Keep saying it was fraud mods, cmon, pls continue, it makes my day, im in rly bad mood (my hamster died) and this cheers me up.
Where did Molster ever state he didn't think it was real? My opinion on the situation doesn't reflect the whole staff.
Please don't post just looking for an argument.
My bad, redirecting post to you. To me, you resemble blindfolded fan-boy who cant handle thr truth. Similiar to athene (or kriperian, whatever) fans, repeating how pro he is, how he manages to make all world records etc... cloging their ears yelling "nanananannanan" when somebody points out those ppl actualy did nothing and they have their own legions of servant players to do the hard work for them...
ps at least im not swearing
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Rencol - Diablo fan since 1996 and walking encyclopedia of Diablo lore.
Do you feel better getting that out of your system?
Anyways I'm not a fan of anyone in particular, I just see some things that look suspicious and that's enough to make me wonder.
Not particulary, no.
I just dont understand how can someone still think it wasnt real Jay. (btw i rly enjoyed killing him in developers hell, actualy shouting die die die for what you have done to my favourite brand) after seeing that video.
I get it you dont believe when someone just claims "I have been to his acc and its genuine"
I get it you are sceptical to screanshots, they can be easily photoshoped.
But i dont get how you can still think that after seeing a video.
And to that picture and name changing - you know ppl actualy DO change their picture or facebook name for the sake of fun and it was just a coincidence, doesnt make it proof of trolling.
And now one possible explanation you propably havent thoght off yet - that Jay changed his picture and name and made additional stupid comments to make it look like a troll, hoping to get out of it easily without facing consequences. "It wasnt me, it was troll, do not flame and fire me noooo"
edit: going to bed, goodnight
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Rencol - Diablo fan since 1996 and walking encyclopedia of Diablo lore.
Well I suppose anything is possible. It's more for me the "Jay Wilson Eats TooMuch" guy that makes it suspicious, without that then yeah I'd have no real reason to believe it wasn't Jay Wilson. The video is hard to deny though, but I know those can be faked in quite a bit of ways, I'm pretty sure he could even change webpages to link where he wanted.
It's really just that one user who happened to have his name set as "Jay Wilson" changed his picture, and liked all the comments that makes me wonder.
I mean does it really matter though what I think? The consensus seems to be that it's real. I just don't like witch hunts and bandwagoning. If he's guilty then yeah that should have been kept private. Does it stir the pot? Yeah. Do I honestly think someone should be fired over what they say on Facebook, meh. I guess it depends on exactly what's said. It's in no way up to me though.
Jay Wilson is a dick. The people who put him in charge, left him in charge, and continue to pay him for being in charge, these are paragons of humanity. The people whose ideas Jay Wilson approves, whose suggestions Jay Wilson helps refine, and whose efforts Jay Wilson coordinates, these are also upstanding people who are (reportedly) Extremely Awesome. But Jay Wilson is a dick, and is solely responsible for everything wrong with Diablo3.
^ warning, the above post might be sacastic, or it may be from someone with not the slightest clue about what Jay Wilson's job actually involves, and how he gets to keep it. There's really no way to tell the difference.
Personally, I think this was an epic troll, because haters whose eagerness makes them dangerously credulous are just the sort of mixture of magnesium and liquid oxygen that will turn a driveby facebook prank into an internet-exploding scandal... far too rich a target to pass up.
We probably won't hear from Blizzard either way, unless the forums explode about it.
The official forums did explode about it last night. If they don't make a statement about it after last night then they're not going to I'd guess.
This..
The official forums already totally exploded, but every single thread about the topic was swiftly deleted. Users were banned and it was just a widespread bloodbath by the CMs.
Blizzard is very well known for their propensity for the social engineering of their community, and you can see their prowess in the matter right now on the D3 forums.
How can it be fake? When I clicked on Jay's post before it got taken down it went to his OFFICIAL Facebook page. You can't fake that, sorry bros.
We'll have to just take your word for it on that one I guess.
Honestly if it wasnt jay's profile he should just say it then.
Well would it really do any good? He says nothing, people say it was him, he says it wasnt him, people still say it was him, he says he did it people get the only option they want from it really.
With the patch right around the corner though they're probably more focused on that.
There's still time for some sort of statement but any outcome is him being burned at the stake. give it about a week and if we don't have a statement by then we probably won't see one.
We probably won't hear from Blizzard either way, unless the forums explode about it.
The official forums did explode about it last night. If they don't make a statement about it after last night then they're not going to I'd guess.
Not sure what good any kind of statement would do, other than spawn even more threads about how Blizzard lies, and how desperate they are to defend the Evil Wilson and blahblahblah. All the sort of things the Diablo player community loves to read about on the official forums. There's already so few threads on those forums that are actually about Diablo3, the last thing Blizzard needs is for the signal-to-noise ratio to reach new lows.
Either that or they're a fascist censor-machine that's hell-bent on Silencing The Voice Of The People.
One of those two.
Now a statement from Facebook... that'd be something I'd love to see. Right after I buy shares in tinfoil.
This..
The official forums already totally exploded, but every single thread about the topic was swiftly deleted. Users were banned and it was just a widespread bloodbath by the CMs.
Good stuff. Few thousand more permabans and the official forums might potentially become a place where people who play Diablo III can gather to discuss Diablo III. Radical idea, I know.
Wordpress and blogger.com are over that way if people want to post spittle-flecked rants. That's why they were invented.
So lets see here... Brevik does an interview, and makes some subtle jabs at D3... the current Game head (Jay Wilson) hears it, and responds with "F*** that loser"... So instantly he is a horrible piece of human excrement and deserves to be burned at the stake and the corpse shot repeatedly with a high powered rifle??
Seriously, you people hating on him have some issues. If you dislike Diablo 3, then do not play it. If you want it improved, then suggest things, or intelligently point out flaws and ask for suggestions to fix them from others in the community. Jay Wilson bashing does not change the game...
Insulting him, calling for his firing and the enormous variety of other tortures people wish upon him do nothing but make you look like a truly twisted and immature child. He made (or did not make) a remark that clearly shows anger. And do not give the whole "He works for blizzard he has to behave a certain way or we lambast him"...
You dedicate time and effort to something, you even show appreciate to those that came before you.. then have one of those that you thanked turn around and say "I was kinda happy when you failed"...tell me how much smiling would you have then? What kind word would come from your mouth... If you remarks on these forums are any indication then it would most assuredly make the wilson remark look quite kind and loving.
So stop stalking a game developer, either play the game or dont... but seriously... you are stalking... you are getting really creepy about it all to feed this hate of 1 man that has done absolutely nothing to you...
It's like this. At the end of the day, he gets in his car which he's paying for, goes to the home he's paying for, and spends time with his wife and kids, whom he pays for. Deleting a comment that could have professional reprocussions was smart; saying them wasn't. Either way, why does anybody give a rats ass about this? It's like Group A Nerds having beef with Group B Nerds.
So you are saying Jay Wilson did nothing.. just sat around eating twinkies and staring at his starbucks waiting for it to cool?
Seriously, you people are ridiculous.. He would not have the job he has, if he just sat on his butt all day. You may think in your deluded little world that he is some shiftless lazy slob that does nothing but takes all the credit but sorry, that is not reality. I personally do not care for the guy one way or the other... Just sick of you zealots trying to find any and everything you can to try and rip into a man over a dumb game.
So lets see here... Brevik does an interview, and makes some subtle jabs at D3... the current Game head (Jay Wilson) hears it, and responds with "F*** that loser"... So instantly he is a horrible piece of human excrement and deserves to be burned at the stake and the corpse shot repeatedly with a high powered rifle??
Seriously, you people hating on him have some issues. If you dislike Diablo 3, then do not play it. If you want it improved, then suggest things, or intelligently point out flaws and ask for suggestions to fix them from others in the community. Jay Wilson bashing does not change the game...
Insulting him, calling for his firing and the enormous variety of other tortures people wish upon him do nothing but make you look like a truly twisted and immature child. He made (or did not make) a remark that clearly shows anger. And do not give the whole "He works for blizzard he has to behave a certain way or we lambast him"...
You dedicate time and effort to something, you even show appreciate to those that came before you.. then have one of those that you thanked turn around and say "I was kinda happy when you failed"...tell me how much smiling would you have then? What kind word would come from your mouth... If you remarks on these forums are any indication then it would most assuredly make the wilson remark look quite kind and loving.
So stop stalking a game developer, either play the game or dont... but seriously... you are stalking... you are getting really creepy about it all to feed this hate of 1 man that has done absolutely nothing to you...
It's like this. At the end of the day, he gets in his car which he's paying for, goes to the home he's paying for, and spends time with his wife and kids, whom he pays for. Deleting a comment that could have professional reprocussions was smart; saying them wasn't. Either way, why does anybody give a rats ass about this? It's like Group A Nerds having beef with Group B Nerds.
Well yeah. There's that. Personally, I'd like to see more "fuck Tim Burton" type stuff. I've never really been a fan of people having to be 'professional' when they're off the clock. It just doesn't make sense in a social media world.
But as I alluded to before (in a trolltastic way, I admit), Jay Wilson is a lightning rod for D3 hate. He's probably the only person on the design team anyone can actually name, and it always makes people feel good when someone whose decisions they don't like says something nasty or stupid... it's the same reason why the news media is obsessed with muck-raking and gaffes.
Jay Wilson's an ordinary schmuck hired to help a bunch of people tell a bigger bunch of people how to build a game they hope people will like. I hope the poor bastard is getting danger-money on top of his current salary.
So you are saying Jay Wilson did nothing.. just sat around eating twinkies and staring at his starbucks waiting for it to cool?
Seriously, you people are ridiculous.. He would not have the job he has, if he just sat on his butt all day. You may think in your deluded little world that he is some shiftless lazy slob that does nothing but takes all the credit but sorry, that is not reality. I personally do not care for the guy one way or the other... Just sick of you zealots trying to find any and everything you can to try and rip into a man over a dumb game.
Just grow up
"Dumb game" Oh the irony and bad trolling. Just stop before we just feel sorry for you instead of laughing.
So you are saying Jay Wilson did nothing.. just sat around eating twinkies and staring at his starbucks waiting for it to cool?
Seriously, you people are ridiculous.. He would not have the job he has, if he just sat on his butt all day. You may think in your deluded little world that he is some shiftless lazy slob that does nothing but takes all the credit but sorry, that is not reality. I personally do not care for the guy one way or the other... Just sick of you zealots trying to find any and everything you can to try and rip into a man over a dumb game.
Just grow up
"Dumb game" Oh the irony and bad trolling. Just stop before we just feel sorry for you instead of laughing.
Yes, dumb game... as in not a life altering experience that should cause such hate for a human being. If you can become so hateful just because some one made a game that was not to your exact specifications then you have the problems, not them.
There is no trolling, or irony in my statement. There is utter stupidity in your stance that it is acceptable to verbally attack a man for making a game you did not like, for insulting and degrading a person just cause the game he made was not the game you wanted...
And seriously, if anyone is trolling it would be you... 7 posts, and all designed to inflame and annoy...
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My bad, redirecting post to you. To me, you resemble blindfolded fan-boy who cant handle thr truth. Similiar to athene (or kriperian, whatever) fans, repeating how pro he is, how he manages to make all world records etc... cloging their ears yelling "nanananannanan" when somebody points out those ppl actualy did nothing and they have their own legions of servant players to do the hard work for them...
ps at least im not swearing
Anyways I'm not a fan of anyone in particular, I just see some things that look suspicious and that's enough to make me wonder.
Not particulary, no.
I just dont understand how can someone still think it wasnt real Jay. (btw i rly enjoyed killing him in developers hell, actualy shouting die die die for what you have done to my favourite brand) after seeing that video.
I get it you dont believe when someone just claims "I have been to his acc and its genuine"
I get it you are sceptical to screanshots, they can be easily photoshoped.
But i dont get how you can still think that after seeing a video.
And to that picture and name changing - you know ppl actualy DO change their picture or facebook name for the sake of fun and it was just a coincidence, doesnt make it proof of trolling.
And now one possible explanation you propably havent thoght off yet - that Jay changed his picture and name and made additional stupid comments to make it look like a troll, hoping to get out of it easily without facing consequences. "It wasnt me, it was troll, do not flame and fire me noooo"
edit: going to bed, goodnight
It's really just that one user who happened to have his name set as "Jay Wilson" changed his picture, and liked all the comments that makes me wonder.
I mean does it really matter though what I think? The consensus seems to be that it's real. I just don't like witch hunts and bandwagoning. If he's guilty then yeah that should have been kept private. Does it stir the pot? Yeah. Do I honestly think someone should be fired over what they say on Facebook, meh. I guess it depends on exactly what's said. It's in no way up to me though.
^ warning, the above post might be sacastic, or it may be from someone with not the slightest clue about what Jay Wilson's job actually involves, and how he gets to keep it. There's really no way to tell the difference.
Personally, I think this was an epic troll, because haters whose eagerness makes them dangerously credulous are just the sort of mixture of magnesium and liquid oxygen that will turn a driveby facebook prank into an internet-exploding scandal... far too rich a target to pass up.
The official forums did explode about it last night. If they don't make a statement about it after last night then they're not going to I'd guess.
This..
The official forums already totally exploded, but every single thread about the topic was swiftly deleted. Users were banned and it was just a widespread bloodbath by the CMs.
Blizzard is very well known for their propensity for the social engineering of their community, and you can see their prowess in the matter right now on the D3 forums.
Well would it really do any good? He says nothing, people say it was him, he says it wasnt him, people still say it was him, he says he did it people get the only option they want from it really.
With the patch right around the corner though they're probably more focused on that.
There's still time for some sort of statement but any outcome is him being burned at the stake. give it about a week and if we don't have a statement by then we probably won't see one.
Not sure what good any kind of statement would do, other than spawn even more threads about how Blizzard lies, and how desperate they are to defend the Evil Wilson and blahblahblah. All the sort of things the Diablo player community loves to read about on the official forums. There's already so few threads on those forums that are actually about Diablo3, the last thing Blizzard needs is for the signal-to-noise ratio to reach new lows.
Either that or they're a fascist censor-machine that's hell-bent on Silencing The Voice Of The People.
One of those two.
Now a statement from Facebook... that'd be something I'd love to see. Right after I buy shares in tinfoil.
Good stuff. Few thousand more permabans and the official forums might potentially become a place where people who play Diablo III can gather to discuss Diablo III. Radical idea, I know.
Wordpress and blogger.com are over that way if people want to post spittle-flecked rants. That's why they were invented.
The only statement you're going to get from Facebook is "plx buy our awesome stock."
Seriously, you people hating on him have some issues. If you dislike Diablo 3, then do not play it. If you want it improved, then suggest things, or intelligently point out flaws and ask for suggestions to fix them from others in the community. Jay Wilson bashing does not change the game...
Insulting him, calling for his firing and the enormous variety of other tortures people wish upon him do nothing but make you look like a truly twisted and immature child. He made (or did not make) a remark that clearly shows anger. And do not give the whole "He works for blizzard he has to behave a certain way or we lambast him"...
You dedicate time and effort to something, you even show appreciate to those that came before you.. then have one of those that you thanked turn around and say "I was kinda happy when you failed"...tell me how much smiling would you have then? What kind word would come from your mouth... If you remarks on these forums are any indication then it would most assuredly make the wilson remark look quite kind and loving.
So stop stalking a game developer, either play the game or dont... but seriously... you are stalking... you are getting really creepy about it all to feed this hate of 1 man that has done absolutely nothing to you...
"no thanks. If I want something worthless, I'll buy a copy of Hellgate."
... aaaaand we're back on topic.
Seriously, you people are ridiculous.. He would not have the job he has, if he just sat on his butt all day. You may think in your deluded little world that he is some shiftless lazy slob that does nothing but takes all the credit but sorry, that is not reality. I personally do not care for the guy one way or the other... Just sick of you zealots trying to find any and everything you can to try and rip into a man over a dumb game.
Just grow up
I know, right?
Well yeah. There's that. Personally, I'd like to see more "fuck Tim Burton" type stuff. I've never really been a fan of people having to be 'professional' when they're off the clock. It just doesn't make sense in a social media world.
But as I alluded to before (in a trolltastic way, I admit), Jay Wilson is a lightning rod for D3 hate. He's probably the only person on the design team anyone can actually name, and it always makes people feel good when someone whose decisions they don't like says something nasty or stupid... it's the same reason why the news media is obsessed with muck-raking and gaffes.
Jay Wilson's an ordinary schmuck hired to help a bunch of people tell a bigger bunch of people how to build a game they hope people will like. I hope the poor bastard is getting danger-money on top of his current salary.
Yes, dumb game... as in not a life altering experience that should cause such hate for a human being. If you can become so hateful just because some one made a game that was not to your exact specifications then you have the problems, not them.
There is no trolling, or irony in my statement. There is utter stupidity in your stance that it is acceptable to verbally attack a man for making a game you did not like, for insulting and degrading a person just cause the game he made was not the game you wanted...
And seriously, if anyone is trolling it would be you... 7 posts, and all designed to inflame and annoy...