i think the new skill change and runes are BULL. they are DUMBING THE GAME DOWN just to release it?
If you really believe this I feel sorry for you.
The changes make sense and it makes leveling passed 30 more fun now.
Your second argument being "everyone gets the same things", well, GEAR is what we farm for. GEAR is the #1 driving force behind everything in the Diablo world.
Runes are just there to diversify builds and add customization. To that effect, this change works out much better and I've been waiting for this to happen.
yeah gear is #1, the only thing. have you ever PVPd in WOW? the factors that make you unique and strong are talents, gear, enchants, gems, and much more. the more things that make you unique the better. diablo3 has given everything to you, only thing now is gear? thats it? so i can go on the AH and buy legendary items and be super pro now cause i have the best stuff. having different leveled runes kind of made you want to MF in inferno for better runes than someone who isnt good enough for inferno and only gets lvl 4-5 runes in hell.
its in beta, its a weird system so far. maybe it will get better with time. im playing beta now and its something different thats for sure, i just wanted to find different levels of rune to make me superior to someone else. if my char is beefed and im farming inferno and leet runes dropped there, putting those on my skills would make me stronger, instead of automatically getting all the runes and being autopro. ive already had several friends agree with me so im not the only one. we'll see how this works i guess.
TO EACH THEIR OWN. maybe it'll change again, who knows.
Magic find doesn't nor ever did help with finding runes. MF has nothing to do with finding runes. And I rather doubt it would have had an impact on finding them in Diablo III either.
Secondly, they changed absolutely nothing about skills other than the UI, which most people reacted very negatively to, so I can see them changing it, or at least having the old UI for people that use Elective Mode.
Third, the changes to the runes (other than one thing that I'll detail in a second) were ultimately very necessary. Runes in Diablo II could be mixed with one another and hopefully, eventually, popped into an item to be made useful. In Diablo III you could put, at most, one in at a time, and supposedly they never got deleted. So you could potentially have 150 runes (30 skills X 5 runes) sitting around, PER CHARACTER, not to mention rune quality level.
I'm not overly excited that I won't have to find them any more, but it's not like they're robbing of us gameplay.
Finally, if you want to mention an actual problem with the new rune system, then say this: As is, the different runes are now available at spread out level checkpoints, but you don't get to pick that order. For instance, the rune I wanted to use for cleave isn't available until level 38... meaning I won't get to use it until like halfway through nightmare, where before I could have concievably found it a rune pretty early in normal. To me, that's the only big downside of this new system.
i played diablo 2 since the day it came out and im still playing, im saying the thrill of finding new items and things to customize your character is fun. having runes given to you already seems too easy. i guess its less to worry about but whats next? the vendors will sell legendary items for gold? so we can all be the same. pro.
They should make the runes unlockable with the use!
I mean, the more you use a skill against monster the more "skill points" you get. When you have gathered enough of theese skill points you can unlock one rune!
In this way is too much easy playing with all the skill free...
*hits things with axe*
Your axe skill has increased to 2!
*hits again*
Your axe skill has increased to 3!
MFing for runes? Were we playing the same game?
Also I imagined that having ALL the runes at start can make your character pretty damn unique with the right build and the want you like.
I don't see how you and another Barb in PVP would have exactly the same skill/rune set. That's actually close to impossible.
Looks to me like you just don't really understand the changes so far. Or the game mechanics.
Clearly you don't understand the changes. Everyone unlocks the same runes at the same levels PERIOD.
Every barb at level 30 will have the exact same skill and rune choices to pick from.
im saying everyone gets the same thing. everyone picks from the same thing. everyone will be pro. i would rather people find runes that are different level so that you need to farm inferno for high lvl runes instead of BOOM lvl 30 i get max level rune woot
Everyone loved MFing for runes you say? I did not love doing that. I think I just invalidated your entire post.
Just because you like to play a certain way doesn't mean the rest of us do. I'd rather be able to play the way I want with the skills and skill runes I want than have to go out into the world and grind for a single rune for hours and hours on end only to find every other rune in existence several times before finding mine. That, sir, does not sound like a good time to me.
But to each his own.
Also, rage post is raging.
k i guess u like basic games then. my guild all agrees that Mfing for runes/jewels/ charms in diablo2 was fun as shit, so just because u hated it doesnt mean everyone does.
i think the new skill change and runes are BULL. they are DUMBING THE GAME DOWN just to release it? thats stupid imo. first off they took out the thing that everyone loved in diablo2, MF'ing for runes ( also jewels) and ways to be unique. i loved the idea to MF like crazy to get different level runes to make you stronger and better in PVP. Now they are GIVING YOU ALL THE RUNES!? thats pretty stupid. they are taking everything out to make yourself unique. so now if im a max level barb PVPing the ONLY thing that makes me different from another max level barb is the gear? one thing changes us? everything is given to you now, no thinking required. just make the game rated 5 and up. Also not to mention they can just buy the gear from the AH now. so wheres all the customization going? maybe patch 14 they will let us buy legendary items for gold to make us all the same.
sorry for rant ><
How is making the runes unlockable and not a drop dumbing the game down?
There is enough crap to collect in the game in the form of gears, gems, recipes etc...
the more shit that has a chance to drop is more unique. what if someone never explores or MF's and wants to PVP, he has shitty runes still, good for him maybe if he loses he will want to explore more and get better runes to get stronger. i dunno im not the only one who is pissed
MFing for runes? Were we playing the same game?
Also I imagined that having ALL the runes at start can make your character pretty damn unique with the right build and the want you like.
I don't see how you and another Barb in PVP would have exactly the same skill/rune set. That's actually close to impossible.
Looks to me like you just don't really understand the changes so far. Or the game mechanics.
i understand completely, im playing beta right now. im just saying they are taking more from us. im pretty sure once games out like every PVP game ever made theres gonna be cookie cutters. and giving us all the runes is stupid, what if ive been MFING for runes and gear for a long ass time and i have max level runed skills, and some noob still has lvl 1-2 runes. thats his fault lol
i think the new skill change and runes are BULL. they are DUMBING THE GAME DOWN just to release it? thats stupid imo. first off they took out the thing that everyone loved in diablo2, MF'ing for runes ( also jewels) and ways to be unique. i loved the idea to MF like crazy to get different level runes to make you stronger and better in PVP. Now they are GIVING YOU ALL THE RUNES!? thats pretty stupid. they are taking everything out to make yourself unique. so now if im a max level barb PVPing the ONLY thing that makes me different from another max level barb is the gear? one thing changes us? everything is given to you now, no thinking required. just make the game rated 5 and up. Also not to mention they can just buy the gear from the AH now. so wheres all the customization going? maybe patch 14 they will let us buy legendary items for gold to make us all the same.
sorry for rant ><
i dont know why this game comes with a mature rating anymore, its CLEARLY being designed for people who are just learning how to read and use a computer.
i agree. beta testers should be monkeys or babies since they wanna keep making things simpler...stop taking out our ways to customize shit.
i hope this isnt true... Rune drops with different levels sounding amazing and gave you a reason to MF during inferno and other levels. why take them out...? diablo2 was fun as shit because you get to customize your gear with jewels/Runes, it made you want to play the game more and more and more untill you found the best runes/jewels.i hope this is false.
What an awesome guide!! makes me want to play my wizard again!! actually, im gonna alt tab and go on him now and try this out ! lol
EDIT- this build is very very fun and powerful! good job!
i completely agree with this post and I agree some changes are needed. BUT... i hope they don't make inferno any easier. im a barb in act3 inferno and have been in inferno for about a week now and i really like how challenging it is. i constantly change runes and strategys to get past elites and bosses and i think its very fun. i also went back and did hell act4 runs to get better gear and also did hell secret level runs. i hope they keep inferno hard and ignore all these kids crying about how hard it is because inferno is very challenging yet fun!
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TO EACH THEIR OWN. maybe it'll change again, who knows.
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sorry for rant ><
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