+Sorc MF'ed better then all the classes. The sorceress was the premier MF class. So, by your definition the Sorc is better then the Paladin, Amazon, Assassin, etc as well.
True, but at least the Pally owns PvP in PvP equally with Sin, and the Zon owns PvM and Bosses. So my point wasn't only that the sorc was better then everyone but everyone else has a specific strength.
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-Assassin and Pally PK/PvP 1000X better than a necro.
+That is your opinion. Yes, the Paladin is OP in PvP, but in the proper hands any class can defeat any class, and in the not-so-proper hands, any class can be defeated by any class. So this point is mute.
Yeah, but if you take two of the same skill duelers and give one of them the OP Pally, there is no reason he should lose.
It's kinda obvious if you put an uber pally in the hands of an idiot he will lose, it doesn't need to be confirmed by anyone. So this is mute as well.
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-Javazons and Hammerdins solo Hell and bosses 100000X better than a necro.
+Actually the Javazon has problems in Hell due to Light Immunes, whereas the Necromancer's bone skills are just like the Hammerdin's hammers, IE they have no immunes. Now, if your refering to the weapons that remove immunities, then you must be saying that all classes are equal. Otherwise the Paladin is on equal footing as the Necromancer.
++Actually the Javazon's secondary skill of Jab is more then enough to deal with any Lightning Immunes, one jab is all you need unless you hit a Lightning Immune Unique Monster. Plus with her survivability she is much more durable than a Necro.
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-Ive heard of Hammerdins soloing Ubers, not necros..
+Actually Smitadens are better then Hammerdins in Ubers. And there are builds for Necromancers for defeating Ubers, just like there are builds for Sorceresses, Amazons, Druids, Barbarians, and Assassins. So this point is mute.
++Actually there are thousands of builds for everything, but it doesn't mean that they are actually successful at doing it. Let me know when you see a Druid/Assassin/Barbarian solo ubers in Hardcore, I just haven't seen that yet. I don't mean they don't exist, just never seen it, maybe you would enlighten me. :cool:
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-Oh yeah, game lagging, Necro really does it 1000 X better than everyone else. I do admit.
+Summonmancers are not Bonemancers. Summonmancers are not Poisonmancers. And again, bonemancers cause just as much lag as Hammerdins.
True, but pure bonemancers struggle in soloing, so If you do make one, youll probably need to be rushed. The Hammerdin won't. However I do admit that they won't lag the game.
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Don't get me wrong, I have nothing against Hammerdins, or any class for that matter. But it's silly to use stereotypes to dismiss a class.
I do admit some of my points are stereotypes, (lag) but you can't dismiss that some aren't and the Necro does lack a specific area of expertise.
Not trying to be right, just arguing my point on why I don't admire the char, but as you said, to each his own opinion. I just like debating mine, and I do respect yours.
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Edit- Hmmm...you seem to have access to some secret poll about who finds necro to be best char or not. Will you share the results?
Well if you like polls so much, why don't you make one out of this thread. It will probably equate to 99%. But before you say" well, that doesn't mean everyone!" Let me remind you that polls never encompass everyone.
Otherwise, just take my post as an exaggeration.
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Why oh why do so many people like necro when he's so bad? We wonders preciousss...we wonders...
Seems some people misunderstood my post, let me quote myself
Not that I'm a necro hater either..I thought he was a great character.
Although sometimes a pissoff lagger, he was what I considered an original concept.
The thing is that he wasn't nearly as good as other chars at doing the same shit.
So I don't recall seing the phrase, he is bad in there. Not as good as someone else doesn't equate to bad. Otherwise that would be like saying every NBA player sucks at Basketball since they aren't as good as M.J.
Like I said before, if summoning mindless skeletons and kicking back while they have fun, blowing corpses in empty rooms and making walls of bone is your thing... Then by all means.
I can honestly say that the necro is the only character I ever fell asleep on while playing. Summoner is way too easy, when your summons get powerfull, you don't even have to dodge or do anything really. Just kinda walk through every room and watch the action unfold.
Kinda like watching someone else play a game...
The only time you are proactive, is when you hit a phys immune in Hell Difficulty. Then you actually require a right click to curse him.
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*prepares his flamethrower as he waits for necro haters*:P
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I don't know which wave of necro haters you guys are expecting...Since 99 percent of all people on this site are all necro groupies.:facepalm:
Not that I'm a necro hater either..I thought he was a great character.
Although sometimes a pissoff lagger, he was what I considered an original concept.
The thing is that he wasn't nearly as good as other chars at doing the same shit.
Sorc MFed 1000X better than a necro.
Assassin and Pally PK/PvP 1000X better than a necro.
Javazons and Hammerdins solo Hell and bosses 100000X better than a necro. Ive heard of Hammerdins soloing Ubers, not necros..
Soooo. What's left...?
Oh yeah, game lagging, Necro really does it 1000 X better than everyone else. I do admit.
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I dont get how so many people became Necromancer Nut Huggers.
Every time I log on to Diablofans.com, all I seem to be reading about
are people crying over the fact that the barb got the comeback spot
over the game lagging Necromancer.
I just don't think he was that good. The only way he ever did anything
relevant was by spamming homing missiles (Bone Spirit) or by using the
overpowered teleport from Enigma, matched with the lack of clipping
balance with summons who would all focus in the center whenever you teleported, to insta kill in PvP.
Thats' just lame in my book. Kinda like Tele+WW.
Clay,Blood,Fire golems couldn't kill shit. Only an Iron Golem
could but that's just cause he had Iron Maiden.
Skellies were powerful, but were useless in PVP unless matched
with Teleport for focus fire. Since they were so stupid.
Curses were the only thing usefull about a necro in a multiplayer game.
Everytime Hardcore Baal Runs would encounter summoners, everyone would leave since they lagged the shit outa the game.
Poison spells couldn't do shit unless u had 0 resist to poison...
Some will jump on this post and claim Corpse Explosion was so godly, but was it?
In a good Multiplayer game with strong chars, you wouldn''t even have time to blow
up anything before the other players were done with every monsters in the room.
One frozen orb, a Hammer, and a Lightning Jav and boom!, nothing to explode but air.
So...what's so good about the necro again?
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Yeah, but if you take two of the same skill duelers and give one of them the OP Pally, there is no reason he should lose.
It's kinda obvious if you put an uber pally in the hands of an idiot he will lose, it doesn't need to be confirmed by anyone. So this is mute as well.
++Actually the Javazon's secondary skill of Jab is more then enough to deal with any Lightning Immunes, one jab is all you need unless you hit a Lightning Immune Unique Monster. Plus with her survivability she is much more durable than a Necro.
++Actually there are thousands of builds for everything, but it doesn't mean that they are actually successful at doing it. Let me know when you see a Druid/Assassin/Barbarian solo ubers in Hardcore, I just haven't seen that yet. I don't mean they don't exist, just never seen it, maybe you would enlighten me. :cool:
True, but pure bonemancers struggle in soloing, so If you do make one, youll probably need to be rushed. The Hammerdin won't. However I do admit that they won't lag the game.
I do admit some of my points are stereotypes, (lag) but you can't dismiss that some aren't and the Necro does lack a specific area of expertise.
Not trying to be right, just arguing my point on why I don't admire the char, but as you said, to each his own opinion. I just like debating mine, and I do respect yours.
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Originally Posted by mattheo_majik
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Well if you like polls so much, why don't you make one out of this thread. It will probably equate to 99%. But before you say" well, that doesn't mean everyone!" Let me remind you that polls never encompass everyone.
Otherwise, just take my post as an exaggeration.
Seems some people misunderstood my post, let me quote myself
So I don't recall seing the phrase, he is bad in there. Not as good as someone else doesn't equate to bad. Otherwise that would be like saying every NBA player sucks at Basketball since they aren't as good as M.J.
Like I said before, if summoning mindless skeletons and kicking back while they have fun, blowing corpses in empty rooms and making walls of bone is your thing... Then by all means.
I can honestly say that the necro is the only character I ever fell asleep on while playing. Summoner is way too easy, when your summons get powerfull, you don't even have to dodge or do anything really. Just kinda walk through every room and watch the action unfold.
Kinda like watching someone else play a game...
The only time you are proactive, is when you hit a phys immune in Hell Difficulty. Then you actually require a right click to curse him.
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Originally Posted by mattheo_majik
I LOVE being a SEX TON!!!
I don't know which wave of necro haters you guys are expecting...Since 99 percent of all people on this site are all necro groupies.:facepalm:
Not that I'm a necro hater either..I thought he was a great character.
Although sometimes a pissoff lagger, he was what I considered an original concept.
The thing is that he wasn't nearly as good as other chars at doing the same shit.
Sorc MFed 1000X better than a necro.
Assassin and Pally PK/PvP 1000X better than a necro.
Javazons and Hammerdins solo Hell and bosses 100000X better than a necro. Ive heard of Hammerdins soloing Ubers, not necros..
Soooo. What's left...?
Oh yeah, game lagging, Necro really does it 1000 X better than everyone else. I do admit.
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Originally Posted by mattheo_majik
I LOVE being a SEX TON!!!
Every time I log on to Diablofans.com, all I seem to be reading about
are people crying over the fact that the barb got the comeback spot
over the game lagging Necromancer.
I just don't think he was that good. The only way he ever did anything
relevant was by spamming homing missiles (Bone Spirit) or by using the
overpowered teleport from Enigma, matched with the lack of clipping
balance with summons who would all focus in the center whenever you teleported, to insta kill in PvP.
Thats' just lame in my book. Kinda like Tele+WW.
Clay,Blood,Fire golems couldn't kill shit. Only an Iron Golem
could but that's just cause he had Iron Maiden.
Skellies were powerful, but were useless in PVP unless matched
with Teleport for focus fire. Since they were so stupid.
Curses were the only thing usefull about a necro in a multiplayer game.
Everytime Hardcore Baal Runs would encounter summoners, everyone would leave since they lagged the shit outa the game.
Poison spells couldn't do shit unless u had 0 resist to poison...
Some will jump on this post and claim Corpse Explosion was so godly, but was it?
In a good Multiplayer game with strong chars, you wouldn''t even have time to blow
up anything before the other players were done with every monsters in the room.
One frozen orb, a Hammer, and a Lightning Jav and boom!, nothing to explode but air.
So...what's so good about the necro again?
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Originally Posted by mattheo_majik
I LOVE being a SEX TON!!!