Oh gosh it is not unlimited resources. I'm constantly riding 0 resources all game long. You got to get the fact that big professional competitions play blizzard maps only, out of your head. That's how the game was meant to be played when blizzard designed the game. Those maps are going to be the standard for competitions. It shouldn't mean that 'Fastest Map Possible' isn't a legitable map, with legitable skill required. In standard maps, sure you have time to run 4 marines around a lurker and kill it. People are like wow. This guy just killed a lurker with 4 marines, good micro skills. In fastest the microing goes unoticed due to the large quantity of units covering the map. It's still there, and still necessary to be good at the game.
Overall the point is. It takes alot of experience and commitment to be good at fastest. It might not seem that way to someone who hasn't put that much time into the map. Which I understand why you would think that way. I just hear, "Fastest map is for noobs" far too often. I just highly disagree with the statement.
"if u played fastest possible map ud realize u never run outta money till u get like 9999999999999999 minerals"
That kinda sounded like you are some of those players who can't play anything, be it fastest, UMS, 1v1, or 2v2, or BGH.Yea I keep hearing people talking about it...
Uhhh I never made that comment. Are you referring to something else? You misinterpreted a post obviously. I made the "unlimited minerals" comment to mock your description of how fastest is.
People can definitely not peak out their skill level earlier on a fastest map. I've been playing the game alot longer than most people and I'm still evolving. I've never downloaded PP to care about my APM. Yes I know all the hardcore asians, who spend their savings account becoming professional SC players do care about that. You just havn't played fastest enough to realize how much micro and macro is required. You just need to play an expert on fastest. Then you'll realize how much skill is required.
I don't even play blizz maps except that 1v1 I did against you. And who won? *coughs*. Just don't even degrade fastest, you don't play it and you have NO idea what is required to be good at it. I can't even argue with something you have no experience with. You might as well be saying "FASTEST SUCKS!!!!!!!".
There is currently a zerg exploit that gives the user 500 minerals per larva cancelled. I'd think blizzard would have patched it by now considering it's been around for several months. I couldn't even begin to imagine how unfair that exploit is on a normal blizz map. Has anyone noticed it?
I didn't notice. If anyone plays Fastest, UMS, or BGH, it's usually for pure fun. According to Lord of Flames on Gosugamers, playing these types of maps DAMAGES regular melee 1v1 skill.
Well vice versa as well. If I play LT for too long, I lose alot of my skill level on the fastest maps. Just because you spend all of your time conversing with blizz map players, doesn't mean you should disregard fastest players as having skill. I've devoted so much of my time into fastest maps, and to have someone say, "those aren't REAL sc players" is rather offensive. Because I know I'm skillful, and I know I'm good... I have equal respect for pro LT players as I do pro fastest players. Both require quite a bit of skill to do well.
If you don't find fastest maps engaging or interesting. Fine, that is your preference and opinion. Put any pro LT player on a fastest map against me and they wouldn't really look that pro. If it's such an easy concept. Unlimited minerals - Mass units. Then why can one person be so much better than another.
I don't really know these "gosugamers" that you keep referencing. Nor does it really matter. One persons opinion is just as good as another. I know sites where you wouldn't find a blizz map in sight. It's all fastest.
The only imbalances that I would agree with is templar storms and the narrow passages. One storm can wipe out all 50-75 miners. It's a rather cheap technique to use. But every one uses it so you just have to get use to it. As far as narrow passages, a newb can put a few cannons at the choke of his base and create a headache for any skilled-player.
First of all, fastest is imbalanced. Real SC players don't play fastest. Like, AT ALL. It harms 1v1 skill playing fastest and or UMS.
Second of all, while there is an infinite amount of minerals, if I get more expoes than he does, I can make more units faster. So I still win. In fact, I was playing some guy who camped on fastest and I won, just expanded all over the map
But, yea, fastest doesn't count. In real games, resources are limited.
How ignorant of you to disregard fastest players as legitimate players. A skill set is required. Just not the one you're use to. I gurantee the skill level between me and you on a fastest game is miles apart. Do not degrade something, just because you are not good at it. What imbalance are you referring to? Real SC players DO play fastest maps.
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Overall the point is. It takes alot of experience and commitment to be good at fastest. It might not seem that way to someone who hasn't put that much time into the map. Which I understand why you would think that way. I just hear, "Fastest map is for noobs" far too often. I just highly disagree with the statement.
Uhhh I never made that comment. Are you referring to something else? You misinterpreted a post obviously. I made the "unlimited minerals" comment to mock your description of how fastest is.
People can definitely not peak out their skill level earlier on a fastest map. I've been playing the game alot longer than most people and I'm still evolving. I've never downloaded PP to care about my APM. Yes I know all the hardcore asians, who spend their savings account becoming professional SC players do care about that. You just havn't played fastest enough to realize how much micro and macro is required. You just need to play an expert on fastest. Then you'll realize how much skill is required.
I don't even play blizz maps except that 1v1 I did against you. And who won? *coughs*. Just don't even degrade fastest, you don't play it and you have NO idea what is required to be good at it. I can't even argue with something you have no experience with. You might as well be saying "FASTEST SUCKS!!!!!!!".
Well vice versa as well. If I play LT for too long, I lose alot of my skill level on the fastest maps. Just because you spend all of your time conversing with blizz map players, doesn't mean you should disregard fastest players as having skill. I've devoted so much of my time into fastest maps, and to have someone say, "those aren't REAL sc players" is rather offensive. Because I know I'm skillful, and I know I'm good... I have equal respect for pro LT players as I do pro fastest players. Both require quite a bit of skill to do well.
If you don't find fastest maps engaging or interesting. Fine, that is your preference and opinion. Put any pro LT player on a fastest map against me and they wouldn't really look that pro. If it's such an easy concept. Unlimited minerals - Mass units. Then why can one person be so much better than another.
I don't really know these "gosugamers" that you keep referencing. Nor does it really matter. One persons opinion is just as good as another. I know sites where you wouldn't find a blizz map in sight. It's all fastest.
The only imbalances that I would agree with is templar storms and the narrow passages. One storm can wipe out all 50-75 miners. It's a rather cheap technique to use. But every one uses it so you just have to get use to it. As far as narrow passages, a newb can put a few cannons at the choke of his base and create a headache for any skilled-player.
I like my games a little more fast paced.
How ignorant of you to disregard fastest players as legitimate players. A skill set is required. Just not the one you're use to. I gurantee the skill level between me and you on a fastest game is miles apart. Do not degrade something, just because you are not good at it. What imbalance are you referring to? Real SC players DO play fastest maps.