That's what I said there is no proof that they don't feel bad for them. I just strongly believe that the majority of people do not feel bad for them.
true, it may come from sympathy, but i guess a strong case could be made that it is just out of edict and it being "the right thing to do" sorta thing
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Like if someone is not very nice looking, I refuse to lie and try to sound like a nice guy by saying he's hot ; I'll tell him he isn't the nicest looking guy on earth BUT I'll actually give him advices on how to improve his look and everything.
WTF?
BUT I'll actually give him advices on how to improve his look and everything. You still play with dollies too ?
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Man, come on. This is a fairly interesting discussion, please stop trying to burn each other's hair. It doesn't smell nice. There's no need for it.
I think the whole 'caring' thing has a lot to do with age and experience. Younger people aren't as attuned with the world as adults are, because they haven't had as much experience and so can't relate to others as easily. Of course, some young people go through hellish experiences that some adults never have, but thats usually not the case in Western society. Its really about the amount of experience people have, as well as their level of emotions, but the older you are the more likely you have had those experiences and felt those emotions.
But then again, some people really do just not care. But if you're at that level where you have absolutely no empathy or sympathy for anyone else, you're considered to be some kind of psychopath lol.
Yeah, it also has a lot to do with social etiquette. We are told how we should react, so we try and react that way even if we don't necessarily mean it. But I think this too is related to age. Younger kids don't really understand why they do things, just that they should be doing them. I remember when I was 12, my teacher would always get us to apologise to other students for doing them wrong. But whenever someone apologised to us, we had no idea how we were meant to respond, so we would alway say "thats okay". Lol, wtf?
kid 1: *punches kid 2*
kid 2: ooww, he punched me!
teacher: apologise! and don't do it again
kid 1: I'm sorry
kid 2: thats okay
lol, 'thats okay' doesn't make sense, but we were never really told how we should really respond.
That same teacher of mine also taught us to never say 'thank you' after your oral speech in class, because the audience is forced to be there lol, they don't have a choice. Social etiquette is confusing lol.
But when you're older, somehow your brain just clicks and you understand these things better. I still don't understand some of these things though lol, but apparently I will eventually.
Also, some people say 'sorry' way too much, but then there are people who don't say sorry often enough. Knowing when to apologise and everything else to do with social etiquette is a good skill to have. If only they teach it to us in school more.
@Melkor: Good! I too hate lying. I have a thing with 'trust', you see, and lying always makes people not trust you. So, to keep up the trust people have in me, I always tell the truth whenever I use the word 'serious'. If I'm joking, and they ask if I'm serious or not, I will stop joking and tell the truth. I try and get people to remember that.
The way I see it, people do it for the following reasons: they really do feel sorry (pretty rare), they want to fit in with the society they are currently in contact with, or they do it because they have no personal philosophy and just do what parents/peers/administration told them to do (vast majority of Americans).
I usually only say sorry when I make a mistake. Usually in sports I say sorry when I hit someone, bump someone, do something that may injure someone. (non contact sports) Or when I accidentally hit someone in the eye with my hand, I'll say sorry. If I hit someone while walking, trip someone, open a locker and slam someones face in, close my locker and slam someones hand in, open a door in someones face, or do anything that is socially wrong, I will say sorry. I rarely say "sorry about your dad dying" because personally it would be awkward if I was that person's position and wouldn't want to be told that someone feels sorry for me.
I don't know about you people, but when I say sorry I actually mean it. Do you have no heart?
I usually only say sorry when I make a mistake. Usually in sports I say sorry when I hit someone, bump someone, do something that may injure someone. (non contact sports) Or when I accidentally hit someone in the eye with my hand, I'll say sorry. If I hit someone while walking, trip someone, open a locker and slam someones face in, close my locker and slam someones hand in, open a door in someones face, or do anything that is socially wrong, I will say sorry. I rarely say "sorry about your dad dying" because personally it would be awkward if I was that person's position and wouldn't want to be told that someone feels sorry for me.
I don't know about you people, but when I say sorry I actually mean it. Do you have no heart?
I see what you’re saying. But sometimes I'll be walking looking the other way and bump in to someone and I'll say "I'm sorry" when in the back of my mind I’m thinking its just as much there fault as it is mine. I just don't want to be the A-hole that says "watch where your going", because it was in fact half my fault.
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It's always good if you say sorry to someone if you do something to them on purpose/accident, even if you don't care. I knew that and wasn't argueing that.
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I think it's possible to care; but I think maybe some things are out of our control. It's possible to feel bad about something but still know there is nothing we can do to change it. To not care at all about anything, well I guess one might as well not exist then or be a robot. my 2 cents.
I recommend you to re-read the first post of this thread, you entirely missed the point.
Actually I did. It was a relatively short post so I felt the need to add some stuff in my post that didn't necessarily relate to the "topic". But the main reason that post seemed dumb is because I did not understand was chaos was saying.
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When I was younger I always would say "stop that's annoying" or, "ohhh I'm so sorry" or, "I feel so bad for you!".
I've grown and started to think more, and I realized most of those things never DID actually annoy me
I'm not sure what thigs annoyed him. Because he says when he was younger he would say "stop that's annoyin" but doesn't explain what's annoying. I assumed from the thread topic that he meant "sorry" but didn't express it correctly. One of the downfalls from making a post in another thead the opening post of a new one, i guess.
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I never WAS sorry (whether I did something or they told me their dog died), or I never DID feel bad for that idiot who crashed.
I don't get how someone can't have sympathy for someone in a car accident. I'm not talking about someone random, but anyone close to me that was in some type of accident I would sincerely feel sorry for.
This is not an attack on you, CD, just explaining what I meant last post. Probably not very well but, meh.
I don't get how someone can't have sympathy for someone in a car accident. I'm not talking about someone random, but anyone close to me that was in some type of accident I would sincerely feel sorry for.
I'm not talking about people you know really. Though I'm not limiting to random people either. My post was just in general. Yes I will feel sorry for people I love whom are in a car accident.
What annoyed me doesn't matter by the way... it wasn't anything specific, just in general...
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"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
I'm not talking about people you know really. Though I'm not limiting to random people either. My post was just in general. Yes I will feel sorry for people I love whom are in a car accident.
What annoyed me doesn't matter by the way... it wasn't anything specific, just in general...
I see your point, though. When one of my classmate's father died, everyone was saying sorry to him and crap. I didn't know the kid or his family, so I shut my trap and didn't really give much attention to it. Of course there are the kids who never said hi to him in their lives and said "oh my god I am so sorry". That shit is annoying.
I see your point, though. When one of my classmate's father died, everyone was saying sorry to him and crap. I didn't know the kid or his family, so I shut my trap and didn't really give much attention to it. Of course there are the kids who never said hi to him in their lives and said "oh my god I am so sorry". That shit is annoying.
That was my point.
BTW, I thought swearing makes you look unintelligent and barbaric? :rolleyes:
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"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
WTF?
BUT I'll actually give him advices on how to improve his look and everything.
You still play with dollies too ?
I think the whole 'caring' thing has a lot to do with age and experience. Younger people aren't as attuned with the world as adults are, because they haven't had as much experience and so can't relate to others as easily. Of course, some young people go through hellish experiences that some adults never have, but thats usually not the case in Western society. Its really about the amount of experience people have, as well as their level of emotions, but the older you are the more likely you have had those experiences and felt those emotions.
But then again, some people really do just not care. But if you're at that level where you have absolutely no empathy or sympathy for anyone else, you're considered to be some kind of psychopath lol.
Yeah, it also has a lot to do with social etiquette. We are told how we should react, so we try and react that way even if we don't necessarily mean it. But I think this too is related to age. Younger kids don't really understand why they do things, just that they should be doing them. I remember when I was 12, my teacher would always get us to apologise to other students for doing them wrong. But whenever someone apologised to us, we had no idea how we were meant to respond, so we would alway say "thats okay". Lol, wtf?
kid 1: *punches kid 2*
kid 2: ooww, he punched me!
teacher: apologise! and don't do it again
kid 1: I'm sorry
kid 2: thats okay
lol, 'thats okay' doesn't make sense, but we were never really told how we should really respond.
That same teacher of mine also taught us to never say 'thank you' after your oral speech in class, because the audience is forced to be there lol, they don't have a choice. Social etiquette is confusing lol.
But when you're older, somehow your brain just clicks and you understand these things better. I still don't understand some of these things though lol, but apparently I will eventually.
Also, some people say 'sorry' way too much, but then there are people who don't say sorry often enough. Knowing when to apologise and everything else to do with social etiquette is a good skill to have. If only they teach it to us in school more.
@Melkor: Good! I too hate lying. I have a thing with 'trust', you see, and lying always makes people not trust you. So, to keep up the trust people have in me, I always tell the truth whenever I use the word 'serious'. If I'm joking, and they ask if I'm serious or not, I will stop joking and tell the truth. I try and get people to remember that.
I don't know about you people, but when I say sorry I actually mean it. Do you have no heart?
I see what you’re saying. But sometimes I'll be walking looking the other way and bump in to someone and I'll say "I'm sorry" when in the back of my mind I’m thinking its just as much there fault as it is mine. I just don't want to be the A-hole that says "watch where your going", because it was in fact half my fault.
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"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
What annoyed me doesn't matter by the way... it wasn't anything specific, just in general...
"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."
BTW, I thought swearing makes you look unintelligent and barbaric? :rolleyes:
"Cards and flowers on your window, your friends all plead for you to stay,
sometimes beginnings aren't so simple, sometimes goodbye's the only way."