If we're speaking of Chickens specifically, and not the metaphor of chickens and eggs. Then I'd go with apples and Jetrall
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Where are you supposed to draw the line between species anyway?
Wherever you draw the line, I suppose the first Chicken egg wouldn't of had Chicken parents
What it really comes down to in the end is classification. What is a "Chicken Egg"? Is it an egg that contains a chicken or an egg laid by a chicken? If it is the first, the egg was around before a chicken could be born from it. If it is the second, clearly the chicken had to exist first to give birth to it.
We are living illogical now, that being the current day mythos. A simple yet maybe scary fact is that we currently live in a state of a sort of conformed insanity. I know it is a little off-topic but I feel it pertains to the general discussion. I also think that an answer that might be more appropriate is Mu(the asian term for an answer that transcends the question). Ultimately meaning alternative paths of thinking might be better, opposed to dualistic right or wrong, which leaves holes in reasoning, making you believe you are right which is wrong, lol. In the end I guess that my point is believing casts a shroud of ignorance, which is an ironic/paradoxical statement to make in this context. Ohh and ignorance in many cases if not all is a good thing, at least in my opinion.
That's completely off-topic and irrelevant, not to mention your misplacement of several big words for the mere effect of it. Either be clear and relevant, or don't bother posting at all.
Anyway, I like Apple's explanation. I didn't know that they evolved form dinosaurs and all that, so it's good that I learned that now.
it would be incorrect to say chickens directly came from dinosaurs. i was trying to mean that all birds stemmed from a common ancestor that can be classified as a dinosaur, then the many species of birds emerged and the chicken would be one of them.
is it true that KFC breeds featherless chickens?
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"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
I have no idea, I eat there maybe once or twice a year, so I don't go out of my way to research the place. Come to think of it, I've never researched any place I eat at.
The egg...there were dinosaurs laying eggs way before the chicken existed...lol Otherwise, the chicken, or maybe the egg. Chickens evolved from something that we wouldn't ordinarily recognize as a chicken, but probably something that was laying eggs, and then, it layed an egg that gave us the chicken we know... So, technically, the egg, unless the egg of the chicken was changed during that last evolution, then, the chicken...
oh please... all you are saying is circular reasoning, the only answer for that is that both came at the same time, if you don't understand that is something like this: the chiken contains the egg and the egg contains the chiken so they are the same... if you are talking about the animal and the cell (the egg is a form of cell) you have to talk about evolution and creationism, but the cuestion is about the esence of caus-efect axiom... and i must agree rrock54, the answer is Mu...
and mephisto, please, stop flaming at people just because YOU think somethingis irrelevant
Anyways, I still say that any logical argument points to the egg coming first. If you base your decision on religious mythology then it is more likely the chicken.
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and mephisto, please, stop flaming at people just because YOU think somethingis irrelevant
In all fairness, Meph was completely correct about it being irrelevant. While it had a very slight relevancy, were this thread not in the spam section I probably would have deleted it as off-topic.
oh please... all you are saying is circular reasoning, the only answer for that is that both came at the same time, if you don't understand that is something like this: the chiken contains the egg and the egg contains the chiken so they are the same... if you are talking about the animal and the cell (the egg is a form of cell) you have to talk about evolution and creationism, but the cuestion is about the esence of caus-efect axiom... and i must agree rrock54, the answer is Mu...
and mephisto, please, stop flaming at people just because YOU think somethingis irrelevant
There was nothing insulting in my post, just honesty. I didn't call him anything, nor did I insult him.
This is my belief on the matter; I believe in the Christian faith, and with that, believe that things were put on this earth by God; I also believe God did not put everything that we see here. I believe evolution is correct to some extent, with truth you cannot deny that the giraffe had a short neck, and it only grew so it could reach those leaves on the top of the tree (based on fossils, this seems to be the most logical answer to me at least). Creatures like the coelacanth and the chambered mollusk have not changed, but I think they were not exposed to other species, and other habitats. A little off-topic, but I went to church today after not going for a long time. When service had ended, I really did think about many things, and one thing is, is that this world we live in seems to be beautiful everywhere you turn, and I think something intelligent had to make it.
I think the egg came first, by which a dinosaur breed eventually changed into some sort of bird-thing, and the evolution seemed to stop when the chicken we know hatched. Or perhaps the evolution is still in the process, and just too slow for our eyes....
Egg
Where are you supposed to draw the line between species anyway?
Wherever you draw the line, I suppose the first Chicken egg wouldn't of had Chicken parents
That's completely off-topic and irrelevant, not to mention your misplacement of several big words for the mere effect of it. Either be clear and relevant, or don't bother posting at all.
Anyway, I like Apple's explanation. I didn't know that they evolved form dinosaurs and all that, so it's good that I learned that now.
Rise and rise again, until lambs become lions
is it true that KFC breeds featherless chickens?
"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
I have no idea, I eat there maybe once or twice a year, so I don't go out of my way to research the place. Come to think of it, I've never researched any place I eat at.
Rise and rise again, until lambs become lions
Muahaha?
But...Jesus is dead...and if he came back that would mean he's a zombie or some other undead, and i would have to kill him again...
Rise and rise again, until lambs become lions
and mephisto, please, stop flaming at people just because YOU think somethingis irrelevant
In all fairness, Meph was completely correct about it being irrelevant. While it had a very slight relevancy, were this thread not in the spam section I probably would have deleted it as off-topic.
There was nothing insulting in my post, just honesty. I didn't call him anything, nor did I insult him.
Rise and rise again, until lambs become lions
I think the egg came first, by which a dinosaur breed eventually changed into some sort of bird-thing, and the evolution seemed to stop when the chicken we know hatched. Or perhaps the evolution is still in the process, and just too slow for our eyes....
The answer is Moo? Says the guy with the bloated cow avatar
Man made selective breeding of species accelerates evolution.. So Chickens have probably changed quite a bit since we've started farming them