^^Mate, seriously....you are completely and utterly wrong. All you have to do is look south of your borders. Look at Central and South America. Look at the percentage of those populations that are fully native or part native. Any European nation would've done it? Sure. That's why North American natives are almost gone, while in places like, say, Brazil (a former colony of my own country), you can walk in any city and see a ton of people with native heritage. You can't just write walls of text about something of which you know nothing.
They speak Portuguese in Brazil, if that doesn't scream European influence I dunno what does.
Who's ready for government shutdown in 6 hours? :rolleyes:
Who's ready for government shutdown in 6 hours? :rolleyes:
Me.
I mean, I hate the idea that America's two party system is bringing our democracy to a standstill over ideals, but I would love to see how the election plays out because of this.
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Yeah. Instead of deciding how much planned parenting should get, it's become a matter of morality and ideology. It's pretty shitty. That's not the proper forum to express whether or not abortions should be legalized.
I say a new bill should be passed that says if congress can't agree on a budget plan before the last one lapses their pay checks will be cut also. That'll put a fire under their asses.
Essentially, what I got from that is that the government places a monopoly on freedom. I don't necessarily agree with that point, but I do agree with the fact that their government, sometimes, sticks their nose in where it doesn't belong (for example, the War on Drugs).
I also believe that there should be a team that investigates the premise of any stock-market speculation strategy consisting of independent, skilled economists. If the proposed speculation fits a certain bill of safety and the risk of backlash is minimal, than it can occur. That is as much freedom as I'm willing to give these speculating pigs.
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So I just found this. Scandinavian countries make the top 5 most trusted countries when it comes to economics and, here's the kicker, they trust them more because they don't have as much wealth inequity as the United States does.
But, yeah, I just thought I'd tout Scandinavian supremacy once more. I'm glad to see Estonia in there too.
Edit: I think that, if the American Tea Party was serious about what they were preaching, they'd order their elected officials to end the drug war. Why? Because that's another way to reduce the size of government.
Or, at least, vote to take cannabis off schedule 1 which is where meth and heroin are situated. I find it kind of counter-intuitive that cocaine is on schedule 2 and yet it's even more harmful than marijuana. Marijuana is the biggest cash crop in the US, they should be jumping on this right now if the Republicans are squeezing the government's balls over deficits. $33 billion just from marijuana and that isn't taking into account taxation. I assume that that figure is just based off street prices.
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Ron Paul, the main tea party candidate for president is for the federal legalization of marijuana, cocaine, and heroin. He doesn't really care for drugs, he just thinks it should be up to the states to decide what is legal and illegal. He is against the tsa, the patriot act, torture, military intervention in foreign affairs and the privately owned federal reserve. Basically the best presidential candidate ever besides maybe Thomas Jefferson. You've got to be crazy or uninformed to vote for anyone else. If you care about where America and the rest of the world is going to end up the choice is clear. Ron Paul 2012.
The thing is although marijuana legalization is being seen as more and more popular every decade, the people aren't going to vote for Ron Paul. He will get chewed up in the primaries and, consequently, his probable presidential candidacy won't see the light of day.
The legalization movement has to be a larger populist movement for it to gain any real footing. I will say that the reason why it isn't gaining much footing is because of the common stereotype that people who support MJ legalization are just looking to get high. I don't necessarily agree, but I can see where they get that because there is a massive credibility gap there. I mean, you can tout the practical uses of cannabis all you want, but if you don't look like an outstanding individual, you're probably not going to sway my opinion. So, in order for this movement to get any further, the face of the movement has to change from the drug being used to the people getting thrown in jail because they made a choice that they think suited them.
It would be absolutely ridiculous to throw tobacco smokers in jail because they made choices similar to the ones that marijuana smokers make; they smoke. They're two different drugs and they effect the person in very different ways, but the recipient of the effects is always different; marijuana doesn't work like a skeleton key and won't get the same results out of everybody. Some people who smoke marijuana are at risk for increased anxiety, but a majority of people don't experience this. It is inherently stupid to keep it illegal because of its core effects without taking into account the medical backgrounds of the millions of people who do. It's the government telling us what's best for us and, almost always, that's not what's best because the government doesn't actually know you as a person or a human being. They just assume that what's good for some is good for many, but the reality is that nobody knows what is good for the majority, so it's better to not even approach this shit in the first place; it's the epitome of negative social engineering and arrogance.
All I want is for this movement to succeed so we can stop throwing innocent people in jail at the expense of our tax dollars. We're practically shoveling our money to this dipshit lawyers who can't wait to make their payload on common misfortunes. The government is infringing on the peace of ordinary people who choose to smoke a substance that is, arguably, less dangerous than tobacco and alcohol. I think that's injustice. I think I'll never stop talking about this as long as it's an issue.
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Honestly I think marijuana legalization is the smallest issue facing America in these troubled times. Our problem is the federal reserve, speculators, and the credit system. The Federal Reserve is a privately owned bank that has been given the right to print unlimited money and give it to whom ever they ( congress ) feel deserves it( mostly foreign banks ). Speculations should be banned outright, It is nothing but a tool for the ruling class to lord over us with unfair trade advantage. The credit system needs to be trashed since it is a form of indentured slavery and therefore unconstitutional. Everyone in the Council on Foreign Relations, The Bilderberg Group, and The Trilateral Commission need to be tried for treason. The system has been designed to fail by these crooks and when that happens, they will be there with the NAU (North American Union) and a brand new fiat currency and a brand new constitution to save us from ourselves. If there is civil unrest, they will label all the protesters domestic terrorists and have them targeted by death squads just like good ol' Osama. Isn't it great to be an American?
Honestly I think marijuana legalization is the smallest issue facing America in these troubled times. Our problem is the federal reserve, speculators, and the credit system. The Federal Reserve is a privately owned bank that has been given the right to print unlimited money and give it to whom ever they ( congress ) feel deserves it( mostly foreign banks ). Speculations should be banned outright, It is nothing but a tool for the ruling class to lord over us with unfair trade advantage. The credit system needs to be trashed since it is a form of indentured slavery and therefore unconstitutional. Everyone in the Council on Foreign Relations, The Bilderberg Group, and The Trilateral Commission need to be tried for treason. The system has been designed to fail by these crooks and when that happens, they will be there with the NAU (North American Union) and a brand new fiat currency and a brand new constitution to save us from ourselves. If there is civil unrest, they will label all the protesters domestic terrorists and have them targeted by death squads just like good ol' Osama. Isn't it great to be an American?
I think I just saw a ghost! Long time no see.
I'm not a fan of the government. It just doesn't seem to work. I just want to stay under the radar and let those guys ruin the world on their own. When the ship goes down, I'll jump ship.
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I fail to see how speculation is bad. Speculation is just a financial act based on incomplete (aka partially "speculative") information. Information is not always available. Many venture capitalists have helped great things to happen. Since speculation is risky, and calculated risk is profit, speculation is more profitable and as such a normal part of a healthy market.
When speculation is used by enormous hedge funds to trade currencies they can effectively ruin a currency and in effect rob the people who hold the currency. This kind of currency speculation has often been used for economic warfare to create revolutions in countries with unstable economies. These hedge funds usually have the problem of an uncooperative puppet dictator in said country and need to create a revolution so as to have him thrown out by the people. It is often said that we are 9 meals away from revolution, so by ruining the currency of a country they can effectively starve the people into revolt. Then when the dust clears the same individuals who ruined the economy fund the campaign of the next puppet dictator.
I do understand that the current fiat money central banking system is complex as hell and has some issues, but Fed-related claims about the NWO are generally wrong.
That page only refutes that the owners of the new world order aren't foreign which is true, They are mostly American, but you see just because they aren't foreigners doesn't mean they don't have a continuity of agenda, and since the Board of Governors and the FOMC are appointed by the President and congress you can bet they are also in on it as well. The argument that just because the money is given to the federal government means that there is no one making profit from it is absolutely absurd. Remember the bailouts? Under the freedom of info act some concerned individuals obtained the information on where all our money went in the bailout, turns out that trillions went to foreign banks.
I'm not a fan of the government. It just doesn't seem to work. I just want to stay under the radar and let those guys ruin the world on their own. When the ship goes down, I'll jump ship.
Yes indeed, the ghost has returned:P
You might find jumping ship a little hard when martial law is instated and the borders are locked down due to "terrorist activities". Just sayin. It is in our best intrest as a people to stand up for our liberties and not let fascists ruin what our forefathers fought and died for.
Honestly I think marijuana legalization is the smallest issue facing America in these troubled times.
I would agree, but it's incredibly wasteful and stupid for the government to continue this entirely hypocritical policy of constriction of individual choice.
And lobbyists aren't necessarily bad; those who lobby for the advantage of the few over the many are the ones to look out for. Minorities can be represented, sure (and I'm not talking race), but the extent to which they are represented cannot exceed the will of the majority, which, frankly, is what has happened in the U.S; you have the very rich vying for the continuation of policies that benefit them over the common American and it is fundamentally self-destructive.
I'm waiting for the day when oil becomes so expensive that it's obsolete and people finally start seriously investing in more renewable energy sources. The costs of importing oil, the strain on the American consumer, almost completely eliminated. In my opinion, it is clearly more economically beneficial to pay little for energy and have a continuous, clean source than to pay more for oil that is constantly affected by the market.
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You might find jumping ship a little hard when martial law is instated and the borders are locked down due to "terrorist activities". Just sayin. It is in our best intrest as a people to stand up for our liberties and not let fascists ruin what our forefathers fought and died for.
I don't care about some dude thats been dead for hundreds of years. Patriotism is one of the greatest tricks played on humanity.
Life's too short and too important to me to waste my time on something as futile as that. Now if you will excuse me, I'm off to draw stuffs and play GTA and jack some foo's!
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Patriotism is the ultimate form of pathos. It even surpasses your crying mother and the death of innocent children.
When I kiss the flag of the United States of America, I am actually kissing every crackpot policy that that flag has ever put forth. The reason why they make us start pledging at such a young age is so that we don't, someday, pledge allegiance to another banner as we grow older and realize that the state is not right. They make us recite them before we even understand what they mean.
"I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."
That was the original pledge of allegiance written in 1892. Now, here's the 1954 version:
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
Before, you were just pledging allegiance to an idea. Now, you're pledging allegiance to a body.
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I don't care about some dude thats been dead for hundreds of years. Patriotism is one of the greatest tricks played on humanity.
Life's too short and too important to me to waste my time on something as futile as that. Now if you will excuse me, I'm off to draw stuffs and play GTA and jack some foo's!
That "dude" died so you could live free without the oppression of tyranny. People nowadays mistake having fun and being completely care free as being free, when in reality they are just a bunch of mentally castrated cattle being led to the slaughter. Take fluoridation for instance, here we have a nuclear waste product that in studies increases infant death and bone fractures, being sold to the public as one of the greatest medical advancements of the 20th century. When in reality the owners of the nuclear plants simply didn't want to pay to have it disposed of correctly so they marketed it as the next big thing in dental health and started mass medicating the public with it. I look around in astonishment at my fellow Americans, drifting through their daily lives, unaware that WW3 is on their doorstep. The United States in recent months have been trying to provoke Pakistan into war, our military is dead set to have it out with these people. Meanwhile China is telling us that any attack on Pakistan will be considered an attack on China itself. Do I need to elaborate on the gravity of that statement? How's nuclear war sound? Does it bother you that for the last few years former NSA and CIA have been building fallout bunkers at a record rate?
Patriotism is the ultimate form of pathos. It even surpasses your crying mother and the death of innocent children.
When I kiss the flag of the United States of America, I am actually kissing every crackpot policy that that flag has ever put forth. The reason why they make us start pledging at such a young age is so that we don't, someday, pledge allegiance to another banner as we grow older and realize that the state is not right. They make us recite them before we even understand what they mean.
"I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."
That was the original pledge of allegiance written in 1892. Now, here's the 1954 version:
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
Before, you were just pledging allegiance to an idea. Now, you're pledging allegiance to a body.
Patriotism isn't a devotion to your government, it is a devotion the the welfare of your fellow citizen. Tell me that is wrong.
I have a real problem with defeatists, they never think they have any sway in the world, but I'm dead sure that if those same defeatists collectively stood up for their ideals we would have true liberty and true prosperity in this world.
Patriotism is a way to blind you from humanity and conform to the ways of the shady ass government. It's an illusion. There is no "America". It's just a piece of land like every other piece of land with people like every other person.
I'm not proud to be an American. I'm proud to be a human.
Nothing good comes from patriotism. You just get a bunch of idiots crying for lower taxes, health care and more dead people we call terrorists drug through the street that we trained ourselves 20 years prior.
Oh, and not to mention it causes nothing but blood lust and rage and hate towards those who do not salute that stupid fucking flag. Fuck America and all those stupid ass systems of hypocrisy that brain wash the innocent into strapping AK-47's to "protect" the land.
Oh ya and fuck George Washington that masonic racist ass hole slave ownin' muthafucka!
I don't want to be affiliated with the centuries of blood shed and fowl play that is a grand testimony to The United States of America.
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They TRY to make you pledge allegiance. You don't have to. But they will make you feel like you do. I have never ever said the pledge of allegiance in my entire life. Nor have I ever saluted the flag. And I've certainly been given a mouth full by everyone for it. People would try and grab me and make me salute. Wtf is that?
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Wise ElderThey speak Portuguese in Brazil, if that doesn't scream European influence I dunno what does.
Who's ready for government shutdown in 6 hours? :rolleyes:
Me.
I mean, I hate the idea that America's two party system is bringing our democracy to a standstill over ideals, but I would love to see how the election plays out because of this.
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Wise ElderI say a new bill should be passed that says if congress can't agree on a budget plan before the last one lapses their pay checks will be cut also. That'll put a fire under their asses.
I mean, they would probably actually care to give a shit.
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Just, y'know, for shits and giggles. Let's look at how well we're doing right now.
It's our trade deficit up until 2008.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXNRzI64L9Q
Watch it with an open mind.
I'll be back to discuss!
I also believe that there should be a team that investigates the premise of any stock-market speculation strategy consisting of independent, skilled economists. If the proposed speculation fits a certain bill of safety and the risk of backlash is minimal, than it can occur. That is as much freedom as I'm willing to give these speculating pigs.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
dont u wish kai ryssdal would just narrate your life with his puns?
"to the worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish."
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So I just found this. Scandinavian countries make the top 5 most trusted countries when it comes to economics and, here's the kicker, they trust them more because they don't have as much wealth inequity as the United States does.
But, yeah, I just thought I'd tout Scandinavian supremacy once more. I'm glad to see Estonia in there too.
Original story: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/04/20/trust-wealth_n_851519.html[/spoil]
Edit: I think that, if the American Tea Party was serious about what they were preaching, they'd order their elected officials to end the drug war. Why? Because that's another way to reduce the size of government.
Or, at least, vote to take cannabis off schedule 1 which is where meth and heroin are situated. I find it kind of counter-intuitive that cocaine is on schedule 2 and yet it's even more harmful than marijuana. Marijuana is the biggest cash crop in the US, they should be jumping on this right now if the Republicans are squeezing the government's balls over deficits. $33 billion just from marijuana and that isn't taking into account taxation. I assume that that figure is just based off street prices.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
The legalization movement has to be a larger populist movement for it to gain any real footing. I will say that the reason why it isn't gaining much footing is because of the common stereotype that people who support MJ legalization are just looking to get high. I don't necessarily agree, but I can see where they get that because there is a massive credibility gap there. I mean, you can tout the practical uses of cannabis all you want, but if you don't look like an outstanding individual, you're probably not going to sway my opinion. So, in order for this movement to get any further, the face of the movement has to change from the drug being used to the people getting thrown in jail because they made a choice that they think suited them.
It would be absolutely ridiculous to throw tobacco smokers in jail because they made choices similar to the ones that marijuana smokers make; they smoke. They're two different drugs and they effect the person in very different ways, but the recipient of the effects is always different; marijuana doesn't work like a skeleton key and won't get the same results out of everybody. Some people who smoke marijuana are at risk for increased anxiety, but a majority of people don't experience this. It is inherently stupid to keep it illegal because of its core effects without taking into account the medical backgrounds of the millions of people who do. It's the government telling us what's best for us and, almost always, that's not what's best because the government doesn't actually know you as a person or a human being. They just assume that what's good for some is good for many, but the reality is that nobody knows what is good for the majority, so it's better to not even approach this shit in the first place; it's the epitome of negative social engineering and arrogance.
http://www.chomsky.info/interviews/199804--.htm
All I want is for this movement to succeed so we can stop throwing innocent people in jail at the expense of our tax dollars. We're practically shoveling our money to this dipshit lawyers who can't wait to make their payload on common misfortunes. The government is infringing on the peace of ordinary people who choose to smoke a substance that is, arguably, less dangerous than tobacco and alcohol. I think that's injustice. I think I'll never stop talking about this as long as it's an issue.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
I think I just saw a ghost! Long time no see.
I'm not a fan of the government. It just doesn't seem to work. I just want to stay under the radar and let those guys ruin the world on their own. When the ship goes down, I'll jump ship.
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
That page only refutes that the owners of the new world order aren't foreign which is true, They are mostly American, but you see just because they aren't foreigners doesn't mean they don't have a continuity of agenda, and since the Board of Governors and the FOMC are appointed by the President and congress you can bet they are also in on it as well. The argument that just because the money is given to the federal government means that there is no one making profit from it is absolutely absurd. Remember the bailouts? Under the freedom of info act some concerned individuals obtained the information on where all our money went in the bailout, turns out that trillions went to foreign banks.
Yes indeed, the ghost has returned:P
You might find jumping ship a little hard when martial law is instated and the borders are locked down due to "terrorist activities". Just sayin. It is in our best intrest as a people to stand up for our liberties and not let fascists ruin what our forefathers fought and died for.
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
I would agree, but it's incredibly wasteful and stupid for the government to continue this entirely hypocritical policy of constriction of individual choice.
And lobbyists aren't necessarily bad; those who lobby for the advantage of the few over the many are the ones to look out for. Minorities can be represented, sure (and I'm not talking race), but the extent to which they are represented cannot exceed the will of the majority, which, frankly, is what has happened in the U.S; you have the very rich vying for the continuation of policies that benefit them over the common American and it is fundamentally self-destructive.
I'm waiting for the day when oil becomes so expensive that it's obsolete and people finally start seriously investing in more renewable energy sources. The costs of importing oil, the strain on the American consumer, almost completely eliminated. In my opinion, it is clearly more economically beneficial to pay little for energy and have a continuous, clean source than to pay more for oil that is constantly affected by the market.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
I don't care about some dude thats been dead for hundreds of years. Patriotism is one of the greatest tricks played on humanity.
Life's too short and too important to me to waste my time on something as futile as that. Now if you will excuse me, I'm off to draw stuffs and play GTA and jack some foo's!
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged
When I kiss the flag of the United States of America, I am actually kissing every crackpot policy that that flag has ever put forth. The reason why they make us start pledging at such a young age is so that we don't, someday, pledge allegiance to another banner as we grow older and realize that the state is not right. They make us recite them before we even understand what they mean.
"I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."
That was the original pledge of allegiance written in 1892. Now, here's the 1954 version:
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."
Before, you were just pledging allegiance to an idea. Now, you're pledging allegiance to a body.
I hate the way you cling to ignorance and pass it off as innocence
Patriotism isn't a devotion to your government, it is a devotion the the welfare of your fellow citizen. Tell me that is wrong.
I have a real problem with defeatists, they never think they have any sway in the world, but I'm dead sure that if those same defeatists collectively stood up for their ideals we would have true liberty and true prosperity in this world.
Fuck you, I'm a dragon.
I'm not proud to be an American. I'm proud to be a human.
Nothing good comes from patriotism. You just get a bunch of idiots crying for lower taxes, health care and more dead people we call terrorists drug through the street that we trained ourselves 20 years prior.
Oh, and not to mention it causes nothing but blood lust and rage and hate towards those who do not salute that stupid fucking flag. Fuck America and all those stupid ass systems of hypocrisy that brain wash the innocent into strapping AK-47's to "protect" the land.
Oh ya and fuck George Washington that masonic racist ass hole slave ownin' muthafucka!
I don't want to be affiliated with the centuries of blood shed and fowl play that is a grand testimony to The United States of America.
@Az
They TRY to make you pledge allegiance. You don't have to. But they will make you feel like you do. I have never ever said the pledge of allegiance in my entire life. Nor have I ever saluted the flag. And I've certainly been given a mouth full by everyone for it. People would try and grab me and make me salute. Wtf is that?
-Equinox
"We're like the downtown of the Diablo related internet lol"
-Winged