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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from "Daemaro" »
    Not everyone. I know plenty that were on PvP because they had friends there. Large font doesn't make you cool.

    PvP isn't PKing.

    I'm done arguing about it. Blizzard will do what they see fit. There is no debating that.

    whoa you actually have friends now? cool. maybe you should ask them to come play D2 with you so they can protect you from all the big bad pks running around ruining every game
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from "OathofChaos" »
    Yes, but as we've already established PvP =/= PK

    yes, im talking in terms of a wow pvp server though (where u can actually go kill a low level player in a neutral zone). you can always "pvp" in arenas on a pve server.

    people play on pvp servers because they like the option of open ended world pvp.
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from "Daemaro" »



    You think they all play PvP servers because they like being killed?...

    Some play because they have friends on PvP servers, that's the only reason I stayed on a PvP server until I quit.

    THEY PLAY ON PVP SERVERS BECAUSE THEY LIKE PVP
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from "Daemaro" »
    PVP is NOT the same as PK and griefing. PKing is a sorry excuse for PvPing for people that can't handle a even challenge.

    PK and Griefing happens on WoW pvp servers all the time. The 2 million players who play on those realms seem fine with that.
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from "Daemaro" »
    Bashiok didn't just speak for himself, he said:



    If another developer didn't like this statement something would of been said or his post edited.


    It's hard to make private games with friends when you can't make friends do to games being interrupted by PKs...

    You just shot yourself in the foot. Thanks for proving this.

    3,608,091 Non-PvP total
    2,406,074 PvP total

    50/50? Try again. That's over 1 million more people on Non-PvP.

    Sure WE'RE the annoying vocal minority... :rolleyes:

    Sweet dreams about killing puppies or whatever it is PKs dream about.

    40/60, 45/55. Okay - if you want to be technical. Sure.

    WoW numbers show us that the PvP community is alive and well. Having things like PK, PvP and Griefing is good for business. We're talking about millions of potential sales based on that alone. PvP and PK will be in D3.

    I'll shoot myself in the foot when D3 comes out and I'm proven wrong.
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from "OathofChaos" »
    I think it's safe to say that the World of Warcraft game, and the Warcraft Franchise differ greatly from the Diablo franchise. Warcraft itself was designed specifically around PvP. Same with Starcraft. Diablo, however, was not.

    That's why when you were killed by another player your ear dropped? Okay sure what ever you say. I guess the hostile button never really was mean't for PvP huh????
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from "Daemaro" »
    /facepalm

    Have you even read what Bashiok has said about it?

    Screw indication, he flat out said they don't like griefers.

    Sure PKing was preventable, at great expense of the cooperative gameplay experience.



    Sack up and stop crying because PK is going to be removed. :rolleyes: Isn't it fun to try to insult eachother on our beliefs over a game?

    Some community manager says he doesn't like griefers so everyone should assume PK is out in D3? Right... I wouldn't put my money on that.

    You act like using the custom game features is some kind of huge burden on cooperative play. I got a HUGE news flash for you. It actually helps cooperative play. Why?

    Here's a two major reasons for you:

    Private games with friends
    Level restrictions keep unwanted high level players out.

    It's nice not being stuck having to join public games all the time. I can actually group with my friends and avoid unwanted hostile players? WOW HOLY CRAP WHAT A CONCEPT. WOW HUGE BURDEN HERE!!!!!!!!!!!

    LOOK: Want some real numbers?

    http://www.warcraftrealms.com/quickstats.php

    Look at all the people who play on WoW PVP realms. It's close to 50/50. Fact is: People who want PK totally out of the game are an annoying vocal minority and nothing more. Move along.

    Good night.
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from "Daemaro" »


    If something is severely disliked, it will be fixed or removed.

    That's why Blizzard makes the best games. Both sides still have options.

    PK was completely preventable in D2 (bugs/hacks excluded)
    WoW had PvE and PvP servers.

    If that past is any indication of what D3 will hold, I'd sack up and stop crying about it already.
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from "OathofChaos" »
    But your logic is flawed... rules sets in RPGs are designed to create and maintain a fair and balanced game to provide enjoyment out of everyone. PKing is neither fair nor balanced... therefore rule sets will be implicated.

    You can play WoW all day long, but you'll never convince Blizzard to allow Priest Turn Undead spells to damage the Forsaken... it's neither fair nor balanced to the entire player base.

    How is my logic flawed? RPGs are based on choices. A PK chooses to go hostile. You, player have any number of tools at your disposal to deal with the threat. Regardless of gear, level, skill.

    That's what what made D2 awesome and that's what made WoW awesome. Blizzard would have done away with any sort of "PKing" a long time ago if they didn't think it fit into there version of what an "RPG" is
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from "Daemaro" »


    Do I really need to elaborate?

    Learn to play. 6-7 people could easily kill a hammerdin.
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Can we all agree D3 needs to expand on the current D2 hostile system and improve it? The current D2 system is fine and WOULD work for D3 but I think we all agree it needs to be looked at again from both sides of the table.

    I personally FULLY support that PK still be in D3 because at the end of the day Diablo is supposed to be a role playing game. Players should be able to chose how they play the game and not be forced into rule sets based on how certain portions of the population feel. That's the true essence of what an RPG is supposed to be.
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from name="Sol Invictus" »
    That is a workaround, not a solution.

    There is no solution to the problem. People want both. You have to find a middle ground.
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from "Daemaro" »
    I'm fairly sure he's talking about a player coming along when you guys are downing a boss killing you guys and then taking the items.

    Let me ask you this, what does PKing add to the game besides things like (it's fun, thrilling, etc etc) because that's personal opinion.

    It adds the most important thing that any game can ever have:

    Skill
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    Quote from "Kalyptein" »
    Conversely I hated being ganked by xxx levels on epic mounts that couldn't be outrun (as convenient was it was when it happened when food was ready or I was eating anyway). WoW is great fun having reached max level, joining a great guild, grouping up with mates running stealth missions into horde cities, BG groups, fighting horde raids outside instances.

    In that new post, you are confusing even level PvP with high - low level sandbagging where no number of low levels can stand up VS a high level toon. Guess which one is done by most "pr0 PKERZ".

    make game
    set level restriction to 5 levels


    ...

    what's the problem?
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    posted a message on Reasons why PK should stay in D3. A detailed analysis (long)
    First of all Bishoak or whatever his name was is a carebear. Second of all in his "post" about PK he sounded like he was talking about the hostile system in D1:

    "I definitely remember running with my friends, and someone toggles it, and bam everyone is dead and your one friend is laughing. Ok, ok, good joke I guess, and then you run back and *bam*, you've toggled it to get them back. After a while everyone usually agrees to a truce because it's just a waste of time. But I also remember running with random players and losing extremely nice items because of it?"

    What the hell is he talking about? His friends going hostile for fun? Losing items? Toggling hostile randomly in a group of friends? YEAAAA OKAYYYY. This guy has no clue what-so-ever. He sounds like he never even played D2 - which the hostile system was far superior.

    I also don't know how much more cooperative you can get with a game like D2 or D3. You join a party. You go kill. I see lots of room for improvement there!!!! NOT!!!!
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