Well most everyone already knows we're working on runestones still, and we have some other changes that are going to shake up characters a little bit. We'll be letting you know as soon as we're sure they'll work out at all, and then we're going to be asking everyone for feedback.
Edit: First of all, let me point out, I really do appreciate Bashiok taking the time to write up this post. I'm sure he gave as much information as PR allowed him to.
That said, this is vapor-speak disguised as details. The following example is what happened in my head, and why, in my opinion, saying something as vague as "We have some other changes that are going to shake up characters a little bit" is a terrible idea..
My brain: "Oh wow, they're still working on runestones, thought they would have made a decision by now. And oh.. wait what? There's more changes they haven't announced yet? They're going to effect characters? What does that mean? They are putting in changes, plural, so that means more than one. It's going to "shake up" characters. Hm. New skill systems? New leveling/stat mechanics? Are they going back on the whole weapon damage determines spell damage idea? What could it BE!? THEY'RE NOT EVEN SURE IT WILL WORK AT ALL!!??!? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?!?!? WHY AM I HERE??? IS THERE A PURPOSE TO LIFE AND THE UNIVERSE??!?!?!?! IS THERE A GOD??????? AAAAAARRRRRRR <head explodes>"
Ok, I took a little poetic license there, but basically, here's my point: I appreciate that Bashiok is communicating with us, in principle. But what he has said is too vague. It leaves the door open for a lot of fear and rage and worst-case scenario-ism.
Official Blizzard Quote:
We'll be continuing to add players to beta as we need. We recognize that there are many people that want to be a part of helping out and we appreciate that. We just aren't able to provide any particular schedule for additions.
The ongoing, concerns on timing of the release are understandable, but in some cases are a bit overblown or overly pessimistic. We recognize that it's mostly due to anxiousness and the desire to get in and stomp demons, but as Bashiok said in his post, we'll release it when we're ready. We believe it will be worth it.
We appreciate all of the constant support and enthusiasm for Diablo III and it is something that continues to inspire us to make sure we release a game we can all be happy with and have many great adventures in.
Beyond vapor-speak.
Once again, congratulations Blizzard. Never has so many words been used to say so little.
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"Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions."
-Thomas Jefferson
Well most everyone already knows we're working on runestones still, and we have some other changes that are going to shake up characters a little bit. We'll be letting you know as soon as we're sure they'll work out at all, and then we're going to be asking everyone for feedback.
Shake up characters? (The following is an angry retort) - its probably color coded pants for every character class. You get them after you kill a monster. OH and a new wallpaper featuring this change.
Once again, congratulations Blizzard. Never has so many words been used to say so little.
@Dolaiim - you need to take over the PR department at Blizzard. I would vote for you!
Yes, yes - shameless adoration of Dolaiim. However, by far - THE MOST articulate person on this forum when it comes to poking holes through Blizzards crap statements.
Well most everyone already knows we're working on runestones still, and we have some other changes that are going to shake up characters a little bit. We'll be letting you know as soon as we're sure they'll work out at all, and then we're going to be asking everyone for feedback.
Shake up characters? (The following is an angry retort) - its probably color coded pants for every character class. You get them after you kill a monster. OH and a new wallpaper featuring this change.
Once again, congratulations Blizzard. Never has so many words been used to say so little.
@Dolaiim - you need to take over the PR department at Blizzard. I would vote for you!
Yes, yes - shameless adoration of Dolaiim. However, by far - THE MOST articulate person on this forum when it comes to poking holes through Blizzards crap statements.
I love you.
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"Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions."
-Thomas Jefferson
You know there is probably ONE guy on the Diablo 3 development team saying "nah, I don't really like this." I would bet on that, one person is throwing a wrench in the spokes so to speak. But who knows I just want the damn game already.
You know there is probably ONE guy on the Diablo 3 development team saying "nah, I don't really like this." I would bet on that, one person is throwing a wrench in the spokes so to speak. But who knows I just want the damn game already.
I think they all could be guilty of this. This is their baby and they want it supercalafragilistoespyalagosiously perfect.
A good performer is NEVER satisfied with their performance and can always improve.
However they don't run the company - they just make the product. The real wrench throwing talking monkey is everyone else at Blizz who has two cents and the authority to make it worth another 4 month delay...
I agree, being devils advocate for a moment there. Honestly the more I think about it I believe it is closer to release than we may think maybe not january or even early Febuary but no more than March. Diablo 3 seems to be taking a different path than normal. I mean first it was said "Shortest beta" than you have them saying they won't announce the release untill they are 99.99% sure it won't change, in my mind that could be closer than the normal 4 to 8 week span from announcement to release of previous games. Above all though there really is no way of knowing what the hell they are doing or planning.
You know there is probably ONE guy on the Diablo 3 development team saying "nah, I don't really like this." I would bet on that, one person is throwing a wrench in the spokes so to speak. But who knows I just want the damn game already.
I think they all could be guilty of this. This is their baby and they want it supercalafragilistoespyalagosiously perfect.
A good performer is NEVER satisfied with their performance and can always improve.
However they don't run the company - they just make the product. The real wrench throwing talking monkey is everyone else at Blizz who has two cents and the authority to make it worth another 4 month delay...
This is the problem. They're just going to keep polishing, perfecting, and redesigning until the Sun runs out of hydrogen.
A higher up executive needs to step in and say "OK, here's the release date. Get it done by then. Whatever you don't finish, it gets patched in after release. You've had more time to develop this game than most triple-A MMOs are in development. No more excuses. No more iteration. Get. It. Done." If I never had a set date to complete my work by, I'd take my sweet ass time, too.
A higher up executive needs to step in and say "OK, here's the release date. Get it done by then. Whatever you don't finish, it gets patched in after release. You've had more time to develop this game than most triple-A MMOs are in development. No more excuses. No more iteration. Get. It. Done." If I never had a set date to complete my work by, I'd take my sweet ass time, too.
Agree 100%. It's amazing how quickly, efficiently, and effectively humans can complete tasks when under pressure. But when given no deadline, it's amazing how there's never enough time to do anything. It's a strange phenomenon, but it's once I've experienced over and over again in both personal and professional life.
Edit: typo
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"Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions."
-Thomas Jefferson
Only thing I liked out of the Bashiok response was a huge wave of beta invites lol
me too. regardless of release i still want to play the beta. i know the game isnt coming out till march most likely. so a nice demo would be cool to quench for a moment my everlasting thirst for diablo!
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"once the pretty hardcore gamers we had testing inferno found it fairly difficult, we then we doubled it" -trolololol jay wilson
I would like just a response to confirm the game is going to be out between Jan to March, at this point might as well say Feb or March. I think people would feel a lot better if we just got that. But myself included feel it could be late Feb to March now with all the finishing to be done. 6+ month beta seems to be holding up at least after Bashiok's response.
Problem is that even the most pissed people will still buy the game once it's out, no matter if it comes out in 2 months or in 2 years. I'd like to have backbone enough to say that I'm not gonna buy it, but I know I will.
We will bitch, we will buy, we will forget and then we will take developers shit in the future. Rinse and repeat.
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Official Blizzard Quote:
Well most everyone already knows we're working on runestones still, and we have some other changes that are going to shake up characters a little bit. We'll be letting you know as soon as we're sure they'll work out at all, and then we're going to be asking everyone for feedback.
Edit: First of all, let me point out, I really do appreciate Bashiok taking the time to write up this post. I'm sure he gave as much information as PR allowed him to.
That said, this is vapor-speak disguised as details. The following example is what happened in my head, and why, in my opinion, saying something as vague as "We have some other changes that are going to shake up characters a little bit" is a terrible idea..
My brain: "Oh wow, they're still working on runestones, thought they would have made a decision by now. And oh.. wait what? There's more changes they haven't announced yet? They're going to effect characters? What does that mean? They are putting in changes, plural, so that means more than one. It's going to "shake up" characters. Hm. New skill systems? New leveling/stat mechanics? Are they going back on the whole weapon damage determines spell damage idea? What could it BE!? THEY'RE NOT EVEN SURE IT WILL WORK AT ALL!!??!? WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?!?!? WHY AM I HERE??? IS THERE A PURPOSE TO LIFE AND THE UNIVERSE??!?!?!?! IS THERE A GOD??????? AAAAAARRRRRRR <head explodes>"
Ok, I took a little poetic license there, but basically, here's my point: I appreciate that Bashiok is communicating with us, in principle. But what he has said is too vague. It leaves the door open for a lot of fear and rage and worst-case scenario-ism.
Official Blizzard Quote:
We'll be continuing to add players to beta as we need. We recognize that there are many people that want to be a part of helping out and we appreciate that. We just aren't able to provide any particular schedule for additions.
The ongoing, concerns on timing of the release are understandable, but in some cases are a bit overblown or overly pessimistic. We recognize that it's mostly due to anxiousness and the desire to get in and stomp demons, but as Bashiok said in his post, we'll release it when we're ready. We believe it will be worth it.
We appreciate all of the constant support and enthusiasm for Diablo III and it is something that continues to inspire us to make sure we release a game we can all be happy with and have many great adventures in.
Beyond vapor-speak.
Once again, congratulations Blizzard. Never has so many words been used to say so little.
-Thomas Jefferson
Official Blizzard Quote:
Well most everyone already knows we're working on runestones still, and we have some other changes that are going to shake up characters a little bit. We'll be letting you know as soon as we're sure they'll work out at all, and then we're going to be asking everyone for feedback.
Shake up characters? (The following is an angry retort) - its probably color coded pants for every character class. You get them after you kill a monster. OH and a new wallpaper featuring this change.
@Dolaiim - you need to take over the PR department at Blizzard. I would vote for you!
Yes, yes - shameless adoration of Dolaiim. However, by far - THE MOST articulate person on this forum when it comes to poking holes through Blizzards crap statements.
Monkalicious: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/OptimusPrime-12194/hero/79139477
I love you.
-Thomas Jefferson
I think they all could be guilty of this. This is their baby and they want it supercalafragilistoespyalagosiously perfect.
A good performer is NEVER satisfied with their performance and can always improve.
However they don't run the company - they just make the product. The real wrench throwing talking monkey is everyone else at Blizz who has two cents and the authority to make it worth another 4 month delay...
Monkalicious: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/OptimusPrime-12194/hero/79139477
This is the problem. They're just going to keep polishing, perfecting, and redesigning until the Sun runs out of hydrogen.
A higher up executive needs to step in and say "OK, here's the release date. Get it done by then. Whatever you don't finish, it gets patched in after release. You've had more time to develop this game than most triple-A MMOs are in development. No more excuses. No more iteration. Get. It. Done." If I never had a set date to complete my work by, I'd take my sweet ass time, too.
Agree 100%. It's amazing how quickly, efficiently, and effectively humans can complete tasks when under pressure. But when given no deadline, it's amazing how there's never enough time to do anything. It's a strange phenomenon, but it's once I've experienced over and over again in both personal and professional life.
Edit: typo
-Thomas Jefferson
me too. regardless of release i still want to play the beta. i know the game isnt coming out till march most likely. so a nice demo would be cool to quench for a moment my everlasting thirst for diablo!
We will bitch, we will buy, we will forget and then we will take developers shit in the future. Rinse and repeat.