People are yelling that they nerfed Inferno...wheres the nerf? if anything they buffed it... they never said Act1 was gonna be easier...If anything Act 1 is prolly still lvl 61 mobs, and they get HARDER in later acts... So its actually better than the flat level. I only see this as a good thing.
We made Act III and Act IV really, really brutally hard, for the most elite players only. It felt wrong to make ALL of Inferno that brutally hard.
Where's the buff? They're saying that everything was brutally hard(as Act II and Act IV is now) and that felt wrong, meaning they nerfed it.
The reason people keep saying it is a buff is that Bashiok said it felt wrong for Act 4 boss to be the same difficulty as Act 1 boss. Then he said that line people love to quote from above. We cannot know for certain which way they tweaked it.
Option 1: Everything was a 10 and they nerfed Acts 1, 2, 3 to make it a slope ending in Act 4 as a 10 now.
Option 2: Everything was a 10 and they buffed Acts 2, 3, 4 to make it a slope ending in Act 4 as a 14 now.
I don't see anything that proves which of those options has occurred, or if some other option was chosen. All we truly know is that there is a difficulty ramp from 1-4 currently. Base and end values of difficulty relative to before are completely unknown to US.
Because you are blinded by bias.
Its obviously the first option.
I never actually said which option I believe it is. I'm just pointing out that we have no way to know. I think it could be either way, probably more likely the first option but there is no way to know for sure.
Edit: What makes it obviously the first option anyway? Your interpretation of a post? Your bias?
The fact you would even consider the 2nd as a possibility in of itself is absurd.
Usually blizzard is pretty vague, but on occasions such as this the message is crystal clear.
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People are yelling that they nerfed Inferno...wheres the nerf? if anything they buffed it... they never said Act1 was gonna be easier...If anything Act 1 is prolly still lvl 61 mobs, and they get HARDER in later acts... So its actually better than the flat level. I only see this as a good thing.
We made Act III and Act IV really, really brutally hard, for the most elite players only. It felt wrong to make ALL of Inferno that brutally hard.
Where's the buff? They're saying that everything was brutally hard(as Act II and Act IV is now) and that felt wrong, meaning they nerfed it.
The reason people keep saying it is a buff is that Bashiok said it felt wrong for Act 4 boss to be the same difficulty as Act 1 boss. Then he said that line people love to quote from above. We cannot know for certain which way they tweaked it.
Option 1: Everything was a 10 and they nerfed Acts 1, 2, 3 to make it a slope ending in Act 4 as a 10 now.
Option 2: Everything was a 10 and they buffed Acts 2, 3, 4 to make it a slope ending in Act 4 as a 14 now.
I don't see anything that proves which of those options has occurred, or if some other option was chosen. All we truly know is that there is a difficulty ramp from 1-4 currently. Base and end values of difficulty relative to before are completely unknown to US.
Because you are blinded by bias.
Its obviously the first option.
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I'm dont know if I like This. I just hoped they made inferno that much more difficult than hell so you had to farm hell for 2-3 months before you could even try in inferno. I can understand the reasoning, but now we will probably get more boss runs after all.
We'll see.
Im glad you dont work at Blizz....
why the fuck should they make it so hard that you need to farm for 3 months?
it will max take a month if you farm hell to get the best gear avaible on hell...........
If this game was more like WoW with specific loot tables and fixed content, then yeah - maybe. A month or so was pretty adequate time to gear for the next tier...
For all the people who played D2 at release and into early LOD it took a good while to actually get your hands on everything you wanted. It wasn't until botting came in heavier that it was quick and easy to gear.
When WoW first came out, it took a solid month for the hardcore players just to get to 60.
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I'm dont know if I like This. I just hoped they made inferno that much more difficult than hell so you had to farm hell for 2-3 months before you could even try in inferno. I can understand the reasoning, but now we will probably get more boss runs after all.
We'll see.
Im glad you dont work at Blizz....
why the fuck should they make it so hard that you need to farm for 3 months?
it will max take a month if you farm hell to get the best gear avaible on hell...........
1 month to get the best gear?! That sounds presumptuous at best given the absurdly low drop %s in this game. I remember starting diablo2, and it took a long time to get descent gear in hell.
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You are not wrong, it was all hype, and people bought it hook line and sinker. Did you actually think they would alienate millions of players, just so the super duper hardcore could get a challenge on the last difficulty?
It is so obvious to anyone who sits down and actually thinks about it for 10 seconds, that that scenario was never going to happen. They merely told the fan base what they wanted to hear.
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One is never hurt by being given additional choices, only by taking them away. A QUADRILLION MAGIC FIND is worthless if you can't kill shit!
I think most of you got it wrong. The difficulty isn't higher than before, its just that Act1-2 is easier.
I don't know ... with this change the game will be even easier than before and I'm personally in fear the game will be too easy even with a fully hard Inferno (so u have a harder start). Well... hoping for the best.
The reason they made this change is quite easy to figure out. Under the system they were using before...Well, let's just say this - Once you got ahead of the curve and you were able to clear Act I - you would have been able to beat Inferno NP.
Under the new system - you may be able to beat Act I, but Acts II - IV might still be a challenge. You won't get ahead of the curve as easily. There was also the issue that Act I Inferno and Act IV Hell had a disconnection on the linear scale of difficulty. Now that they're closer together it's constant progression, rather than a leap.
I ignore something like that because im talking only about lvl 60 gear. when you put lvl 60 at AH you will have all items mixed, but when you sort by stats it will always give you those best items first. do you really gonna look for you items at 5th or 10 page ?
You're assuming everybody will be rich. Not everybody will be able to afford the $50 items that have the best stats. There will be poor people who purchase the items that are in the $5-10 range just because they're missing a few optimized stats. It will work out - and it always has. You're focusing on 10% of the equation and saying the other 90% doesn't exist.
Another way to look at it is that you won't have to farm hell, at least not as much, before you start inferno. Act 1 inferno, became your hell farming area sorta speak.
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One is never hurt by being given additional choices, only by taking them away. A QUADRILLION MAGIC FIND is worthless if you can't kill shit!
lulz bashiok posted itll take "weeks" even for the super dedicated veterans to beat inferno. hes effing high. i give it 4-5 days before im 60 and itll take me a week at the MOST to beat inferno even if mobs can 1 shot you. they really overexaggerate the difficulty of these games and its just going to piss off the veterans when it comes out. a game labeled "hard" is only really considered that by the masses or unskilled gamers. WoW 25 man HC raids werent even hard and you only wiped because of idiocy so this wont be anything to write home about but i am glad that inferno goes up in difficulty though
So does this mean that you're gonna prove this wrong to us all here on the forum? I'd love you to!
Haha, seriously you fan boys are still stuck on the "Inferno is serious business" line? Spit that hook out of your mouth already. It was all hype to get you pumped up about the game.
After going back and rereading it, I'm wondering what he means by this:
Official Blizzard Quote:
Longevity. We know people really want goals to work towards and challenges to overcome. We made Act III and Act IV really, really brutally hard, for the most elite players only. It felt wrong to make ALL of Inferno that brutally hard.
Does that mean they made the beginning of Inferno easier, the end harder, or both?
Previously, all of Inferno was level 61. Does that mean the beginning is, say, level 59 and the end is 61? It sounds like they lowered the difficulty of the beginning, which I don't really like. Then again, I hadn't played it on Inferno. Maybe everything being 61, even the beginning, was too impossibly hard. Who can say?
If they made the beginning 59 and the end 63 (for example) I'd be fine with that.
The first part will be easier, and the later part will either be the same or harder.
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One is never hurt by being given additional choices, only by taking them away. A QUADRILLION MAGIC FIND is worthless if you can't kill shit!
Usually blizzard is pretty vague, but on occasions such as this the message is crystal clear.
A QUADRILLION MAGIC FIND is worthless if you can't kill shit!
Its obviously the first option.
A QUADRILLION MAGIC FIND is worthless if you can't kill shit!
A QUADRILLION MAGIC FIND is worthless if you can't kill shit!
A QUADRILLION MAGIC FIND is worthless if you can't kill shit!
That was an assumption, and a bad one at that. They clearly said they made entry into inferno easier.
A QUADRILLION MAGIC FIND is worthless if you can't kill shit!
It is so obvious to anyone who sits down and actually thinks about it for 10 seconds, that that scenario was never going to happen. They merely told the fan base what they wanted to hear.
A QUADRILLION MAGIC FIND is worthless if you can't kill shit!
Another way to look at it is that you won't have to farm hell, at least not as much, before you start inferno. Act 1 inferno, became your hell farming area sorta speak.
A QUADRILLION MAGIC FIND is worthless if you can't kill shit!
A QUADRILLION MAGIC FIND is worthless if you can't kill shit!
The first part will be easier, and the later part will either be the same or harder.
A QUADRILLION MAGIC FIND is worthless if you can't kill shit!
A QUADRILLION MAGIC FIND is worthless if you can't kill shit!