

ok then, but it is annoying having all those guys just sitting there for 4 or so months and not posting

3.
different names other than junior member, member, and senior member (prehaps the ones i suggested in my new post names poll http://www.diablo3.com/forums/showth...ght=post+names) and if these names are choosen, a link to a page that says, what each name is and how many post you need for each (people keep asking it gets annoying, [this kind of things really should be in the FAQ, im not sure if it is])

I think im going to go with your titles. I dont want to post a page that says when a user will get each title, because it gives a user something to spam toards. I rather just leave it as a surpise on when they'll get the rank,

right on, change complete

4.
an area for people to post introductory posts, you know a seperate subsection like 'd3 chat' ''polls and surveys' also in this area should be posts detailing things new comers need to know, mostly posting rules and the like (even though this kind of info is FAQ material)

I'll do that soon as well.

ok, these sections really help out a lot. and they keep the hello spam out of other threads and stuff

5.
if it doesnt already do so, and we just dont know about it, i would like reputation to actually do something, yeh its fun to spread it around but what does it do? also does the 'X is on a distinguished Road' (mousing over the green dot in your post profile) meaning anything, coz it seems like everyone is on a distiguished path even new comers

The reputation system was put in there just for that reason. To help users determin if somone has a good or bad rep, not to act as a reward system. I'm going to fine tune this system to work out a little better, and if i can think of some type of reward i'll think about adding it.

hmm not really sure i have any ideas for a reward. will keep thinking/looking though, DeMiNe) ill let you if i find/think of anything

6.
the 5 or so things on the 'portal home' page in the top left corner that dont work either need to be deleted, or be made to work, esp the gallery and downloads

Will do.

lot of requests for the galleries and downloads esp from me seeing as it will make finding my fonts easier, any idea when they will be up and running

7.
a gallery thats full of screenshots from all the diablo series games, and a subsection of submitted char builds with pics, oh and a gallery/subsection for non diablo related pics

THis can be done by You or other members once i get that gallery up and running.

same as above really

8.
instead of just 1 top poster, show top posters, maybe 5 or so, currently one would have to go the the members list, then clicks posts to see this info,

Maybe. Depends on if i get time to implement it.

it is nice to see more than one top poster, i feel so lonely at the top lol

9.
if you change the colour/font of your posts, it should stay as the colour you choose instead of reverting back to the default

Hell no. You know how many morons would run around with a black font on a black background?

i see your point but it is a little annoying if you like to post with red text, having to change it everytime

10.
also those 4 spinning stars in the post profile, do they mean anything, i think newer member should have less, and older members should have more, i dont know maybe 1 star for every 250 posts or something like that

Heh... Thats actually totally broken right now and is most likely going to be gotten rid of.

ok, still something similar to what it was suppose to do would be ok (if you can get it to work)

11.
your mouse icon should be a wepon of sorts (sword or axe) from d2, or prehaps the classic gauntlet like in diablo

Nope. It slows down on slower computers, and also sometimes isn't supported on other browsers.

stink, would have been pretty cool though

12.
a link on the home page diectly to the information in the first post in the Silversurfnstudism post
http://www.diablo3.com/forums/showthread.php?t=540 it is important people learn who Lord God Silver is

And i should also link to a post about how sexy I am..

why not, still as i said before, it is important for people to know who Lord God Silver is

13.
if the new names i suggested are rejected, still have a link that says how many posts are required for each level JNR member, member SNR member (people keep asking) or at least have in the FAQ

Read my reply to your names..

right, good call

14.
a link from the front page to the back story of diablo 1 and 2
i am sick of posting that the prime evils can all exist without their soulstones, baals soulstone is smashed, and the other crap that people should know, and any other point from the storyline that has a difinite answer, eg tal rasha is dead, warrior/rogue/sorcerer from diablo are all dead

Want to write me a full story and i'll put that up?

working on it, it is a little bigger than a PM message, i might have to make it a post that no one but senior staff or higher can edit, then you can put a link to it from the portal home

15.
not really sure if this can be done, but would be nice, to have the diablo 2 soundtrack play in the background of this site, and of course you can turn it off if you want

Again, for compatability, and bandwidth costs, im going to have to say no to this.

yeh i see your point would have been cool though

16.
Not sure if its just me, but the 'contact us' page at the bottom of the home page doesnt work, it really should

It does work, i just ignore most of the emails that are sent from it now. You have no idea how many "WHEN R D3 COM OUT!>!>!?" and "U NEED TO PUT TIS IN D3 BLIZARD!!!" emails i get per day. If you really need to talk to me, just PM me.

very good point, well all i got was an error message, maybe it could be changed so it desplays admin usernames or something

17.
not sure if it exists, a link from the home page detailing how to submit pics in posts, create signatures, put a pic under your accountname in your post profile (i get tired of people asking), or alternatively put this info in the FAQ

Make one, and i'll link to it.

i had the screenshots for this one but lost them, i just make new ones.

18.
not sure how successful this would be, but some kind of insentive to stay active, other websites have points that count towards downloads you cant get anywhere else, its really annoying to see that out of the 2000 accounts on 500 are active and around 20 or so of that 500 post on a regular basis, now i know people can post everyday like some of us can, but it does seem like a waste to create an account then never use it.

I'm going to talk to umaro about an adsence profit sharing system for active posters. This is completely up to him though.

yeh some insentive i think is needed. it does seem like a lot of people make an account then never use it

19.
also it seems a lot of people are quite fond of the idea of Sliversurfnstud and i (elfen lied) to be made administrators, we seem to know our stuff (but thats your guys call).

I'm fond of the idea as well. Let me talk to umaro first though. If everything works out, I'll start you out as senor mods first, then be promoted based on how well you do.

cool, and i also think you guys made a good call with the people you guys promted to moderators

20.
the ability to merge 2 of your posts together, it should be an option not automatic like on some sites

There allready is. A moderator has to do it though to ensure no conflicts are going to happen.

i just thought of it looking at a lot of posts by people (mostly at the time), and thinking why dont they just merge their posts together, thats 1 person merging 2 or more of their own posts in a thread together not other peoples posts), some websites have that 'will merge posts - doublepost thing'

21.
newcomers to this site, should either be automatically or manually(by someone) PMed a 'hello welcome to this site' message, the should include a quick rundown of the posting rules (the important ones) and the age old 'we hope you enjoy your time here' line

Sounds like a good idea to me. Write up a PM and send it to me, and i'll get this in place.

done, well almost, i sent you a copy it just needed a little padding in the middle

22.
somewhere on this site, there needs to be these rules;
-if you view a poll vote
-dont reply to a poll you havent voted in
-dont spam in polls and surveys
-stay on topic in polls and surveys
-and do try to stay on topic

The first 2 i don't agree with. Thats like saying "If you live in this town you HAVE to vote for the mayer. If you don't then shut the hell up". I dont want to run a forum like that.

i can see your point but it is annoying when you are trying to have a poll, and you see that the view number more than triples the reply number, and you sit there thinking, if people take the time to view the poll, the least they could do it vote. 2000 accounts, 20 votes. but its like 356 views, pretty shocking

23.
a link somewhere to the diablo font and other cool fonts
http://www.diablo3.com/forums/showthread.php?t=564

The perfect thing to add to our upcoming downloads page.

cool just waiting on the page to be up and running, few more fonts since i first posted these suggestions, does get a little frustrating searching the fonts tread to find them

23.
change the post profile
currently it looks like this

Elfen Lied
Senior Member

i suggest it look like this now

Title Elfen Lied(with new names)
Paladin (with new Names)
Administrator (if it applies)


I guess i can do something like this.. I'll get the user titles up first.

well the titles part is easy, trying to get the bit that comes before the username is harder, infact i dont think it can be done, which is why i was forced to change my post names. and trying to get staff rank and post name to show up is a little hard too. might take another look at it sometime when i have more time.

was also thinking of implementing the Silversurfnstudism titles if i get time

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what about.....


Wolfs---We only live for Silver

gesh some one thinks highly of them self lol... :rolleyes:

lol i'm sure they thank you already lol

Not our whole life though. One of the really fun parts yes, but not the whole thing.

If you've learned one thing from building up your level 73 character's skill set it should be that balance is important. Grasshoppa.

I am just a wanderer passing by ignore me *drag sword*

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