At some point we will grind for only the best gear. Then Act 1 and 2 will be obsolete.
It was always alright if we had to grind hell for best items to be able to somehow beat the inferno. At the beginning it would be tough but as we get inferno gear it would get easier. So flat inferno was almost absolutely fine.
The only problem with inferno was that you could get there better gear which kind of suggested it supposed to be another difficulty level and not flat mode. They should keep inferno as they now want but still give us flat inferno mode to choose from after we finish it. If this is impossible I would still rather had flat inferno as I wouldn't have to grind just one or two acts and when first expansion is released most probably only last act 5 will be grind to death if they go further down this road.
You are assuming you will never try to progress into Act III and just farm the first two acts.
Even late into D2, people had their bots farm every Act.
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Maybe I have some problem with logic here, but let me say what I believe.
So, basically, we have a flat difficulty inferno - what does it mean? this need to be (to some extent at least) beatable in Hell gear. Why? Because when you first come to inferno, you need to have a possibility to beat something to start getting inferno loot. And as the first zombie in Act 1 is the same difficulty as some demon in Act 4, both of these are beatable by Hell gear. (ok, maybe it is something on the lines of 1 champion pack = 2 hours of trying/crying/rage.. but still, beatable)
On the other hand, you have Act 4 in this non flat inferno. This means that you can really put some crazy champions packs to the Act 3 and 4, that won't be beatable without a load of Inferno gear already farmed for you character. Is this bad? I'd say, that this definitely helps to even make possible this Inferno++ difficulty. Because with flat inferno, you don't even have the possibility for it being this hard.
As for whether this is the case, or it was really a nerf to Act 1 and 2 - we'll see, when we get there. However I can't see a point in bashing this change, as it really enables us to get to something even more hard than before. And for those who don't believe blizzard can do something this hard.. Some hard modes in WoW are good example (talking about these modes in appropriate ilvl gear, not doing them 2-3 patches later on)
PS: Oh, as for the farming - I've got a feeling that it will be basically a tradeoff.. you can either kill mobs in Act1 Inferno faster, without possibility to get the finest top level gear - however, you'll get more of the bit lower level of inferno gear - and this can be even more effective, given the total randomnes of affixes,. Or you can aim for the absolute top in Act4.. but will spend much more time for that - maybe it won't even be rentable, as you'll spend too much on repairs.. We'll see
Ok first off, why do you guys keep splitting the acts into 2 groups?
Act1 < Act II < Act III < ActIV
The wording is crystal clear, and so is the logic. They nerfed entry level inferno. I knew this would happen long ago, because the idea of an end game that was impossible for a huge portion of their playerbase does not fit with the blizz dev game style. Its also a terrible, terrible, terrible, utterly failsauce idea from a business stand point as well.
The people who bought into the inferno hype of it being impossible are just gullible. It was all propaganda, and they told you exactly what you wanted to hear, and you bought it hook, line and sinker without a second though. They are probably the same people who planned on leeching, and are now QQ'ing because the MF group system is fair. They simply want to oppress other players, because they think that makes them better. Well NEWSLFASH: Its a game, a really really easy game that is based more on luck than anything else.
There are 3 real possibilities.
An old model scale of 1-20, where inferno was a flat 20.
Possibility 1:
Act1 = 17
Act II = 18
Act III = 19
ActIV = 20
Possibility 2:
Act1 = 18
Act II = 19
Act III = 20
ActIV = 21
Possibility 3: (Not likely)
Act1 = 19
Act II = 20
Act III = 21
ActIV = 22
You can fudge with the #s if you like, as long as entry into inferno is lower. Though such an exercise would be pretty futile without more information.
ActIV and maybe Act III might increase in difficulty from the previous model, but it won't be anything insane like others are suggesting. However, given that you will be able to farm inferno level gear more easily in the earlier acts this is not a problem. In fact, relatively speaking, it might not be an increase in difficulty at all.
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I can't really say I have an opinion on the matter. In theory it seemed like under the old system that Act I would have been farmed due to path of least resistance (not due to numbers, but to monster AI and skill base), so it didn't really fix the problem of farming in one area. The new system is just like D2 and I didn't really have a problem with that in the first place.
Though, I could counter Bash's examples as to what was farmed in D2 and why...
You mean what you told the bots to farm am I right?! lolz
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nerfing down act 1 + 2 results in easier acts 3 +4 since youre abled to farm really good inferno gear in act 1 or 2. the "balls-hard" difficulty for inferno goes with act 1 + 2 if you ask me.
But the alternative (and how it was before this announcement) was that Acts 3 and 4 would feel easier than Acts 1 and 2.
With zero difficulty increase in the later acts, the later stuff would feel easier as you have better gear by the time you get to it, yet no increase in difficulty to match your better gear.
It is a little worrying to hear of nerfs to the content before the game is even out though!
Why does everyone split the acts into 2 groupings?! As if Act1 = Act2 & Act3=Act4
That shit makes no sense.
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You are assuming you will never try to progress into Act III and just farm the first two acts.
Even late into D2, people had their bots farm every Act.
"Just google "diablo 3 gold guide" and magical rainbow covered demons will assault your eyes."
We do know the wording is as plain as day.....ITS NOT!
Stop drinking the kool-aid.
"Just google "diablo 3 gold guide" and magical rainbow covered demons will assault your eyes."
Ok first off, why do you guys keep splitting the acts into 2 groups?
Act1 < Act II < Act III < ActIV
The wording is crystal clear, and so is the logic. They nerfed entry level inferno. I knew this would happen long ago, because the idea of an end game that was impossible for a huge portion of their playerbase does not fit with the blizz dev game style. Its also a terrible, terrible, terrible, utterly failsauce idea from a business stand point as well.
The people who bought into the inferno hype of it being impossible are just gullible. It was all propaganda, and they told you exactly what you wanted to hear, and you bought it hook, line and sinker without a second though. They are probably the same people who planned on leeching, and are now QQ'ing because the MF group system is fair. They simply want to oppress other players, because they think that makes them better. Well NEWSLFASH: Its a game, a really really easy game that is based more on luck than anything else.
There are 3 real possibilities.
An old model scale of 1-20, where inferno was a flat 20.
Possibility 1:
Act1 = 17
Act II = 18
Act III = 19
ActIV = 20
Possibility 2:
Act1 = 18
Act II = 19
Act III = 20
ActIV = 21
Possibility 3: (Not likely)
Act1 = 19
Act II = 20
Act III = 21
ActIV = 22
You can fudge with the #s if you like, as long as entry into inferno is lower. Though such an exercise would be pretty futile without more information.
ActIV and maybe Act III might increase in difficulty from the previous model, but it won't be anything insane like others are suggesting. However, given that you will be able to farm inferno level gear more easily in the earlier acts this is not a problem. In fact, relatively speaking, it might not be an increase in difficulty at all.
"Just google "diablo 3 gold guide" and magical rainbow covered demons will assault your eyes."
You mean what you told the bots to farm am I right?! lolz
"Just google "diablo 3 gold guide" and magical rainbow covered demons will assault your eyes."
Why does everyone split the acts into 2 groupings?! As if Act1 = Act2 & Act3=Act4
That shit makes no sense.
"Just google "diablo 3 gold guide" and magical rainbow covered demons will assault your eyes."