Ok, gonna go open the comp and see what damage I can do to the gears..,
WTF!!!
Wierd... Never saw this before... Apparently the fan blows air into a tube that goes to the proccessor... Idk, I haven't ever seen something like this before... I'll clean what I can but... Idk...
Indeed. Anyway, I cleaned all the dust out from between the fan and the tube. (There was alot...) Hope that helps... I'll get on and download that fan speed/tempature scanner thing. Hope it's fixed this time...
Btw, I can't get to the gears, it's a self-contained fan.
Those ducts are a very common thing nowadays (although moreso for PCs, one wouldn't think there's much space to do something like that on a laptop).
No offense to you guys, but many people here are really not being very useful... they just seemed to be compelled to give their opinion on the situation even though they may have no good knowledge of the problem.
Random shutdowns are generally due to power supply problems or computer heat problems. For both of these, you need to have proper diagnosis done, which is a little more complicated than just opening something up and looking around.
Heat-wise, you just need to monitor the temperature of whatever you can. Most likely it's just the CPU, which usually have temperature sensors built in them, so it's just a matter of looking at the information via special software or the BIOS screen (special software is much better, since you can test under load). The problems could be numerous... the CPU could just be too hot for the heatsink/fans at normal operation (either because of bad design, or because it wasn't designed for extended periods of operation, or changed over time), a fan could be malfunctioning, or something could be obstructing flow. Ensure you have good space around where there are holes for fans in the computer, by using a stand, or whatever. You can also clean it, as been said, but that's not too likely of a problem. Malfunctioning fans aren't too hard to diagnose, since they are either noisy or aren't spinning. Usually even when they are noisy, they are still working to near, or full potential, just means they will fail soon. A replacement fan would not cost 30-70$. While the manufacteurer may have been annoying and made it require a proprietary fan, it would still likely be under 30$. If it wasn't proprietary, I don't see why it would, it's possible to get a fan for 3$ or more.
Oh, and on a side-note, fans don't have gears... they run on bearings, which are inaccessible, and generally don't get anything inside. Hairs or something could in theory tangle the blades, but I haven't really heard of that as a problem.
Another solution to the heat problem would be to underclock the CPU (assuming that's what's overheating), so that it doesn't run as hot. This solution is assuming ventilation isn't the problem though, obviously.
Power problem would be really hard to diagnose for an average person... as far as I know it would be required to be examined by a computer technician with proper tools. Generally speaking, I would not consider it to be a good buy. Sometimes it doesn't cost much, or anything, for that to be done though... only the actual repair, in which case you have nothing to loose. Even if it wasn't a power issue, you would learn what it is.
If it's still covered by warranty you can try that, but I assume you wouldn't be here if it was.
Those ducts are a very common thing nowadays (although moreso for PCs, one wouldn't think there's much space to do something like that on a laptop).
No offense to you guys, but many people here are really not being very useful... they just seemed to be compelled to give their opinion on the situation even though they may have no good knowledge of the problem.
Random shutdowns are generally due to power supply problems or computer heat problems. For both of these, you need to have proper diagnosis done, which is a little more complicated than just opening something up and looking around.
Heat-wise, you just need to monitor the temperature of whatever you can. Most likely it's just the CPU, which usually have temperature sensors built in them, so it's just a matter of looking at the information via special software or the BIOS screen (special software is much better, since you can test under load). The problems could be numerous... the CPU could just be too hot for the heatsink/fans at normal operation (either because of bad design, or because it wasn't designed for extended periods of operation, or changed over time), a fan could be malfunctioning, or something could be obstructing flow. Ensure you have good space around where there are holes for fans in the computer, by using a stand, or whatever. You can also clean it, as been said, but that's not too likely of a problem. Malfunctioning fans aren't too hard to diagnose, since they are either noisy or aren't spinning. Usually even when they are noisy, they are still working to near, or full potential, just means they will fail soon. A replacement fan would not cost 30-70$. While the manufacteurer may have been annoying and made it require a proprietary fan, it would still likely be under 30$. If it wasn't proprietary, I don't see why it would, it's possible to get a fan for 3$ or more.
Oh, and on a side-note, fans don't have gears... they run on bearings, which are inaccessible, and generally don't get anything inside. Hairs or something could in theory tangle the blades, but I haven't really heard of that as a problem.
Power problem would be really hard to diagnose for an average person... as far as I know it would be required to be examined by a computer technician with proper tools. Generally speaking, I would not consider it to be a good buy. Sometimes it doesn't cost much, or anything, for that to be done though... only the actual repair, in which case you have nothing to loose. Even if it wasn't a power issue, you would learn what it is.
If it's still covered by warranty you can try that, but I assume you wouldn't be here if it was.
basically, you just repeated what everyone has been saying in this thread.
and if you didnt know, he had another thread about this where he debunked guesses on power supply, upon others.
Like Mijn said, you have repeated everything has been stated on this thread
AS for your prices comment, it depends on what type of fan you are buying and where, as I have stated I haven't been to Circuit City in a while since it closed down in Temecula
Finally someone who isn't giving silly advice. I wouldn't bother with the thread though. He'd rather assume it's a fan issue without properly diagnosing it.
Finally someone who isn't giving silly advice. I wouldn't bother with the thread though. He'd rather assume it's a fan issue without properly diagnosing it.
Anyways, you can waste money, it's not mine.
First off the fan needs replaced anyway. Second, if you can help then help, if you can't help then ignore this thread.
I've given more helpful advice than anyone else in these threads. You're just really dense in who you ask for advice. You should ONLY stick to
Goodguy
Freak of Nature
Xapti
Me
However, you still havn't diagnosed the issue properly. Have you tested the cpu temperatures? No. Have you ran any hard drive diagnostic tests? No. Have you checked any system logs? No. Have you checked for an updated BIOS driver? No.
I honestly don't care at all if you run off and waste your money. If it just so happens a better cooling system fixes the issue, great! But, it would be a wiser decision to analyze the issue better before making any financial decisions.
Right, I am on my computer now. Hopefully it will work right untill I get a new fan. I'll also check that heat scanner program. (Thankyou for posting that by the way.)
And Spanish, seriously, if you're just going to insult me and junk, just don't even post.
Seriously dude. I'm trying to help. I'm just advising you to research the issue a bit more before spending money. Whatever, if you want to run out and throw money away, best of luck to you sir.
So you suggest I let the fan die before buying a new one? You yourself said that Xapti is a good source, and he said, and I quote, "Malfunctioning fans aren't too hard to diagnose, since they are either noisy or aren't spinning."
Edit: No, forget it, I am not fighting in this thread. I don't want it closed with my comp still messed up. Xapti, is there any way to tell what kind of fan you are using?
So you suggest I let the fan die before buying a new one? You yourself said that Xapti is a good source, and he said, and I quote, "Malfunctioning fans aren't too hard to diagnose, since they are either noisy or aren't spinning."
No that's not what I'm suggesting. You act like your fan is going to die tonight or tomorrow. It sounds like you've physically troubleshooted the laptop and concluded that the fan sounds like it's dying. Then sure, based off of your own assessment, you need to get a new fan..
Before you noted that your fan sounded like it was having problems, you sounded determined to replace the fan anyways, assuming it would resolve your issue. At that point, I'm just recommending there are several things you could try to help pinpoint your problem.
Just like in the previous thread you started asking about HDD prices and options. Which, you did not diagnose anything to determine if it was a HDD. Anyways, lots of blah blah from my side. I'm just, in a more abrupt way recommending things for you to try out first.
WTF!!!
Wierd... Never saw this before... Apparently the fan blows air into a tube that goes to the proccessor... Idk, I haven't ever seen something like this before... I'll clean what I can but... Idk...
Acer...
C133n teh fanz0rz.
Btw, I can't get to the gears, it's a self-contained fan.
No offense to you guys, but many people here are really not being very useful... they just seemed to be compelled to give their opinion on the situation even though they may have no good knowledge of the problem.
Random shutdowns are generally due to power supply problems or computer heat problems. For both of these, you need to have proper diagnosis done, which is a little more complicated than just opening something up and looking around.
Heat-wise, you just need to monitor the temperature of whatever you can. Most likely it's just the CPU, which usually have temperature sensors built in them, so it's just a matter of looking at the information via special software or the BIOS screen (special software is much better, since you can test under load). The problems could be numerous... the CPU could just be too hot for the heatsink/fans at normal operation (either because of bad design, or because it wasn't designed for extended periods of operation, or changed over time), a fan could be malfunctioning, or something could be obstructing flow. Ensure you have good space around where there are holes for fans in the computer, by using a stand, or whatever. You can also clean it, as been said, but that's not too likely of a problem. Malfunctioning fans aren't too hard to diagnose, since they are either noisy or aren't spinning. Usually even when they are noisy, they are still working to near, or full potential, just means they will fail soon. A replacement fan would not cost 30-70$. While the manufacteurer may have been annoying and made it require a proprietary fan, it would still likely be under 30$. If it wasn't proprietary, I don't see why it would, it's possible to get a fan for 3$ or more.
Oh, and on a side-note, fans don't have gears... they run on bearings, which are inaccessible, and generally don't get anything inside. Hairs or something could in theory tangle the blades, but I haven't really heard of that as a problem.
Another solution to the heat problem would be to underclock the CPU (assuming that's what's overheating), so that it doesn't run as hot. This solution is assuming ventilation isn't the problem though, obviously.
Power problem would be really hard to diagnose for an average person... as far as I know it would be required to be examined by a computer technician with proper tools. Generally speaking, I would not consider it to be a good buy. Sometimes it doesn't cost much, or anything, for that to be done though... only the actual repair, in which case you have nothing to loose. Even if it wasn't a power issue, you would learn what it is.
If it's still covered by warranty you can try that, but I assume you wouldn't be here if it was.
basically, you just repeated what everyone has been saying in this thread.
and if you didnt know, he had another thread about this where he debunked guesses on power supply, upon others.
(Glad to hear that fans arn't 200 though. Heh...)
AS for your prices comment, it depends on what type of fan you are buying and where, as I have stated I haven't been to Circuit City in a while since it closed down in Temecula
Finally someone who isn't giving silly advice. I wouldn't bother with the thread though. He'd rather assume it's a fan issue without properly diagnosing it.
Anyways, you can waste money, it's not mine.
First off the fan needs replaced anyway. Second, if you can help then help, if you can't help then ignore this thread.
Goodguy
Freak of Nature
Xapti
Me
However, you still havn't diagnosed the issue properly. Have you tested the cpu temperatures? No. Have you ran any hard drive diagnostic tests? No. Have you checked any system logs? No. Have you checked for an updated BIOS driver? No.
I honestly don't care at all if you run off and waste your money. If it just so happens a better cooling system fixes the issue, great! But, it would be a wiser decision to analyze the issue better before making any financial decisions.
And Spanish, seriously, if you're just going to insult me and junk, just don't even post.
Edit: No, forget it, I am not fighting in this thread. I don't want it closed with my comp still messed up. Xapti, is there any way to tell what kind of fan you are using?
Before you noted that your fan sounded like it was having problems, you sounded determined to replace the fan anyways, assuming it would resolve your issue. At that point, I'm just recommending there are several things you could try to help pinpoint your problem.
Just like in the previous thread you started asking about HDD prices and options. Which, you did not diagnose anything to determine if it was a HDD. Anyways, lots of blah blah from my side. I'm just, in a more abrupt way recommending things for you to try out first.
I'm not arguing with you. Just trying to help.
Anyway, back on subject, anyone know of a good tempature scanner? The one I just downloaded from the link way at the beginning doesn't run...
http://www.daileyint.com/hmdpc/overheat.htm
Weird, that link works fine for me. Curious -- What's the make and model of your laptop?
I think Acer only makes laptops...
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AS5610-2273, AS5610-4075, AS5610-4491, 5610Z